2nd Wild Card Tracker

[stanford the manford]

Mathematically the giants are still alive in the wildcard race, practically I’m calling Time of Death on any remaining ‘19 hopes

No chance, no way, no how

 

[msgkings322]

Mathematically the giants are still alive in the wildcard race, practically I’m calling Time of Death on any remaining ‘19 hopes

No chance, no way, no how

Well sure, but this was pretty obvious even a couple weeks ago. Only chance they ever had was to keep playing .650 ball like they did in July, and with this team that isn't happening.

Still overall a fantastic season, way better than expected, with FZ showing what he can do already in finding overlooked guys. In another 2 years, like 2021 I could see us being ready to make the playoffs again.

 

[Stokes1931]

Well sure, but this was pretty obvious even a couple weeks ago. Only chance they ever had was to keep playing .650 ball like they did in July, and with this team that isn't happening.

Still overall a fantastic season, way better than expected, with FZ showing what he can do already in finding overlooked guys. In another 2 years, like 2021 I could see us being ready to make the playoffs again.

From here on out, it is about development and hopefully playing competitive games. And roster churn!

 

[stanford the manford]

Well sure, but this was pretty obvious even a couple weeks ago. Only chance they ever had was to keep playing .650 ball like they did in July, and with this team that isn't happening.

Still overall a fantastic season, way better than expected, with FZ showing what he can do already in finding overlooked guys. In another 2 years, like 2021 I could see us being ready to make the playoffs again.

i held on to a sliver of hope that the post asb streak would re-appear

 

[Stokes1931]

i held on to a sliver of hope that the post asb streak would re-appear

Not with this pitching. The hitting has been surprisingly robust post ASB (though hardly consistent). The starting pitching has been woeful, aside from some of the starts by Bum and Scrabble. DRod, Menez, Beede, Anderson, Suarez have not looked up to the challenge. Webb has had one good game, but his stuff seems like it can play at this level. Cueto may return in September.

 

[stanford the manford]

Well sure, but this was pretty obvious even a couple weeks ago. Only chance they ever had was to keep playing .650 ball like they did in July, and with this team that isn't happening.

Still overall a fantastic season, way better than expected, with FZ showing what he can do already in finding overlooked guys. In another 2 years, like 2021 I could see us being ready to make the playoffs again.

But now I’ve made it official, my thread my rules

 

[stanford the manford]

From here on out, it is about development and hopefully playing competitive games. And roster churn!

which we could have jumped start a few years ago when we had some trade value on the roster

 

[calsnowskier]

which we could have jumped start a few years ago when we had some trade value on the roster

I spelled out a plan to hurry along the rebuild with a full tear down back at the ‘17 deadline, I think it was. By that plan, we would have been competing by now or next season. By waiting, it makes the pill that much larger and harder to swallow.

 

[msgkings322]

I spelled out a plan to hurry along the rebuild with a full tear down back at the ‘17 deadline, I think it was. By that plan, we would have been competing by now or next season. By waiting, it makes the pill that much larger and harder to swallow.

We're just never going to do that. We're trying for a Cardinals type method, not Cubs/Astros. That's just the team we root for.

 

[stanford the manford]

I spelled out a plan to hurry along the rebuild with a full tear down back at the ‘17 deadline, I think it was. By that plan, we would have been competing by now or next season. By waiting, it makes the pill that much larger and harder to swallow.

not sure i mentioned a plan, but in '17 i was in favor of dumping pretty much all vets with trade value (at that time i wanted to keep panik and craw) and start the rebuild. the feedback on this forum is that couldn't be done as fans would revolt/not_show. imo it's worse now

an old boss once told me.. if you don't start you'll never finish.

it was clear the team needed younger talent: as always they stuck with the vets under contract. with season tix sales at 30k and the high seat/food&drink park prices they command as a result of the city/location/triplets, maybe that was the right decision financially. i'd argue all it did was delay our return to relevance by 3yrs