First evidence on SM

[gkekoa]

Are you serious dude? Moses was the one who locked down the RT position and stopped pass rushers from getting to KC. Scherff helped but did not have an impact like the others did. Let me get this straight you would rather have Scehrff right now than Zeke or Beasley? So if both those teams offered us straight up trade for Scherff you would say no. LMFAO!

You are off your rocker. First the MCcaffery statement not going first round and now this. Wow. just wow!!

Plus if Mixon didn't have the off field incident there could be an argument that he would of went top 10.

Scherff had a far greater impact in 2015 than Beasley. He had a huge impact in 2016 giving a clean pocket to a 5000 yard passer; however, Beasley probably did have a larger impact.

Zeke didn't have much of an impact IMO. Their running game was good in 2015 but they had no QB.

I would take Scherff over Zeke...Beasley would be tough because it was only one year.

I will stick with Scherff over Williams.

 

[Stymietee]

Gotta tell you guys, draft day posts are going to be live, I can hardly wait for reactions when we are off the #17 clock.

 

[Skin'EmAll]

Scherff had a far greater impact in 2015 than Beasley. He had a huge impact in 2016 giving a clean pocket to a 5000 yard passer; however, Beasley probably did have a larger impact.

Zeke didn't have much of an impact IMO. Their running game was good in 2015 but they had no QB.

I would take Scherff over Zeke...Beasley would be tough because it was only one year.

I will stick with Scherff over Williams.

If we are talking strictly Redskins I'd pick Scherff over Beasley everytime. The team refuses to put together a legit 3-4. Beasley gets a pass for sucking his rookie year, but please believe he would have flopped again without Freeney's help. Zeke would have to be considered because he did what you are supposed to do with the best o-line in football. Williams would likely have had the same career path as Scherff at this point since the overachiever Baker would have been playing across from him.

 

[Stymietee]

In keeping with the theme of this thread SM never was the problem here.....Like him or not, Tandler makes some very good observations. We're on page 4:

Eight teams most likely to bungle the 2017 NFL Draft

 

[Buffalo_Nickel_1]

even with scotts picks we still around 500 thats not good.......Jesus

 

[Darrell Green Fan]

Take another look though. Their running game didn't improve too much. They went up by .2 yards per carry and 500 yards total on the year. Their QB improved their rush by more than 200 yards there...the RB position improved by under 300.

Gurley didn't get to 900 yards.

D'Angelo Williams was great when Bell was out.

I think a 300 yard improvement is significant, as was Zeke's 15 rushing TDs when compared with 3 for McFadden. As to your other points obviously a line is also crucial, a great back can't produce without help. I also happen to consider D'Angelo Williams the most underrated player in football, said it for years. Still doesn't mean Bell isn't a big part of that team.

 

[gkekoa]

I think a 300 yard improvement is significant, as was Zeke's 15 rushing TDs when compared with 3 for McFadden. As to your other points obviously a line is also crucial, a great back can't produce without help. I also happen to consider D'Angelo Williams the most underrated player in football, said it for years. Still doesn't mean Bell isn't a big part of that team.

You can't compare Zeke to McFadden because you can't compare Dak to whoever their QB was last season, especially when it comes to TDs.

I agree D'Angelo has always been underrated. I also agree Bell is as good as any RB in the league. My point is, in any offense, RBs are fairly easy to replace production wise compared to other positions.

 

[deanpet21]

Sherf makes Moses and long , without him they are Steiger and polumbus or a turnstyle

Wrong without Moses there is Polumbus. Moses is very important to this line. Of course Sherf is an upgrade over Long and Setiger b/c those guys are average at best.

 

[gkekoa]

Wrong without Moses there is Polumbus. Moses is very important to this line. Of course Sherf is an upgrade over Long and Setiger b/c those guys are average at best.

Let us know when Moses is actually good. Scherff is a pro bowler...he is good period.

 

[Ruzious]

Let us know when Moses is actually good. Scherff is a pro bowler...he is good period.

Moses really took a step back last year - though I got the feeling he was playing hurt. At times, it looked like he wasn't even trying. Some guys just suck when they play hurt (as opposed to injured), and unfortunately, he's that type of guy. Scherff seems like the type who's going to give 100% no matter what. For Moses, the proof will be in how he plays this season. Either step up or step off the field. No more taking plays off.

 

[skinsdad62]

Wrong without Moses there is Polumbus. Moses is very important to this line. Of course Sherf is an upgrade over Long and Setiger b/c those guys are average at best.

dream on moses would be a turnstyle

 

[deanpet21]

dream on moses would be a turnstyle

what are you talking about? Polubus was our RT before Moses came here. Now Moses is our RT and is doing a very good job of it.

 

[skinsdad62]

because of sherrf

 

[gkekoa]

what are you talking about? Polubus was our RT before Moses came here. Now Moses is our RT and is doing a very good job of it.

Wasn't Polumbus here a full year with Moses and Moses didn't beat him out?

 

[deanpet21]

Wasn't Polumbus here a full year with Moses and Moses didn't beat him out?

I don't remember. I do know that Moses had the Lisfranc injury his rookie year.

 

[gkekoa]

Polumbus started over Moses.

 

[Sharkinva]

And Polumbus got cut because we drafted Scherff.

Ergo, Scherff is the reason Moses got a chance to start.

 

[skinsdad62]

Moses was a total disaster as a rookie , had issues with snap counts , polimbus beat him outv chester and Steiger were stiffs