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I literally went back and read the original The Ringer story exposing Colangelo's burner accounts last night. That was some awesome NBA journalism right there. They nailed this dude and he had to quit!

 

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Was surprised they added our game to ESPN sunday.

Remember during the '16 playoffs the Cavs got stopped at customs when they landed in Toronto?

article- Cavaliers joke around while being held by customs In Canada ahead of game 3

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Is it Harden’s fault that he left Houston to compete for a title only to have Kyrie flake out and disappear last year to get his head straight? Is it his fault Kyrie is pulling his anti vaxx bull shit? Harden wanted out of a Mickey Mouse situation.


It's not that he left Houston. It's that he forced his way outta there. But wanting outta Brooklyn. Giving him a pass on that. Don't blame him for wanting outta there.
 

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It's not that he left Houston. It's that he forced his way outta there. But wanting outta Brooklyn. Giving him a pass on that. Don't blame him for wanting outta there.
Yeah but if I remember correctly he was all for going to Brooklyn. I get Kyrie is a looney and all covid shit happened so a little different circumstance there.
 

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I don’t complain about that. I think it makes a ton of sense. The Rockets built their team around a 6’7’’ center position. They kept trying to pair him with another ball handler like CP3 or Russ. It didn’t work. The Rockets were blowing it up and he was getting older. People use leverage in business all the time. This is no different.

He had just started his new contract. There are ways to leverage situations without affecting the integrity of the game. Sitting out would be better than intentionally playing like shit. So would refusing to sign the contract.
 

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Yeah but if I remember correctly he was all for going to Brooklyn. I get Kyrie is a looney and all covid shit happened so a little different circumstance there.

All I really remember about Harden's time in Houston is he's the only NBAer I'm aware of that has his number retired in a strip club.
 

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It's not that he left Houston. It's that he forced his way outta there. But wanting outta Brooklyn. Giving him a pass on that. Don't blame him for wanting outta there.
Why though? A team isn’t going to trade a player the caliber of Harden until quite frankly it’s well past time. Guys who are patient and wait their turn sit and rot and they don’t get moved until it’s too late. Don’t hate the player. Hate the game. Harden didn’t do anything that others haven’t done including the guy that he was most recently traded for.
 

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Not a chance in hell. Gotta keep that 2 seed though, home team advantage in that 2nd round vs Memphis. Those fuckers have levelled the hell up and are scary.
Yeah...the main objective now other than getting Draymond, Iggy, & Wiseman back and healthy, has got to be keeping the Grizzlies at bay. (no pun intended)...and I shudder to think, but maybe even the Jazz as well.
 

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Why though? A team isn’t going to trade a player the caliber of Harden until quite frankly it’s well past time. Guys who are patient and wait their turn sit and rot and they don’t get moved until it’s too late. Don’t hate the player. Hate the game. Harden didn’t do anything that others haven’t done including the guy that he was most recently traded for.
He had CP3 and he didn't want to play with him anymore and at the time he wasn't getting a better teammate than CP3. I get he got hurt at the wrong time bc they probably get a title if he doesn't but if CP3 stays who knows what happens.
 

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Yeah but if I remember correctly he was all for going to Brooklyn. I get Kyrie is a looney and all covid shit happened so a little different circumstance there.
It seems like what’s coming out now is that his preference was Philly. That could just be convenience. What we know for sure is that Kyrie Irving is a space cadet…with a ring already and KD has been banged up all 3 years he’s been a Net…who also has his rings. Harden looked at that situation and saw that his teammates didn’t have the same urgency he had to win a title. So he forced himself out. He’s reacting to situations he didn’t create.
 

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Why though? A team isn’t going to trade a player the caliber of Harden until quite frankly it’s well past time. Guys who are patient and wait their turn sit and rot and they don’t get moved until it’s too late. Don’t hate the player. Hate the game. Harden didn’t do anything that others haven’t done including the guy that he was most recently traded for.

I hate him for ref-baiting style already, but tanking ON THE COURT is not cool with me.

I understand the desire to see the best now that he's on your team (I've dealt with the same with Lebron and more recently Westbrook), but don't think he won't do the same to the Sixers should something happen to Embiid.
 

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He had just started his new contract. There are ways to leverage situations without affecting the integrity of the game. Sitting out would be better than intentionally playing like shit. So would refusing to sign the contract.
You can’t blame the guy for the salary cap rules. Who has cap room to sign a $40 million dollar player in the NBA that is also a contender? And are we really going to talk integrity of the game when a widely accepted rebuild plan in the NBA entails tanking?!?!? These things you’re citing aren’t Harden problems. I get it. You don’t like the guy and that’s your right but when you go and apply “reasons” you open the door to scrutinize your reasoning. Do you hate AD? Cause dude did the same thing.
 

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You really need to stop with the ring nonsense. If rings are the only way to judge players then...


Robert Horry (7 rings) > MJ (6 rings)

James Worthy (3 rings) > Dr. J (one ring)

Bill Laimbeer (2 rings) > Ewing (no rings)

Adam Morrison (one ring) > Barkley (no rings)

Darko Milicic (one ring) > Melo (no rings)

JR Smith (2 rings) > Reggie Miller (no rings)


Finals MVP's: LeBron 4 / Kobe 2

League MVP's: LeBron 4 / Kobe 1


Seasons averaging at least 25 ppg.

LeBron: 18 straight seasons (isn't that an all time record?)

Kobe: 12 total (9 in a row from '04-'05 to '12-'13)
No Chris Jent mention, who I believe has 2 rings?
 

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He had CP3 and he didn't want to play with him anymore and at the time he wasn't getting a better teammate than CP3. I get he got hurt at the wrong time bc they probably get a title if he doesn't but if CP3 stays who knows what happens.
Why was the CP3 signing the answer in Houston? Harden needs the ball in his hands to be effective. So does CP3. It was already a flawed creation. Now, if you tell me that Harden is the guy who drove the CP3 to Rockets push that’s a different story. I don’t recall it going that way. Morey was looking for an impact guy and all he could land was CP3.
 

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I hate him for ref-baiting style already, but tanking ON THE COURT is not cool with me.

I understand the desire to see the best now that he's on your team (I've dealt with the same with Lebron and more recently Westbrook), but don't think he won't do the same to the Sixers should something happen to Embiid.
Unless he’s AD and he wears purple and gold. I wasn’t here at the time but were you singing this same tune when the Lakers were actively tanking during the mid 2010s?
 

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I hate him for ref-baiting style already, but tanking ON THE COURT is not cool with me.

I understand the desire to see the best now that he's on your team (I've dealt with the same with Lebron and more recently Westbrook), but don't think he won't do the same to the Sixers should something happen to Embiid.
Just saw the edit now. And I wouldn’t blame him. Joel Embiid is why he wanted to be a Sixer.
 
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