Game Thread: 4.30.17 Pads@Giants

[LHG]

The shortstop, 3rd baseman and 2nd baseman all made errors in today's game. Belt and Morse, what are you two thinking? Don't be selfish, this is a team sport!

 

[calsnowskier]

After today's game, I think I'm ready to write this season off. This team looks pathetic.

I am with you, but it is just April.

But it is now 4 consecutive months if this level of play.

 

[LHG]

I am with you, but it is just April.

But it is now 4 consecutive months if this level of play.

I know, but I don't think many teams turn their season around after this kind of start. Its possible, but, just guessing, not very likely.

 

[LHG]

Nice to see Panik and Hernandez show some patience against the rookie relief pitcher who HAD a 5+ ERA.

 

[LHG]

Well, at least the Giants found a capable replacement for Bumgarner (so far). Now, about the rest of this pitching staff (minus Cain and Strickland) . . .

 

[calsnowskier]

If this team does end up as a seller, do they shop Cueto AND Moore?

 

[stanford the manford]

just got home from the game... yuck

on the bright side

- blach can hit, find an everyday position for him, stat!
- i've always liked hector sanchez, so i'll take his game tying hr as a positive....

 

[stanford the manford]

If this team does end up as a seller, do they shop Cueto AND Moore?

what are their contracts? last year for cueto?

 

[calsnowskier]

what are their contracts? last year for cueto?

Moore has a 9/1 option for '18 and a 10/0.75 option for '19.

Cueto makes 21M per from '17-'21 with a 22/5 option for '22. He can opt out after this season and receive the 5M buyout.

Moores contract is very favorable, even for a 3/4 starter. Cueto is an elite starter, so there will be demand for him.

 

[Stokes1931]

Blach effort was wasted. Solid start by him.

Hitters were 1-8 with RISP, and in 12 innings, the Giants had exactly one walk. Now 1-7 in games with 1 walk or less. Terrible plate discipline.

Team slugging percentage is a gawdy .341, and the OBP is .288. Yuck!

Fitting end to a crappy month of baseball. Hope May is better. It can't get any worse.

 

[stanford the manford]

Blach effort was wasted. Solid start by him.

Hitters were 1-8 with RISP, and in 12 innings, the Giants had exactly one walk. Now 1-7 in games with 1 walk or less. Terrible plate discipline.

Team slugging percentage is a gawdy .341, and the OBP is .288. Yuck!

Fitting end to a crappy month of baseball. Hope May is better. It can't get any worse.

blach looked in total control today, and you certainly would not want to pull him for a pinch hitter....

 

[stanford the manford]

Moore has a 9/1 option for '18 and a 10/0.75 option for '19.

Cueto makes 21M per from '17-'21 with a 22/5 option for '22. He can opt out after this season and receive the 5M buyout.

Moores contract is very favorable, even for a 3/4 starter. Cueto is an elite starter, so there will be demand for him.

sorry contract newbie 9/1, 10/.075 options

 

[stanford the manford]

at the risk of sacrilege.... this is the third ball down the line that i've seen that arroyo has not been able to to handle. granted all were hot shots, but i can't help but think pablo or duffy would have gloved a few of them. is arroyo's range to the line (ie the fall down move) limited or am i over reacting......

i love a 3bagger that has that quick line lunge...

 

[Stokes1931]

at the risk of sacrilege.... this is the third ball down the line that i've seen that arroyo has not been able to to handle. granted all were hot shots, but i can't help but think pablo or duffy would have gloved a few of them. is arroyo's range to the line (ie the fall down move) limited or am i over reacting......

i love a 3bagger that has that quick line lunge...

He's a SS. It may be easier for him to play SS and Nunez to play 3rd, at least Nunez has played 3rd quite a bit. But Arroyo's D is not our problem at the moment.

 

[LHG]

There has been plenty wrong about April for the 2017 Giants. How about looking at some of the good?

Kelby Tomlinson - In the 5 games he's appeared since replacing Crawford on the roster, Tomlinson has gone 4 for 8 with a run and a stolen base. He looks like a nice player to have off the bench so far.
Buster Posey - Despite his lack of extra base hits, Posey is still sporting an .863 OPS. That is good for 7th among MLB catchers.
Brandon Belt - His offensive performance (.840 OPS) puts him in the top 10 category among 1st basemen in MLB.
Ty Blach - He looked okay as a reliever, but in two starts he has gone 12 innings, allowing only 7 hits, 3 walks and 2 runs.
Hunter Strickland - He has looked to be the star reliever so far for the Giants' bullpen. In 12 outings, he has pitched 10 innings, gave up 5 hits and 5 walks, with no runs and struck out 11 batters.
Matt Cain - Who would have guessed that Cain would pitch this well in April after his last few seasons and this spring training? In 5 starts, he sports a 1.17 WHIP, 2.35 ERA and a 7.24 K/9.
Cory Gearrin - Despite an unseemly WHIP (1.44), the relief pitcher has only allowed one earned run in 8.1 innings pitched (and allowed only 1 of 4 inherited runners to score in two appearances)

 

[LHG]

sorry contract newbie 9/1, 10/.075 options

Probably can exercise a 9 million option in 18 with a 1 million buy out and a 10 million option in 19 with a .75 million buy out?

 

[calsnowskier]

Probably can exercise a 9 million option in 18 with a 1 million buy out and a 10 million option in 19 with a .75 million buy out?

Yup.

 

[stanford the manford]

.....But Arroyo's D is not our problem at the moment

hitting and bully are the elephants in the room... but when your margin of winning is likely 1 run, little things get magnified

 

[stanford the manford]

Probably can exercise a 9 million option in 18 with a 1 million buy out and a 10 million option in 19 with a .75 million buy out?

ty

 

[msgkings322]

My feelings about April, probably shared by one or two of you....