1990 MLB Draft Semi-Final 1

[Nosferatu]

Please vote for the better team and give reasons why if you'd like.


TEAM ONE

Lineup
1 Robin Yount-SS-R-2X MVP, 2X All Star, 1st ballot Hall of Fame
2 Julio Franco-2B-R-3X AS, 5X Silver Slugger, AL Batting Champ
3 Barry Bonds-LF-L-7X MVP, 14X AS, 8 Gold Gloves
4 Juan Gonzalez-RF-R-2X MVP, 3X AS, 6X SS
5 Keith Hernandez-1B-L-NL MVP, 5X AS, 11X GG
6 Joe Carter-CF-R-5X AS, 2X SS, AL RBI Champ
7 Ken Caminiti-3B-Switch-NL MVP, 3X AS, 3X GG
8 Sandy Alomar Jr-C-R-6X AS, Rookie of the Year, All Star MVP
9 Carney Lansford-DH-R-AL Batting Champ, AS, SS

Bench
Darren Daulton-C/1B-L-3X AS, SS, World Series Champ
Robbie Thompson-2B-R-2X AS, GG, SS
Bo Jackson- OF-R-AS, All Star MVP, 10th in MVP
Howard Johnson-SS/3B-Switch-2X AS, HR Champ, RBI Champ
Dave Henderson-OF-R-AS, WS Champ, GW Hit in ALCS

Starting Pitchers
1 Randy Johnson-L-10X AS, 5X Cy Young, 9X K's Champ
2 Dave Stieb-R-7X AS, No Hitter, ERA Champ
3 Mike Scott-R-Cy Young, 3X AS, ERA Champ
4 Jerry Reuss-L-2X AS, No Hitter, 220 Wins
5 Mike Moore-R-AS, World Series Champ, 161 Wins

Bullpen
Closer-Dan Quisenberry-R-Sidearm-3X AS, 5X Rolaids Reliever of the year, World Series Champ
LSet Up-Dave Righetti-L-2X AS, 2X Rolaids RPOY, No Hitter as starter
RSet Up-Jeff Reardon-R-4X AS, RPOY, 363 Saves
RLong-Jay Howell-R-3X AS, WS Champ, 155 sAVES
LLong-Kent Merker-L-74 Wins, Pitched No Hitter, Pitched part of 2nd No Hitter
SRP-Don Aase-R-AS, 66-60, Career Best ERA 1.62


VERSUS


TEAM SEVEN

Lineup
1. Lenny Dykstra CF .375 OBP, 285 SB, 2nd in MVP in 1993
2. George Brett 3B 1st ballot HOF, .305/.369/.487/.857, 3,154 hits
3. Frank Thomas 1B 1st ballot HOF, back to back MVPS 1993/94, 521 HRs
4. Gary Sheffield RF 9X All-Star, 509 HRs, .292 /.393/.514/.907
5. David Justice DH 3X All-Star, 306 HRs, .279/.378/.500/.878
6. Greg Vaughn LF 4X All-Star, 355 HRs, two top 5 MVP finishes
7. Lou Whitaker 2B 5X All-Star, 3X Gold Glove, 4X Silver Slugger
8. Tony Fernandez SS 5X All-Star, 4X Gold Glove, 246 SB
9. Chris Hoiles C .366 OBP/ Fangraphs 46.8 career runs above average defense, .994 fielding pct

Bench
1b/OF John Kruk 3X All-Star, 134 wRC+, .300/.397/.446/.842
C Tom Pagnozzi 3X Gold Glove, 1X All-Star, 37% Caught Stealing
OF Roberto Kelly 2X All-Star, 235 SB/ .290/.337/.430 /.767
2B/3B/1B/LF Gregg Jefferies 2X All-Star, played full seasons at 4 different positions/ .289/.344/.421/.765
SS Mike Bordick 1X All-Star, Fangraphs 139.7 career runs above average defense/ .260 BA

Starting Rotation
SP - Nolan Ryan 1st ballot HOF/ All-time strikeouts leader 5,714, 3.19 ERA
SP - Curt Schilling 6X All-Star, 2001 WS MVP, 3.46 ERA
SP - Bob Welch 27 game winner in 1990 Cy Young winner/ 211 wins/ 3.47 ERA
SP - Ramon Martinez 2X top 5 Cy young placer/ 3.67 ERA/135 wins
SP - Alex Fernandez 18-9, 3.13 era in 1993/3.74 ERA/ 107 wins

Bullpen:
CL - John Wetteland 3X All-star, 330 saves, 2.93 ERA
RP - Jeff Montgomery 3X All-star, 304 saves, 3.27 ERA
RP - Alejandro Pena 3.11 ERA, 1.22 WHIP, 7.1 K/9
RP - Paul Assenmacher 3.53 ERA/ 3.31 FIP/ 8.5 K/9
RP - Mike Henneman 193 saves, 3.21 ERA, 1X All-Star
RP - Joe Price 3.65 ERA, 1.29 WHIP, 6.5 K/9

 

[Ritzarmy]

Team 1

 

[Pack 500]

I'm sure I'll be the only one to vote for Team 7 but what the hell!

 

[UK Cowboy]

All four of the teams remaining are outstanding. There are different ways to break this one down, but in a seven game series, there's just no way I could see team 1 losing 4 times. Would score too many runs and their pitching staff would be tough on team 7. 4 games to 2

Team 1 wins

 

[steveringo]

Team 1.


I just noticed that team 7 used "ERA" in his stats.... This is something you shouldn't do when comparing careers - especially careers from different years.

Ryan's career ERA was 3.19 and Schillings was 3.46. An outsider would thing Ryan was better, but as we know, and ERA of 3.00 from the 80's was not nearly as good as an ERA of 3.00 from the 90s.

Adjusted for league averages and ballparks, Ryans career ERA+ is 112 (slighlty above average) and Schilling's is 127 (a bit more above average).

Schilling had ten seasons with an ERA+ over 130 (out of his 16 starting seasons - 62%). Ryan only had four (out of his 26 seasons - 15%) ....

 

[blstoker]

Batting Order

Robin Yount - Lenny Dykstra 1 (Yount)
Julio Franco - George Brett 7 (Brett)
Barry Bonds - Frank Thomas 1 (Bonds)
Juan Gonzalez - Gary Sheffield 1 (Gonzalez)
Keith Hernandez - David Justice 1 (Hernandez)
Joe Carter - Greg Vaughn 1 (Carter)
Ken Caminiti - Lou Whitaker 1 (Caminiti)
Sandy Alomar - Tony Fernandez 7 (Fernandez)
Carney Lansford - Chris Hoiles 1 (Lansford)

Defense
Sandy Alomar - Chris Hoiles 1 (Alomar)
Keith Hernandez - Frank Thomas 1 (Hernandez)
Julio Franco - Lou Whitaker 7 (Whitaker)
Ken Caminiti - George Brett 1 (Caminiti)
Robin Yount - Tony Fernandez 1 (Yount)
Barry Bonds - Greg Vaughn 1 (Bonds)
Joe Carter - Lenny Dykstra 7 (Dykstra)
Juan Gonzalez - Gary Sheffield 1 (Gonzalez)


Bench
Darrin Daulton - Tom Pagnozzi 1 (Daulton)
Robbie Thompson - Gregg Jefferies 7 (Jefferies)
Bo Jackson - Roberto Kelly 7 (Kelly)
Howard Johnson - Mike Bordick 1 (Johnson)
Dave Henderson - John Kruk 1 (Henderson)

Rotation
Randy Johnson - Nolan Ryan 1 (Johnson)
Dave Steib - Curt Schilling 7 (Schilling)
Mike Scott - Bob Welch - 1 (Scott)
Jerry Ruess - Ramon Martinez 1 (Ruess)
Mike Moore - Alex Fernandez - 7 (Fernandez)

Bullpen
Dan Quisenberry - John Wetteland 1 (Quisenberry)
Dave Righetti - Paul Assenmacher 1 (Righetti)
Jeff Reardon - Jeff Montgomery 7 (Montgomery)
Kent Merker - Joe Price 1 (Merker)
Jay Howell - Mike Henneman 1 (Howell)
Don Aase - Alejandro Pena 7 (Pena)

Overall
BO - 7-2
Df - 6-2
Be - 3-2
Ro - 3-2
BP - 4-2

Team 1 23
Team 7 10

Team 1

 

[mr.hockey4242]

Team 1 and I think the series goes 5 at most

 

[broncosmitty]

Team 1

 

[wlk3]

I'm sure I'll be the only one to vote for Team 7 but what the hell!

Team 7 BABY!!!

 

[wlk3]

Batting Order

Robin Yount - Lenny Dykstra 1 (Yount)
Julio Franco - George Brett 7 (Brett)
Barry Bonds - Frank Thomas 1 (Bonds)
Juan Gonzalez - Gary Sheffield 1 (Gonzalez)
Keith Hernandez - David Justice 1 (Hernandez)
Joe Carter - Greg Vaughn 1 (Carter)
Ken Caminiti - Lou Whitaker 1 (Caminiti)
Sandy Alomar - Tony Fernandez 7 (Fernandez)
Carney Lansford - Chris Hoiles 1 (Lansford)

Defense
Sandy Alomar - Chris Hoiles 1 (Alomar)
Keith Hernandez - Frank Thomas 1 (Hernandez)
Julio Franco - Lou Whitaker 7 (Whitaker)
Ken Caminiti - George Brett 1 (Caminiti)
Robin Yount - Tony Fernandez 1 (Yount)
Barry Bonds - Greg Vaughn 1 (Bonds)
Joe Carter - Lenny Dykstra 7 (Dykstra)
Juan Gonzalez - Gary Sheffield 1 (Gonzalez)


Bench
Darrin Daulton - Tom Pagnozzi 1 (Daulton)
Robbie Thompson - Gregg Jefferies 7 (Jefferies)
Bo Jackson - Roberto Kelly 7 (Kelly)
Howard Johnson - Mike Bordick 1 (Johnson)
Dave Henderson - John Kruk 1 (Henderson)

Rotation
Randy Johnson - Nolan Ryan 1 (Johnson)
Dave Steib - Curt Schilling 7 (Schilling)
Mike Scott - Bob Welch - 1 (Scott)
Jerry Ruess - Ramon Martinez 1 (Ruess)
Mike Moore - Alex Fernandez - 7 (Fernandez)

Bullpen
Dan Quisenberry - John Wetteland 1 (Quisenberry)
Dave Righetti - Paul Assenmacher 1 (Righetti)
Jeff Reardon - Jeff Montgomery 7 (Montgomery)
Kent Merker - Joe Price 1 (Merker)
Jay Howell - Mike Henneman 1 (Howell)
Don Aase - Alejandro Pena 7 (Pena)

Overall
BO - 7-2
Df - 6-2
Be - 3-2
Ro - 3-2
BP - 4-2

Team 1 23
Team 7 10

Team 1

Awesome vote

 

[Nosferatu]

Ritz = 1
500 = 7
UK = 1
Steve = 1
Stoke = 1
Hockey = 1
Smitty = 1
WLK = 7




Team 1 = 6 votes
Team 7 = 2 votes

 

[broncosmitty]

Abstaining on this one Nos?

 

[Nosferatu]

Abstaining on this one Nos?

Being it's already been decided I didn't feel the need to vote.

I listed these teams #2 and #3 in the rankings.

I feel because of the trades team 1 would win this but if either team won it all I wouldn't be surprised.

 

[Shanemansj13]

Team 1