4/9 GDT Rockies vs Giants

[calsnowskier]

Milk

Nice, tall, refreshing glass of milk

 

[GiantsPackersChamps2011]

Alright my sarcasm is done for the day. From 6-2 to 9-6 with a clutch Romo. LOVE IT

 

[ColinCoby]

What a comeback!

Celebrate with Hasselhoff!

 

[calsnowskier]

Anyone know what Romo's walk up song is?

Anywhere I May Romo by Metallica?

 

[ColinCoby]

So....if we lose, I won't start a GDT for a month.

All you tomorrow buddy!

 

[SFGRTB]

 

[DK7000]

All you tomorrow buddy!

Sounds good to me!

 

[calsnowskier]

LOL

Awesome!

Who would have thought when we got him that he would end up with that much personality and be the leader that he is?

In my gut, I still see him as the small, speedy, #4 OF for the Cubs with the funny name...

 

[filosofy29]

That discussion we're having about Tim, and what does he want, and how much will he cost? Yeah, um, I don't think it will really be that hard of a baseball decision...

Fan-wise it will suck, but maybe he just lost it. Happened before, a guy starts out great and just loses it: Valenzuela, Gooden, Beckett, etc...

I think it's time to revisit your old thread:

http://http://www.sportshoopla.com/forums/san-francisco-giants/44099-lincecum-%3D-other-super-aces.html

I really think his problems are threefold after his velocity loss (take this with a grain of salt, because much to all of your surprise, I'm not an expert ):

1) lost his 95mph get out of jail free card. Since he doesn't have velocity:
-a) location becomes a necessity.....he doesn't have it.
-b) time for pitch recognition is increased to hit the fastball and see the spin on the curve and slider so it's easier to lay off
-c) scouting reports have become easier for hitters. Much like bunters will put their bat at the top of the strike zone, I think hitters (since they have more time for pitch recognition) have been taught to lay off anything sans fastball spin that is at the knees or lower near the moment of impact.

It really makes me wonder about gp's call of Timmay playing around with his weight fluctuations. For a pitcher who relies more on mechanics than probably 95% of the rest of MLB, playing around with body type/weight can sure mess around with mechanics, velocity and muscle memory/ accuracy.

I love Timmay-Jim and I hope he turns it around and fast.....but I ain't gonna lie, I am worried (even with his amazing stuff). Good news is, he doesn't even have to get his velocity back.....all he needs is location and a sea change in his head to pitch to contact. Both of those are doable.

EDIT: all of the above is my humble opinion and in no way should be construed as fact nor research.

 

[SFGRTB]

AAAAND, Fresno beats Zach Wheeler.

 

[SFAnthem]

I think it's time to revisit your old thread:

http://http://www.sportshoopla.com/forums/san-francisco-giants/44099-lincecum-%3D-other-super-aces.html

I really think his problems are threefold after his velocity loss (take this with a grain of salt, because much to all of your surprise, I'm not an expert ):

1) lost his 95mph get out of jail free card. Since he doesn't have velocity:
-a) location becomes a necessity.....he doesn't have it.
-b) time for pitch recognition is increased to hit the fastball and see the spin on the curve and slider so it's easier to lay off
-c) scouting reports have become easier for hitters. Much like bunters will put their bat at the top of the strike zone, I think hitters (since they have more time for pitch recognition) have been taught to lay off anything sans fastball spin that is at the knees or lower near the moment of impact.

It really makes me wonder about gp's call of Timmay playing around with his weight fluctuations. For a pitcher who relies more on mechanics than probably 95% of the rest of MLB, playing around with body type/weight can sure mess around with mechanics, velocity and muscle memory/ accuracy.

I love Timmay-Jim and I hope he turns it around and fast.....but I ain't gonna lie, I am worried (even with his amazing stuff). Good news is, he doesn't even have to get his velocity back.....all he needs is location and a sea change in his head to pitch to contact. Both of those are doable.

EDIT: all of the above is my humble opinion and in no way should be construed as fact nor research.

Can we add the 120+ pitch counts as a young pitcher to the list?

 

[Mays-Fan]

I think it's time to revisit your old thread:

http://http://www.sportshoopla.com/forums/san-francisco-giants/44099-lincecum-%3D-other-super-aces.html

I really think his problems are threefold after his velocity loss (take this with a grain of salt, because much to all of your surprise, I'm not an expert ):

1) lost his 95mph get out of jail free card. Since he doesn't have velocity:
-a) location becomes a necessity.....he doesn't have it.
-b) time for pitch recognition is increased to hit the fastball and see the spin on the curve and slider so it's easier to lay off
-c) scouting reports have become easier for hitters. Much like bunters will put their bat at the top of the strike zone, I think hitters (since they have more time for pitch recognition) have been taught to lay off anything sans fastball spin that is at the knees or lower near the moment of impact.

It really makes me wonder about gp's call of Timmay playing around with his weight fluctuations. For a pitcher who relies more on mechanics than probably 95% of the rest of MLB, playing around with body type/weight can sure mess around with mechanics, velocity and muscle memory/ accuracy.

I love Timmay-Jim and I hope he turns it around and fast.....but I ain't gonna lie, I am worried (even with his amazing stuff). Good news is, he doesn't even have to get his velocity back.....all he needs is location and a sea change in his head to pitch to contact. Both of those are doable.

EDIT: all of the above is my humble opinion and in no way should be construed as fact nor research.

As long as we are playing armchair pitching coach - my turn!:

I agree with all that you have said, esp pts 1a, 1b, and 1c. My speculation and my two cents here is as to the ultimate cause, and my speculation is not necessarily good news, IMHO.

Timmay relied on a very unique pitching motion in his early and CY years, one which pushed every anatomical, structural, and kinesiological limit conceivable to generate speed and spin on the ball. This was fine when he was younger and his ligaments, cartileges, muscles, and tendons could recover between starts, and his workload was considerably less per season. When he hit The Show, however, throwing 200+ innings, and then playoffs, and got a little older, suddenly the body does not completely heal all the microtears between starts anymore. The lesser degree of motion caused by the incomplete healing of the microtears results in a measurable reduction in velocity. In summary, his smaller body could not stand the strain, and IMHO, we will never see CY Timmy for an entire season again.

His situation is mindful of Ron Guidry with the Yankees in the 70's - small guy (5' 11", 161 lb), blazing fastball, great stuff who relied on a very effort-maximizing motion who had a couple fabulous seasons, but finished his career with a number of good to very good seasons, but was never great like his 1978 season (25-3, 1.74 ERA). He learned to be a pitcher, not just a thrower. He had a couple of 20 win seasons later on, but the first (1983) was followed by a bad season (10-11, 4.51 ERA), and the next (1985) was basically followed by a rapid decline to retirement.

 

[CitySushi]

I feel like Timmy's locating is his biggest problem right now. Even though he's down on his velocity, his delivery still makes him deceptive. The only problem is that generally when he misses, it's in the dirt or at a location where the batter can easily see that the ball is not going for a strike. He's not missing by a few inches here or there he's missing by good margins. His fastball is probably the biggest problem as he doesn't trust it and can't locate it for a strike when he needs to. He's going to wear his arm out this year if he heavily relies on his breaking stuff this early.