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2014 Mock Draft Discussion Thread

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I agree. I think the weight and an average senior bowl is the only reason he is not currently an early projection. However, weight and conditioning are 2 of the easiest things to fix.

Also, regardless of weight - to get him in the 3rd round is a steal and I don't see it happening come May.

Oh I agree 3rd round he would be considered a steal. Before the Senior Bowl there was quite a bit of talk of him being possible 1st round material so getting him where you did is great value. Throw in the guy has experience playing both LG and LT so he brings a bit of versatility. Mostly my comment was questioning you getting value it was more I just don't know what kind of prospect he is going to be. I could see him coming in 1st year and dominating on the OL but I could also see him really struggling and looking a bit lost at times.
 

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Ahhh alright, yeah wasn't pushing for him as coming out to raise it.

Wasn't sure where he was ranked to begin with.

He is one of those guys that is considered a Tweaner. He doesn't quite have the size to play 4-3 DE like he did in college but he doesn't quite have the speed to play 3-4 Rush Linebacker either. So teams seem to be having trouble figuring out what he would really bring to the team. Throw in many consider his teammate Ealy a big reason he had so many one on one opportunities. Teams just didn't focus as much on Sam. Now don't get me wrong he took advantage of those opportunities and I think will be a nice rotational pass rusher to bring in. Just going to take a lot for him to ever develop into a 3-down type player.
 

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ROUND4


4.1.97: Houston Texans : Billy Turner - OT - North Dakota St.
4.2.98 : Washington Redskins : Kelcy Quarles – DT – South Carolina
4.3.99 : Atlanta Falcons : Michael Sam – DE/OLB - Missouri
4.4.100 : Tampa Bay Buccaneers : Kareem Martin – DE – North Carolina
4.5.101 : Jacksonville Jaguars : OTC until 2:00
4.6.102 : Cleveland Browns : 2:00 - 3:00
4.7.103 : Oakland Raiders : 3:00 - 4:00
4.8.104 : Minnesota Vikings : 4:00 - 5:00
4.9.105 : Buffalo Bills : 5:00 - 6:00
4.10.106 : St. Louis Rams : 6:00 - 7:00
4.11.107 : Detroit Lions : 7:00 - 8:00
4.12.108 : San Francisco 49ers : 8:00 - 9:00
4.13.109 : New York Giants : 9:00 - 10:00
4.14.110 : Jacksonville Jaguars :
4.15.111 : New York Jets :
4.16.112 : Miami Dolphins :
4.17.113 : Chicago Bears :
4.18.114 : Pittsburgh Steelers :
4.19.115 : Dallas Cowboys :
4.20.116 : Arizona Cardinals :
4.21.117 : Green Bay Packers :
4.22.118 : Philadelphia Eagles :
4.23.119 : Cincinnati Bengals :
4.24.120 : Kansas City Chiefs :
4.25.121 : Houston Texans :
4.26.122 : New Orleans Saints :
4.27.123 : Cleveland Browns :
4.28.124 : Carolina Panthers :
4.29.125 : San Francisco 49ers :
4.30.126 : New England Patriots :
4.31.127 : Denver Broncos :
4.32.128 : Seattle Seahawks :


ROUND5

5.1.129: Houston Texans :
5.2.130 : Washington Redskins :
5.3.131 : Tampa Bay Buccaneers :
5.4.132 : Jacksonville Jaguars :
5.5.133 : Cleveland Browns :
5.6.134 : Seattle Seahawks :
5.7.135 : Atlanta Falcons :
5.8.136 : Minnesota Vikings :
5.9.137 : Buffalo Bills :
5.10.138 : Jacksonville Jaguars :
5.11.139 : Tennessee Titans :
5.12.140 : New York Giants :
5.13.141 : St. Louis Rams :
5.14.142 : New York Jets :
5.15.143 : Miami Dolphins :
5.16.144 : Chicago Bears :
5.17.145 : Pittsburgh Steelers :
5.18.146 : Dallas Cowboys :
5.19.147 : Jacksonville Jaguars :
5.20.148 : Arizona Cardinals :
5.21.149 : Green Bay Packers :
5.22.150 : Philadelphia Eagles :
5.23.151 : Kansas City Chiefs :
5.24.152 : Cincinnati Bengals :
5.25.153 : Houston Texans :
5.26.154 : Indianapolis Colts :
5.27.155 : New Orleans Saints :
5.28.156 : Carolina Panthers :
5.29.157 : Philadelphia Eagles :
5.30.158 : Tennessee Titans :
5.31.159 : Denver Broncos :
5.32.160 : Seattle Seahawks :

 

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X11 did not send me a list for the Jaguars, but he's pretty good about showing up so the teams after him should stay close by or hey I know, leave a list...
 

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I'm here!!! Good stuff on the catch up... Alright let me shuffle with my targets... Be up soon
 

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Back in gear for Pittsburgh... Thanks ATL for taking over in my absence. Doesn't look like we are slotted for today, but hopefully we can get a pick in.
 

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Going to toot my own horn here lol...

Johnson in the 4th for the Jags is an excellent find IMO....
 

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Browns Sammy Watkins' brother, Jaylen.
 

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Wow 3 corners from Florida in the 1st 4 rounds. Nice pick with Watkins. He offers some nice versatility being able to play both safety and corner. Seems like these days you need players that can be hybrid types that can play wherever you need them.
 

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4.1.97 : Houston Texans : Billy Turner - OT -North Dakota St.
4.2.98 : Washington Redskins : Kelcy Quarles – DT – South Carolina
4.3.99 : Atlanta Falcons : Michael Sam – DE/OLB - Missouri
4.4.100 : Tampa Bay Buccaneers : Kareem Martin – DE – North Carolina
4.5.101 : Jacksonville Jaguars : Anthony Johnson – DT - LSU
4.6.102 : Cleveland Browns : Jaylen Watkins – CB - Florida
4.7.103 : Oakland Raiders : OTC until 4:00
4.8.104 : Minnesota Vikings : 4:00 - 5:00
4.9.105 : Buffalo Bills : 5:00 - 6:00
4.10.106 : St. Louis Rams : 6:00 - 7:00
4.11.107 : Detroit Lions : 7:00 - 8:00
4.12.108 : San Francisco 49ers : 8:00 - 9:00
4.13.109 : New York Giants : 9:00 - 10:00

 

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The Vikings will listen to offers for the next pick...
 

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Has anyone bite on minnys open to offers? I feel bad lol....

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Im not trying to trade really just listening to offers. I really did wanna trade my 2nd round pick though...
 

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Dallas and Minnesota have made a trade.

Dallas trades 4.19 & 5.18 : Minnesota trades 4.8 & 7.8
 
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