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Wow he's been great, not sure I like this call

Kind of a surprise move.

BB must like the rookies big leg better?

There must be something in BB and Ernie's diabolical minds that say we're better off going with the big leg?

Time will tell
 

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People can drop Allen from their 53. Someone will pick him up.

Source: Pats tell P Allen he's being released
The article lost me when commenting that Allen was legitimately considered for SB MVP. No he wasn't. His performance was stellar, and though they can save games, punters don't win games.

Ryan Allen almost always did his job. Bailey can out punt Allen. Let's hope he can do his job as consistently.
 

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Kind of a surprise move.

BB must like the rookies big leg better?

There must be something in BB and Ernie's diabolical minds that say we're better off going with the big leg?

Time will tell

Allen had in innate ability to drop that ball inside the 20 on any given punt, if that big leg is the trade off not sure it's a good one. Time will tell.
 

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Allen had in innate ability to drop that ball inside the 20 on any given punt, if that big leg is the trade off not sure it's a good one. Time will tell.

Agree a punter would never get the MVP. Could you imagine the odds you could get on that? He did flip the field and keep the Rams pinned which greatly assisted NE getting the W.

Bailey is not even left footed:jaw:
 

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Agree a punter would never get the MVP. Could you imagine the odds you could get on that? He did flip the field and keep the Rams pinned which greatly assisted NE getting the W.

Bailey is not even left footed:jaw:

Exactly
 

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Ryan's contract for 2019 was 1 year 1.9M plus a $31,250 foer each game played.

Bailey will cost $465,000.

Cap space has to be a major consideration.
 

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Inman requested his release as soon as Josh Gordon was reinstated. He had a 30/70 chance of making the roster and with Gordon coming back his odds dropped to zero and wants a shot to get out there early a possibly get on another team.......

Inman and Allen = Titans?? Isn't that where most Patriots go now? Or Texans?? Maybe Detriot??
 

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Ryan's contract for 2019 was 1 year 1.9M plus a $31,250 foer each game played.

Bailey will cost $465,000.

Cap space has to be a major consideration.
Cap space is the only think that makes sense at this point.
 

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Cap space is the only think that makes sense at this point.


Average career for a punter is 5 years. Allen did not look like he was on the downside but we do tend to move on early instead of late. If Allen survived a few ore years (likely) he would cost more, which we would not pay. This was the opportunity to start fresh player and save money. Prevents us from looking for a quality punter when none available.....
 

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Inman requested his release as soon as Josh Gordon was reinstated. He had a 30/70 chance of making the roster and with Gordon coming back his odds dropped to zero and wants a shot to get out there early a possibly get on another team.......

Inman and Allen = Titans?? Isn't that where most Patriots go now? Or Texans?? Maybe Detriot??
Add Miami to the list.
 

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The cuts have begun.................

WR Ryan Davis
FB Andrew Beck
 

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And they continue...........

OL Cedric Lang
OL Tyree St. Louis
 

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Latest cuts..................

OL Matez Ivey
LB Christian Sam
 

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Pats have three on IR....a couple moire may be placed on the list after Thursday's game.

Here are the Patriot's Football Weekly projection of the 53 man Roster after today's final cuts. No way to know if BB will be making more trades or not.............


Things will be fluid all weekend – as evidenced by today’s trade of Duke Dawson – but here is Patriots Unfiltered’s roster projection 4.0

Quarterback (3)
Tom Brady, Brian Hoyer, Jarrett Stidham

I’ve gone back and forth all summer on this and I’ve settled on keeping all three. Stidham played well in the preseason but Hoyer’s experience likely allows him to stick around as the top backup. He was credited for his preparation work last year and that likely will be a large part of the reason if he sticks this time around as well. This one could go either way.

Running back (5)
Sony Michel, James White, Rex Burkhead, Damien Harris, Brandon Bolden

This is one of the more straightforward positions on the roster. Harris looks like he might be able to take some carries to ease the load on Michel while Burkhead provides versatility. White’s ability out of the backfield has been a staple of the offense for years.

Fullback (1)
James Develin

Develin remains a key part of the offense with his physicality and toughness and will remain in his role as the lead blocker.

Wide receiver (6)
Julian Edelman, Josh Gordon, Demaryius Thomas, N'Keal Harry, Phillip Dorsett, Jakobi Meyers

Getting the Big 3 of Edelman, Gordon and Thomas some game action against the Giants provided a glimpse of some of the formations that Josh McDaniels might be able to bring – and overall it was positive. Dorsett appears safe as a complementary piece, and the final spot (if there is one) might come down to Meyers and Gunner Olszewski. The latter has provided a boost in the return game and has a motor that won’t quit. Both would be practice squad candidates if they don’t make it.

Tight end (2)
Matt LaCosse, Ryan Izzo, Ben Watson

LaCosse showed signs of being capable of contributing in the passing game and then injured his ankle and hasn’t played since. Izzo is more of a blocker but flashes some pass-catching ability at times. Watson hasn’t had a strong summer and is suspended for the first four games. Not sure where he fits after the suspension. Lance Kendricks is also suspended for Week 1 but could return thereafter. Stephen Anderson and Andrew Beck haven’t done anything to earn spots. Look for Bill Belichick to add here soon.

Offensive line (8)
Isaiah Wynn, Joe Thuney, Ted Karras, Shaq Mason, Marcus Cannon, Korey Cunningham, Jermaine Eluemunor, David Andrews

Belichick is obviously concerned about Andrews and the lack of depth up front based on the two trades he swung this week. The newcomers should stick to provide some insurance – and perhaps eventually push the starters. If Andrews can return he would need to be on the roster initially before being placed on injured reserve (in order to be eligible to return). Hjalte Froholdt struggled all summer and left the Giants game with an injury. He could land on IR depending on the severity. James Ferentz has also struggled but could stick as a backup center (perhaps returning after Andrews is moved to IR).

Defensive line (6)
Michael Bennett, Lawrence Guy, Adam Butler, Danny Shelton, Byron Cowart, Deatrich Wise

The defense is much tougher to predict than the offense. The front seven has the ability to feature a variety of looks and depending on how edge guys like John Simon are used that might mean trouble for Wise. Wise has been productive in his two seasons and could provide depth as a 4-3 defensive end. Cowart has outplayed him and deserves to stick around. Ufomba Kamalu, Nick Thurman and David Parry are on the outside looking in.

Edge/outside linebacker (4)
Kyle Van Noy, Jamie Collins, John Simon, Chase Winovich,

Injuries took away some of the potential completion here as Derek Rivers, Shilique Calhoun and Trent Harris all missed time with various maladies. Rivers in particular appeared to be in the mix but his status is uncertain after leaving the Titans game in Week 2.

Inside linebacker (3)
Dont’a Hightower, Ja’Whaun Bentley, Elandon Roberts

Roberts is the wild card and he could be used as a trade chip to add a piece elsewhere (tight end?). Calvin Munson could replace him, and while he doesn’t have Roberts’ ability to perform on defense he may be a better fit on special teams. Terez Hall, Christian Sam and newcomer Scooby Wright will have a tough time cracking the lineup.

Cornerback (5)
Stephon Gilmore, Jason McCourty, J.C. Jackson, Jonathan Jones, Joejuan Williams

Duke Dawson’s trade to Denver clears up a crowded cornerback picture and allows Keion Crossen to stick around as a special teamer. The rest of this depth chart is as talented and deep as the Patriots have had. Williams’ audition at safety in the final preseason game even adds some depth to the back end. Rookie Ken Webster’s athleticism could land him on the practice squad.

Safety (4)
Devin McCourty, Patrick Chung, Duron Harmon, Terrence Brooks

This group appears set with Obi Melifonwu and A.J. Howard looking like the odd men out. Brooks is solid on special teams and provides insurance at safety, giving him a leg up. Rookie Malik Gant went down with an injury in the Giants game and could land on IR.

Special teams (6)
Stephen Gostkowski, Jake Bailey, Joe Cardona, Matthew Slater, Nate Ebner, Keion Crossen

The specialists are set, as is Slater as the corps’ leader. Ebner could be on the bubble but has been productive in his role over the years. Crossen’s athleticism and strong tackling give him another spot, but Olszewski could also land here as a return specialist.
 

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I don't agree with Perillo's assumptions. He falls in love with guys, especially guys who give him a lot of info during the year.

1. I don't think Hoyer stays. He's a luxury and an expensive one at $2.5M.

2. Nate Ebner. He rally can't play safety anymore and hasn't been asked to to do it for several years.

3. David Andrews will be placed on IR. Pats can't afford to have him risk injury or death on the playing field.

4. Ben Watson is suspended for four games and cannot be on the active roster.

5. Lance Kendricks is suspended one game.

Here are guys that "I" think will replace the four who won't be here....

1. Gunner Olswewski....He will be the kick returner. No way does BB put Edelman in position to get hurt unnescessarily.

2. Dan Skipper... He's done an exzcellentjob in the preseason at LT and BB will not cut a 6'7" 330 Lb LT and chance Isaiah Wynn will hold up without a sure backup.

3. Eric Saubert. He just might be the diamond in the rough. He's bigger and faster than Izzo and from my cheap seat, blocks much better.

4. The last spot is wide open. I think Braxton Berrios is faster and has much more value than Ebner. He did play on the return teams but not as a returner. Not sure if he will be here, but..........
 
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