Series Thread: 1) Miami Heat vs. 2) Boston Celtics

[fightinfunbags]

If Tatum wants more love maybe he needs to be able to grow facial hair like a man instead of this peach fuzz of an 8th grader.

 

[tlance]

One reason is while Tatum is great and on the rise to be greater, he's not prime LeBron

Not even in the ballpark of close

 

[tlance]

i just don't get why tatum can't get both 1st team defense and 1st team all nba like lebron did from 2009-2013.

Defense is a HUGE part of Tatum's game. So it really doesn't make sense. You're giving him 1st team all nba because he's a great 2 way player, not just because his offense. I guess he's just not flashy enough, not enough muscles to give him credit for his defense? and not a role player?

Because there are better defender than Tatum in the NBA.

Tatum is very good. But nowhere near the player LeBron was when he was winning those accolades.

Like not even close.

LeBron was the undisputed best player in tue NBA for over a decade.

Tatum is just now cementing himself as a top 10 player. He has a long way to go to get where you are trying to put him.

 

[Mecca]

Thank you. Nice to be here. I'm a Tatum\Kawhi fan so I pretty much cheer for Celtics in the east and clippers in the west. I don't know what i would do if they ever face in the finals LOL

This place seems pretty chill and less flooded with trolls, so that's good.

So, y'all gonna make me be the asshole?

Very Suss.

But, welcome.

 

[Mecca]

i just don't get why tatum can't get both 1st team defense and 1st team all nba like lebron did from 2009-2013.

Defense is a HUGE part of Tatum's game. So it really doesn't make sense. You're giving him 1st team all nba because he's a great 2 way player, not just because his offense. I guess he's just not flashy enough, not enough muscles to give him credit for his defense? and not a role player?

You are aware that Luka made 1st team All-NBA and plays defense about as well as my dining room chair, right?

Trae Young made 3rd team.

I don't think it's necessarily based on who is the best 2way player.

This will open up a can of worms that I will soon regret.

But, the fact that Jokic is 1st team over Embiid is all the proof you need to validate that claim.

 

[flyingelvis]

If Tatum wants more love maybe he needs to be able to grow facial hair like a man instead of this peach fuzz of an 8th grader.

Lebron saw it coming...

 

[Mecca]

Quite honestly, he’s first team NBA on the fact that the system hasn’t adjusted yet to positionless basketball. Tatum got the spot that should have been Embiid’s. Embiid was on 57 1st team ballots and Tatum was in the 40s. Great player. I think he’s absolutely gotten recognition. He has all of NBA media in his corner led by super homer pretending to be a journalist in Bill Simmons and all of his automatons at the Ringer. Tatum has definitely gotten enough love.

Lordy, I was hoping you wouldn't see this discussion.... Lol

 

[Mecca]

Lebron saw it coming...

Gary Payton still always has his mouth open.

At least he isn't chewing gum this time.

 

[thunderc]

True. It is good to give role players their due and recognition.

But if you keep snubbing these superstars who actually play defense, it's going to give them an excuse to not play defense. I like our superstars playing defense. Even a guy like Lebron hasn't had an all defense selection in like a decade it seems and he's a media darling. Seems like they punish you for being a scorer and assume you can't play elite D because your usage\scoring responsibility.

Lol no it’s no excuse not to play defense. They are grown men, making millions of dollars.

 

[Kawhi_2_Murray]

You are aware that Luka made 1st team All-NBA and plays defense about as well as my dining room chair, right?

Trae Young made 3rd team.

I don't think it's necessarily based on who is the best 2way player.

This will open up a can of worms that I will soon regret.

But, the fact that Jokic is 1st team over Embiid is all the proof you need to validate that claim.

So, y'all gonna make me be the asshole?

Very Suss.

But, welcome.

Misunderstood a lot of the times but I know and love the sport that's for sure

 

[Kawhi_2_Murray]

You are aware that Luka made 1st team All-NBA and plays defense about as well as my dining room chair, right?

Trae Young made 3rd team.

I don't think it's necessarily based on who is the best 2way player.

This will open up a can of worms that I will soon regret.

But, the fact that Jokic is 1st team over Embiid is all the proof you need to validate that claim.

I never said you have to play defense to be 1st team.

I said a big part of Tatum's game is his defense. I don't think he makes 1st team without his defense. So I don't see how you can't give him at least 2nd team all NBA.

Tatum wouldn't be that special of a player if he played defense like luka. It's his defense that puts him over the top.

 

[Mecca]

I never said you have to play defense to be 1st team.

I said a big part of Tatum's game is his defense. I don't think he makes 1st team without his defense. So I don't see how you can't give him at least 2nd team all NBA.

Tatum wouldn't be that special of a player if he played defense like luka. It's his defense that puts him over the top.

You mean why he can't get 2nd team all defense?

Because every single player on the 2nd team, at his position, is a better defender than him.

Who would you remove?

I really like Jason.

Total Stud.

Did an outstanding job on KD.

Still, not a better individual defender than Williams, Dray, Thybulle.........yet.

 

[Mecca]

Misunderstood a lot of the times but I know and love the sport that's for sure

I'm just messing with you.

That's just a weird combination of fandom.

 

[thunderc]

Good start by Miami

 

[bksballer89]

Jimmy right now

 

[Kawhi_2_Murray]

You mean why he can't get 2nd team all defense?

Because every single player on the 2nd team, at his position, is a better defender than him.

Who would you remove?

I really like Jason.

Total Stud.

Did an outstanding job on KD.

Still, not a better individual defender than Williams, Dray, Thybulle.........yet.

Just for responsibility and minutes alone, it's a joke to put Thybulle over him.

Tatum anchored the #2 defense

 

[thunderc]

Everyone be sure and remember there is tons of great softball action all weekend. Also, I saw where all 4 previous seasons of Yellowstone are on paramount in a marathon starting tomorrow. I have cleared the recorder so I can get them all. I have been stubborn in not paying to get them lol.

Oops. Wrong thread.

 

[Kawhi_2_Murray]

Celtics should be fine as long as they don't let butler go off for 50 points tonight. The problem is he's on pace for that.

 

[Kawhi_2_Murray]

I'm just messing with you.

That's just a weird combination of fandom.

Tatum did say he idolized kawhi but yeah they are a bit different offensively

 

[Shanemansj13]

Jimmy right now

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If he goes off for 45 through 3…give him the MVP instead of Jokic now