+4.4

[bengaldoug]

Dalton's preliminary grade from PFF was easily his best for the season. As soon as PFF posts their review of the game I will send it along.

 

[cincygrad]

 

[bengaldoug]

Wherever do you find this stuff???

 

[cincygrad]

Turns out the internet is full of ginger gear. I think Dalton should wear that sticker on the back of his helmet.

 

[RobBase]

Really frustrating how open the middle of the field was for you guys, but that's what happens when you have an elite WR getting all the attention from the defense. To bad Scott Linehan hasn't figured that out for us yet. Good luck the rest of the way.

 

[cincygrad]

Really frustrating how open the middle of the field was for you guys, but that's what happens when you have an elite WR getting all the attention from the defense. To bad Scott Linehan hasn't figured that out for us yet. Good luck the rest of the way.

To be fair, the field was pretty open for you guys all day as well. I'm not sure their is a bigger weapon in the league than Calvin Johnson. I think we just caught a few more breaks than you guys did and I think our pass rush was better. It sure was entertaining.

 

[Servo]

Yeah, Stafford missed some throws yesterday. Overall, we really couldn't stop Det. (especially on 3rd down) but yeah, Dalton was great. It's nice to be able to talk about how well he performed for a change instead of bitching about he's holding the offense back. Hopefully, it's not a fluke. Finally got Eiffert involved which I've been waiting all year for. As good of a playmaker as Bernard is I think Eifert has just as much talent to make big plays. Oh yeah, Jermaine fuckin Gresham. What a dumbass. I was proud of Marv for a minute as I thought he grew some guts and benched him after he cost us points (which would've sent a strong message to his team and probably made Gresham a better player in the long run). Instead, he's back on the field with big penalties and even saw him getting chippy with some Lions players later in the game. Whadda moron.

 

[flamingrey]

I wonder if Crash wants us to talk about Dalton this week or not...

 

[bengaldoug]

I'm just happy we finally had a game where our quarterback deserves praise over criticism. Hopefully not a standalone exception once the season is done, but rather the first of several.

 

[icehole3]

Stafford had about a dozen hurried sling shot throws

 

[CrashDavisSports]

That Calvin Johnson sure makes that Matthew Stafford look better than he should. If not for Johnson, Stafford's game is very pedestrian, at least it would have been yesterday.

Amazing how the good WR's tend to make their QB's look good, on other teams also, not just the Bengals.

 

[Servo]

That Calvin Johnson sure makes that Matthew Stafford look better than he should. If not for Johnson, Stafford's game is very pedestrian, at least it would have been yesterday.

Amazing how the good WR's tend to make their QB's look good, on other teams also, not just the Bengals.

actually Stafford can make every throw and while I'm not going to say he's a threat to run he moves very well in the pocket. I don't see anything about him or his game that screams pedestrian

 

[Cincyfan78]

actually Stafford can make every throw and while I'm not going to say he's a threat to run he moves very well in the pocket. I don't see anything about him or his game that screams pedestrian

He can, but I think his point being, when in trouble, it's nice to know you can throw up a 50 yard hail mary between 3 defenders and feel pretty damn sure your guy will come down with the ball more often than the other team, or at worst an incompletion.

The throw itself was a terrible decision; however, when you are in trouble, and know you have a stud like that to bail you out...it certainly helps.

 

[bengaldoug]

Pedestrian is the last word I would use to describe Stafford's game. Dalton did, however, outplay him yesterday. Stafford graded to a -0.1 yesterday, and it definitely could have been said that Megatron was the main reason for any success he had yesterday. The last td was simply a hail mary that Johnson made a great play on. What impressed me about Dalton's game yesterday was his aggressive, confident decision making. He completed throws he seemed afraid to even try before. That is why I have hope that this game is the beginning of something good.

 

[Servo]

He can, but I think his point being, when in trouble, it's nice to know you can throw up a 50 yard hail mary between 3 defenders and feel pretty damn sure your guy will come down with the ball more often than the other team, or at worst an incompletion.

The throw itself was a terrible decision; however, when you are in trouble, and know you have a stud like that to bail you out...it certainly helps.

Yeah but even to get that throw off and make a pretty much perfectly placed hail mary takes talent. I think he makes difficult throws look effortless because he's got so much arm talent. I haven't watched him nearly as much I as I have Dalton, but really I don't see many holes in his game. his biggest issue has been staying healthy and having to throw the ball 60 times a game. I'd say someone like matt schaub is pedestrian...Stafford is a stud.

 

[Servo]

Pedestrian is the last word I would use to describe Stafford's game. Dalton did, however, outplay him yesterday. Stafford graded to a -0.1 yesterday, and it definitely could have been said that Megatron was the main reason for any success he had yesterday. The last td was simply a hail mary that Johnson made a great play on. What impressed me about Dalton's game yesterday was his aggressive, confident decision making. He completed throws he seemed afraid to even try before. That is why I have hope that this game is the beginning of something good.

I'd agree that Dalton outplayed him and played at a very high level yesterday. For the first time in a long time I was happy about our QB's ability to actually win the game rather than just not losing it.

 

[CrashDavisSports]

He can, but I think his point being, when in trouble, it's nice to know you can throw up a 50 yard hail mary between 3 defenders and feel pretty damn sure your guy will come down with the ball more often than the other team, or at worst an incompletion.

The throw itself was a terrible decision; however, when you are in trouble, and know you have a stud like that to bail you out...it certainly helps.

Thank you. All I was saying. Great WR's make their QB's look better than they are at times.

Palmer can make all the throws on the field too, but how is he doing? He even has Fitzgerald.

Stafford has the arm, no doubt. He is a pretty smart player, but he made some very very questionable throws yesterday andnot just the hail mary that had a chance to be picked, even though our defense can't catch a cold more less a football. Sometimes these great armed QB's force a lot of shit into where they shouldn't be and they wind up with a lot of INT's. Overconfidence is sometimes an issue.

All I was saying is what Cincy78 said, all great WR's make their QB's look better than they actually are. Imagine how crappy Palmer would look WITHOUT Fitzgerald?

 

[DanBengalfan]

AJ Green is about as good as Fitzgerald, they are better at different things I guess. from what I understand the rest of the OL and offense is inferior to ours. Palmer wouldn't come here under any circumstances though, he wasn't just staying away from Chad, he was staying away from Mike Brown, Marvin Lewis, and the whole damn bunch of idiots in charge of this organization.

 

[flamingrey]

Thank you. All I was saying. Great WR's make their QB's look better than they are at times.

Palmer can make all the throws on the field too, but how is he doing? He even has Fitzgerald.

Stafford has the arm, no doubt. He is a pretty smart player, but he made some very very questionable throws yesterday andnot just the hail mary that had a chance to be picked, even though our defense can't catch a cold more less a football. Sometimes these great armed QB's force a lot of shit into where they shouldn't be and they wind up with a lot of INT's. Overconfidence is sometimes an issue.

All I was saying is what Cincy78 said, all great WR's make their QB's look better than they actually are. Imagine how crappy Palmer would look WITHOUT Fitzgerald?

I don't remember any bad decisions by Stafford. He had very good poise. He was clearly going through his progressions. That "hail mary" throw was late, not a bad throw.

If anything, he simply had an off game going deep. He was slightly overthrowing receivers when trying to drop balls over the top.

 

[flamingrey]

AJ Green is about as good as Fitzgerald, they are better at different things I guess. from what I understand the rest of the OL and offense is inferior to ours. Palmer wouldn't come here under any circumstances though, he wasn't just staying away from Chad, he was staying away from Mike Brown, Marvin Lewis, and the whole damn bunch of idiots in charge of this organization.

From the insider on Carson, those closest to him were pushing him to relent (yes, even his wife) after they hired Gruden, but Carson didn't want to. He'd never come under any circumstance.

Fitzgerald has been hampered with a hamstring injury (2 different ones) since the 2nd week of the season. He's almost been a decoy all season.