Series Thread: 2) Toronto Raptors (56-26) vs. 3) Miami Heat (48-34)

[LAD]

It'll be very interesting for you then, being a Dubs fan. Even though Cavs will be favored, and rightfully so. Do you prefer the Heat or the Cavs as a potential Finals opponent?

Either really. IMO the Dubs can beat them both in a 7 game series.

 

[Mecca of the “B” Team]

I think it's getting ugly on Bosh's end. They reported that now the players union is involved and wants to talk to the Heat about Bosh's situation.

I get that Bosh wants to play...don't blame him for that one little bit. But dude needs to drop it and understand that the Heat want him to play, but they care about his health more. They aren't stupid. They know that with him, they are a much better team and might actually have a chance to get out of the East. They'd just prefer that he not die on the court trying to do it.

Exactly.

Did you know that Spoelstra was on the court when Gathers died?

He was the opposing Team's Pg.

I'm sure he doesn't ever want to see anything like that happen again.

Erik Spoelstra witnessed Hank Gathers' horrific collapse, would he risk playing Chris Bosh?

 

[Mecca of the “B” Team]

They just announced Bosh WILL NOT PLAY AGAIN THIS YEAR....


The players association tried and failed.

Good for the Heat.

 

[trojanfan12]

Did you know that Spoelstra was on the court when Gathers died?

I did know that, but had forgotten all about it until you just reminded me.

 

[Mecca of the “B” Team]

I did know that, but had forgotten all about it until you just reminded me.

I was in High School when that happened.

Living in Cali, I'm sure you remember what a big story that was.

Doesn't feel like 26 years....Crazy.

On a unrelated note, I remember being so happy when the Clippers got Bo Kimble...


Yeah.....that didn't go well

 

[trojanfan12]

I was in High School when that happened.

Living in Cali, I'm sure you remember what a big story that was.

Doesn't feel like 26 years....Crazy.

On a unrelated note, I remember being so happy when the Clippers got Bo Kimble...


Yeah.....that didn't go well

I was in my 20's and followed that LMU team. They were so much fun to watch.

 

[bksballer89]

I was in my 20's and followed that LMU team. They were so much fun to watch.

I was 3 months old.....

 

[trojanfan12]

I was 3 months old.....

Fuckin' millenial.

 

[LAD]

I was 3 months old.....

No way! Are you joking?

 

[bksballer89]

No way! Are you joking?

No

 

[LAD]

No

Hahaha never figured you for a young buck.

 

[bksballer89]

Hahaha never figured you for a young buck.

I'm an old man

 

[LAD]

I'm an old man

If you mean in terms of having an "old soul" then yes I certainly agree.

 

[Mecca of the “B” Team]

I was 3 months old.....

Damn, you make me feel like this...

Lob City!

 

[Heatles84]

Fuckin' millenial.

I was 5, come at me bro!

 

[trojanfan12]

Damn, you make me feel like this...

Lob City!

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Is that Shelly Sterling?

 

[trojanfan12]

I was 5, come at me bro!

 

[TurnUpTheHeat]

The Heat's stated goal to "return Chris to playing basketball as soon as possible" comes with some potentially messy implications. With the caveat that I am not a doctor, nor am I privy to Bosh's medical records (nor should I be), there are some procedural matters that will come into play.

If Bosh's condition is deemed to be career-ending, Miami would be able to waive Bosh and apply for a medical exception that would wipe his salary -- $23.7 million next season -- from its books. The medical determination would have to be made by a physician jointly selected by the league and the union, according to the collective bargaining agreement.

There is, however, a waiting period before such a salary exclusion can be granted. If the player appeared in 10 or more games in a season -- which Bosh did this season -- the team cannot apply for the exception until the one-year anniversary of his last game. In this case, that would be Feb. 9, 2017.

If Bosh were to return at any point prior to that, the clock would reset on that waiting period. In any event, there is no opportunity for salary cap relief regarding Bosh's contract this summer.

It should be noted that the provision was put in place to protect players from being forced to retire against their will, just so the team could gain some cap relief.

Now that Bosh has been ruled out for the rest of the postseason, the battle over his future -- if there is going to be one -- would take place during the offseason and into next season.

That's when things could get messy.

As indicated by the Heat's refusal to allow him to return to the floor, the organization has made it clear that its concern is with the player's health as opposed to any benefit it would enjoy by bringing him back. That's good. Bosh is not just a basketball player, but a husband, father and person. No game is more important than your life, even if that game is your passion and profession.

But let's not be naive. There's a liability issue here, too -- plus the idea that holding Bosh out preserves the Heat's window to gain cap relief in the unfortunate event that his condition is determined to be career-ending. If Bosh were to return now, the Heat would have fewer options to replace him.

In the end, that's a scenario that nobody wants to see. We all want to see Bosh playing basketball again, but only if his health -- and life -- come first.




This should clarify some of the discussion we were having.

 

[trojanfan12]

The Heat's stated goal to "return Chris to playing basketball as soon as possible" comes with some potentially messy implications. With the caveat that I am not a doctor, nor am I privy to Bosh's medical records (nor should I be), there are some procedural matters that will come into play.

If Bosh's condition is deemed to be career-ending, Miami would be able to waive Bosh and apply for a medical exception that would wipe his salary -- $23.7 million next season -- from its books. The medical determination would have to be made by a physician jointly selected by the league and the union, according to the collective bargaining agreement.

There is, however, a waiting period before such a salary exclusion can be granted. If the player appeared in 10 or more games in a season -- which Bosh did this season -- the team cannot apply for the exception until the one-year anniversary of his last game. In this case, that would be Feb. 9, 2017.

If Bosh were to return at any point prior to that, the clock would reset on that waiting period. In any event, there is no opportunity for salary cap relief regarding Bosh's contract this summer.

It should be noted that the provision was put in place to protect players from being forced to retire against their will, just so the team could gain some cap relief.

Now that Bosh has been ruled out for the rest of the postseason, the battle over his future -- if there is going to be one -- would take place during the offseason and into next season.

That's when things could get messy.

As indicated by the Heat's refusal to allow him to return to the floor, the organization has made it clear that its concern is with the player's health as opposed to any benefit it would enjoy by bringing him back. That's good. Bosh is not just a basketball player, but a husband, father and person. No game is more important than your life, even if that game is your passion and profession.

But let's not be naive. There's a liability issue here, too -- plus the idea that holding Bosh out preserves the Heat's window to gain cap relief in the unfortunate event that his condition is determined to be career-ending. If Bosh were to return now, the Heat would have fewer options to replace him.

In the end, that's a scenario that nobody wants to see. We all want to see Bosh playing basketball again, but only if his health -- and life -- come first.




This should clarify some of the discussion we were having.

Makes sense and answers a lot of questions. Thanks for posting it.

 

[gordontrue]

I was 5, come at me bro!

I was 6!