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1st place Sox romp M's, Yanks and O's win...and how good is David Ortiz?

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zig made his own little site
 

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This is a fair point, and it's something he's going to have to come to grips with when he retires.

But, in his favor? Those 2 guys are universally detested...Ortiz? Extremely popular player...and to voters? That does matter for whatever reason...

We'll see.

If the #3 all time in pitcher WAR and a 7 time Cy Young winner and the #2 all time in hitter WAR, 7 time MVP and the all time HR leader can't get in because of their associations, well, I have a hard time seeing a DH with the same issues getting in, no matter how warm and fuzzy he is.
 

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That is way long term.

Better hope he can maintain that level play in years 5-8 of the contract.

It's Marc Andre Fleury all over again

Goalies are only as good as their defenseman.

I'd invest more money in quality d-men .... and sign an average goalie.
 

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We'll see.

If the #3 all time in pitcher WAR and a 7 time Cy Young winner and the #2 all time in hitter WAR, 7 time MVP and the all time HR leader can't get in because of their associations, well, I have a hard time seeing a DH with the same issues getting in, no matter how warm and fuzzy he is.

Calling Ortiz's "issues" the "same" as Bonds and Clemens? A bit laughable...


That's like saying Plaxico and Hernandez have the "same" issues because both illegally discharged a firearm...
 

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again? lol

got a link? id love to see it:laugh3:


it's the same site as before, pretty nice actually, it gets the job done, it's going to take a little while for people to realize it though



i liked the two separate daily threads, i didn't check in much over here but when i did it looked peaceful, and same with robustable, not day long childish arguments

Uno hardly ever posted, and when he did he wasn't bad at all
 

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It's Marc Andre Fleury all over again

Goalies are only as good as their defenseman.

I'd invest more money in quality d-men .... and sign an average goalie.

Fortunately the B's already have the best defensive blue liner in the league...
 

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this

and add to that ortiz was never tied to scandals/clinics/federal probes

hes the first DH in the hall, ive said it for years

LOL

You want to re-think that statement?

He was identified as testing positive for PEDs.

You can't put him in and ignore historically great players like Bonds and Clemens.
 

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JULY 10--For the second time in two years, an Ohio man has been charged with public indecency for allegedly “having sexual relations with a rubber pool float,” police report.
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Edwin Tobergta, 34, was indicted today in connection with last month’s incident, which reportedly occurred outside his home in Hamilton, a southwestern Ohio city.
According to a Hamilton Police Department report, Tobergta “stepped out of his back door, naked and was having sexual relations with a rubber pool float.” Investigators added that Tobergta’s alleged encounter with the item “occurred in front of several children who saw his genitals and his actions with the float. The children were under the age of 10 and it occurred in the afternoon during the daylight hours.”
Pictured in the above mug shot, Tobergta is being held in the Butler County jail in lieu of $25,000 on a felony public indecency charge.
In August 2011, Tobergta was arrested after a witness reported seeing him having sex with a pink blow-up pool raft early one Sunday morning. Tobergta, whose pants were at his ankles, was trysting with the raft in an alley, not a swimming pool.
When a witness yelled at Tobergta, he reportedly threw “a pink object over the fence,” reported cops, who added that, “A pink raft was located in the back yard” of a neighboring home.
Today’s felony indictment of Tobergta notes that the defendant has previously been convicted on three or more occasions of public indecency. (3 pages)

I rather fuck that pool raft versus the tatoo chick on page one.
 

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Calling Ortiz's "issues" the "same" as Bonds and Clemens? A bit laughable...


That's like saying Plaxico and Hernandez have the "same" issues because both illegally discharged a firearm...

As far as I know, only one of those three has been identified as actually testing positive.


Guess which one?

Laugh away. It doesn't change the facts one iota.
 

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We'll see.

If the #3 all time in pitcher WAR and a 7 time Cy Young winner and the #2 all time in hitter WAR, 7 time MVP and the all time HR leader can't get in because of their associations, well, I have a hard time seeing a DH with the same issues getting in, no matter how warm and fuzzy he is.

makes sense

but Ortiz has an advantage over those others.......nobody hates him

that isnt fair to clemens or bonds, but HOF voters hold grudges, as we know
 

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Think fast: 80's movie...The Mask with Cher...doesn't he look like the mongoloid?
 

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LOL

You want to re-think that statement?

He was identified as testing positive for PEDs.

You can't put him in and ignore historically great players like Bonds and Clemens.


LOL

wanna read what i wrote?

you may want to rethink that statement :lol:
 

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It's Marc Andre Fleury all over again

Goalies are only as good as their defenseman.

I'd invest more money in quality d-men .... and sign an average goalie.

Agree.

Crawford was great in 2011 but suck in 2012. But looked good this year.

Crawford most likely had a good 2013 because of the lock-out shorten season had him facing only the Western Conference teams.
 

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