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20 years of Dan Snyder’s ownership has completely destroyed the Redskins fan base

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I am not defending Snyder in totality. I am simply pointing out that we sucked for six years prior to Snyder.

I am also claiming that the owner has little to do with team success, except in the avenue of hiring the right management. Dan Snyder does the second most important thing for the owner to do...he spends money.
 

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I am not defending Snyder in totality. I am simply pointing out that we sucked for six years prior to Snyder.

I am also claiming that the owner has little to do with team success, except in the avenue of hiring the right management. Dan Snyder does the second most important thing for the owner to do...he spends money.

He does not spend money wisely. You can't fault him for not spending but you can fault him for how it is spent.
 

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He does not spend money wisely. You can't fault him for not spending but you can fault him for how it is spent.
Bingo. This notion that an owner is there to only sign checks is not realistic, either. There are plenty of examples of owners that the players respected and would run thru walls for. Kraft and Leonsis are 2 that come to mind. Do owners of companies not have any responsibility for setting direction, expectations, and motivation? Of course they do. Owners of sport franchises are no different. There are good owners and bad owners. Unfortunately we have the epitome of a bad owner.
 

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He does not spend money wisely. You can't fault him for not spending but you can fault him for how it is spent.

I completely agree. He pays for Bruce Allen, a horrible waste of money.

As for players, how involved is he in those contracts, likely not much?
 

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I completely agree. He pays for Bruce Allen, a horrible waste of money.

As for players, how involved is he in those contracts, likely not much?

You honestly think he gives Bruce a blank check and to do whatever you want? I am positive the owners of my company decide how much of a raise and bonus I should get each year. Sure they talk to my supervisor and they even solicit coworkers to see what their impression of me and my work is.

Agree Bruce Allen is a horrible waste of money. I'll bet anything Bruce discusses signings with Dan and Dan agrees or disagrees and signs off on them.

The guy goes to almost every practice. I happen to have had dealings with this man before he became owner and I have friends that have had business dealings with him. He is not hands off.
 

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I likely am.

It is a mind-numbingly stupid stance to say if you can’t read plain English, I am not going to spell it out?

Why didn’t I go back further? Maybe because it has no bearing on the bad days that occurred from 1992-1998 before Snyder owned the team.

Nah you aren't. I've seen you get owned weekly sometimes daily on the old political threads but whatever.

What does 1992-1998 after a SB win have anything to do with 20 years of Snyder? Most teams have lulls after a good run like the Skins had.

You are a contrarian for the sake of being a contrarian. It is a tired act. I bet you are a blast at parties
 

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Be careful GK , if you are too toxic he may take his ball and go home ( and of course come back after his temper tantrum is over )

But I guess he saw we moved on from him , got new posters , and he wasn’t as important as he thought he was

I looked at these boards a few weeks ago and ALMOST posted poking fun at you for creating 90% of the threads and replying to yourself 90% of the time. Fact is there are very important posters who no longer post because of you.

Right now there is activity because the redskins are a story (for bad reasons). They have seemingly hit rock bottom (though I'm not sold that this is the bottom for them). They are arguably the worst team in the NFL in a year where a team is actively tanking.

This is a great article. It sums up frustration. People who haven't posted in awhile are coming back to say they have had enough or don't give a shit anymore.
Thump your all you want though
 

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You honestly think he gives Bruce a blank check and to do whatever you want? I am positive the owners of my company decide how much of a raise and bonus I should get each year. Sure they talk to my supervisor and they even solicit coworkers to see what their impression of me and my work is.

Agree Bruce Allen is a horrible waste of money. I'll bet anything Bruce discusses signings with Dan and Dan agrees or disagrees and signs off on them.

The guy goes to almost every practice. I happen to have had dealings with this man before he became owner and I have friends that have had business dealings with him. He is not hands off.

I am sure Dan gives the authority to negotiate contracts to the people he has paid to do so.

I am sure he discusses who to sign.

I never claimed he is hands off.
 

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Nah you aren't. I've seen you get owned weekly sometimes daily on the old political threads but whatever.

What does 1992-1998 after a SB win have anything to do with 20 years of Snyder? Most teams have lulls after a good run like the Skins had.

You are a contrarian for the sake of being a contrarian. It is a tired act. I bet you are a blast at parties

You have never seen me get owned.

The years preceding Snyder has nothing to do with Snyder. The years preceding Snyder does have everything to do with when the slide of the company began.

I am contrarian to incorrect statements. Maybe you should stop making them.
 

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I likely am.

It is a mind-numbingly stupid stance to say if you can’t read plain English, I am not going to spell it out?

Why didn’t I go back further? Maybe because it has no bearing on the bad days that occurred from 1992-1998 before Snyder owned the team.

Smart people dont usually have to announce that they’re smart, in my experience.

They just are.
 

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I looked at these boards a few weeks ago and ALMOST posted poking fun at you for creating 90% of the threads and replying to yourself 90% of the time. Fact is there are very important posters who no longer post because of you.

Right now there is activity because the redskins are a story (for bad reasons). They have seemingly hit rock bottom (though I'm not sold that this is the bottom for them). They are arguably the worst team in the NFL in a year where a team is actively tanking.

This is a great article. It sums up frustration. People who haven't posted in awhile are coming back to say they have had enough or don't give a shit anymore.
Thump your all you want though
Yeah right keep telling yourself that . It’s no different here the 5 to 7 years ago just different players and I have posted like this since I have been here
 

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Stalking you?

So you’re delusional on multiple fronts then?

You havent once hurt my feelings, mostly because its hard to get your feelings hurt by someone whose opinions you find woefully..... lacking, on pretty much every subject.

You are the one who pronounced yourself the smartest person in the room, kemosabe. Nobody else brought THAT up.

Like I said, smart people dont have to announce that they are smart.
 

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Stalking you?

So you’re delusional on multiple fronts then?

You havent once hurt my feelings, mostly because its hard to get your feelings hurt by someone whose opinions you find woefully..... lacking, on pretty much every subject.

You are the one who pronounced yourself the smartest person in the room, kemosabe. Nobody else brought THAT up.

Like I said, smart people dont have to announce that they are smart.

Yep...stalking me.

Actually it was brought up on post 8. I responded on post 15. I also said “likely.”

Do you ever get things right?
 

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I got this exactly right.

Thank you for once again proving my point.

I’m sure that if you keep telling yourself how smart you think you are, you’ll probably believe it someday soon.

Remember to continue to tune out the truth though, because lord knows you dont need THAT messing with what is clearly already a pretty fragile psyche.

Finally, if you could let me know what thread you plan on posting on next, that would save me some time. Mmmmmkay?
Thanks, cupcake!
 

gkekoa

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I got this exactly right.

Thank you for once again proving my point.

I’m sure that if you keep telling yourself how smart you think you are, you’ll probably believe it someday soon.

Remember to continue to tune out the truth though, because lord knows you dont need THAT messing with what is clearly already a pretty fragile psyche.

Finally, if you could let me know what thread you plan on posting on next, that would save me some time. Mmmmmkay?
Thanks, cupcake!

Wow. You make a claim, I totally refute your claim and provide the evidence that refutes it, and you still can’t comprehend where you are wrong.

My psyche is fine but you may want to look at your own. You are the one who stalked me. You are the one who attacked me. You are the one who is butt hurt and crying. It is quite pathetic.
 

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boys , boys boys , how about we just move on to the next subject ?
 

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Wow. You make a claim, I totally refute your claim and provide the evidence that refutes it, and you still can’t comprehend where you are wrong.

My psyche is fine but you may want to look at your own. You are the one who stalked me. You are the one who attacked me. You are the one who is butt hurt and crying. It is quite pathetic.

You did no such thing. Clearly, you have huge mental problems. You’re delusional on multiple fronts, and claim things that simply arent true.

Frankly, everybody could see that you had serious issues on the defunct political thread, but your sheer lunacy on this thread is alarming.

It would be pathetic if it werent so sad. For you, that is.

Seek help.
 

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boys , boys boys , how about we just move on to the next subject ?

Will do, skinsdad.

Just trying to perform a public service for the mentally challenged. I’ll go back to the topic at hand.
 

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You did no such thing. Clearly, you have huge mental problems. You’re delusional on multiple fronts, and claim things that simply arent true.

Frankly, everybody could see that you had serious issues on the defunct political thread, but your sheer lunacy on this thread is alarming.

It would be pathetic if it werent so sad. For you, that is.

Seek help.

Post 30- you claimed I was announcing how smart I am. Post 8 was when Skins 2021 brought it up. Post 15 was a response to him. Post 32 I said, “I didn’t announce it. He brought it up.”

Post 33- you said “You are the one who pronounced yourself the smartest person in the room, kemosabe. Nobody else brought THAT up.” I corrected you in post 34 by referring you to post 8 and post 15.


Post 35- you said, “I got this exactly right.“. I have posted where you got this exactly wrong. I have shown, even after, giving you the evidence you insist you are correct.

Post 35- you continue, “Remember to continue to tune out the truth though, because lord knows you dont need THAT messing with what is clearly already a pretty fragile psyche.“ It would appear you are tuning out he truth, just like any psycho stalker.

Post 38- you still continue to insist you are right. Maybe you should look into a mirror and find out who is mentally challenged.

Have a nice day my little stalker. I do suggest you stop now because you were just made my bitch.
 
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