Game Thread: 5/15 GDT dogs @ Digging Out

[msgkings322]

An old fave, we beat the Dogs! 4 in a row...

That's Osich drinking the milk.

 

[SFGRTB]

An old fave, we beat the Dogs! 4 in a row...

That's Osich drinking the milk.

I've missed this GIF

 

[SFGRTB]

(If my post get's taken down, so be it)

Night gents

 

[msgkings322]

Game ball to Horse, 112 pitches most since August 2014

 

[msgkings322]

(If my post get's taken down, so be it)

Night gents

I'm gonna go beat something now...

 

[1phlapdown]

Gs going for 5 straight QSs mañana. C'mon Blach.

 

[calsnowskier]

I'm gonna go beat something now...

Poor dog...

 

[tzill]

Actually he owns them for his whole career

Depends upon who you talk to, some would say we put him on a peddle stool and that when facing los doyers his spincktster gets tight.

Ai yai yai....

 

[tzill]

I think their usernames probably expired after inactivity. GP's doesn't show up anymore, but there was a long story behind that, which I'm forgetting.

Even Tzill is fading!

As long as my alts are alive I shall NEVER fade....

I do miss GP tho.

 

[tzill]

The only two posters I really thought were the same was gp and tzill. They tended to carry the same "confidence" on the ESPN board.

Nah, he used to rip me pretty good sometimes. And I usually deserved it.

 

[calsnowskier]

Nah, he used to rip me pretty good sometimes. And I usually deserved it.

 

[tzill]

I keep waiting for the spell to break, but Krukow broke it down on morning radio. Pitchers get older, and lose their velocity, and some never figure out how to pitch effectively in a whole new way (Timmy). But many do. Cain is a talented veteran, who seems to have figured out how to get guys out with location and speed changes. That's all Maddux ever did (not that he's Maddux but you get the point).

So the question is...if the dude finished the year 10-9 with a 4.05 ERA....do you re-sign him? I suppose for a 2 year $20 mil type deal why not?

Well, your hypo forgets to include that we really only have two options with Cain in 2018 --
1. Pay him $7MM to go away or
2. Pay him $20MM to pitch one year.

I hope he pitches well enough to make that a difficult decision.

 

[msgkings322]

Well, your hypo forgets to include that we really only have two options with Cain in 2018 --
1. Pay him $7MM to go away or
2. Pay him $20MM to pitch one year.

I hope he pitches well enough to make that a difficult decision.

Maybe we pay him 7 then he re-signs for 2 and 22? He ends up with more $ and we get one more year of him?

 

[SFGRTB]

Maybe we pay him 7 then he re-signs for 2 and 22? He ends up with more $ and we get one more year of him?

Or, what if the Giants paid the $7M, then extended a QO, and either he comes back making a few million more or we get a draft pick out of him?

 

[tzill]

Or, what if the Giants paid the $7M, then extended a QO, and either he comes back making a few million more or we get a draft pick out of him?

I don't think you can offer the QO to a player under contract.

 

[calsnowskier]

I don't think you can offer the QO to a player under contract.

But if we paid him the 7, he would no longer be under contract.

 

[LHG]

But if we paid him the 7, he would no longer be under contract.

Now I'm curious, has a player been bought out of a contract and then given a QO?

 

[calsnowskier]

Now I'm curious, has a player been bought out of a contract and then given a QO?

I don't belive so.

 

[tzill]

But if we paid him the 7, he would no longer be under contract.

We need Marco on this. But I'd be willing to bet that once you buy someone out, you can't QO him.

 

[LHG]

We need Marco on this. But I'd be willing to bet that once you buy someone out, you can't QO him.

Marco did leave us (sort of, Stokes created a thread to reference) with some tools. I looked up COTs (http://www.baseballprospectus.com/compensation/cots/transactions-glossary) and this is what I could find:

• The exercise dates for option seasons in any contract must fall within the five-day Quiet Period after the World Series ends.
• During a five-day “Quiet Period” after the World Series ends, a free agent’s former club retains exclusive negotiating rights with him. The player may engage in general discussions with other clubs but may not discuss contract details or sign with them.
• If a player was under contract with his former club since Opening Day of the previous season, the club may make him a Qualifying Offer of a one-year contract in the amount of the average salary of the 125 highest-paid players in the game. (The amount for the 2012-13 off-season was $13.3 million. The amount increased to $14.1 million for the 2013-14 off-season and $15.3 million for the 2014-15 off-season.) A Qualifying Offer must be made during the five-day Quiet Period. A player may accept a Qualifying Offer during the “Acceptance Period,” a seven-day window after the Quiet Period. If the player accepts the offer, he returns to the club’s roster. If the player rejects the Qualifying Offer, he may negotiate with any of the 30 clubs. A former club is not entitled to compensation when a free agent signs elsewhere unless the club made the player a Qualifying Offer.