First evidence on SM

[Buffalo_Nickel_1]

ok lets be clear here
most of the anti scherf draft crowd wanted williams , they used every debate tool in the book to convince 2 old school posters that they were shitheads and pundits and draft gurus were gods and thinking for oneself was taboo . when the old schoolers were proven right one particular became buut hurt and couldnt accept he was wrong . the same butt hurt poster bashed TM for years even thought the guy HE advocated got picked by us a round later

sherf is a legit PB player as opposed to the pro bowl alternate williams , since now being a PB alternate is legit when it serves the purpose of those who want it that way but used the pro bowl alternate to besmerch RAK when it suited there own purpose

we would be crap on offense without sherf

and for the worn out 2-17 BS being run , first off sherf starts and is a pro bowler , second crowder starts , and thirdly smith starts . and 17 picks in which well over half are mid to late rounders isnt very realistic whne looking for starters , kelly starts and dunbar plays big minutes davis was a great find blackman has started and playe signiificant time josh normab is huge . sullivan stepped in and played well for us kojo played well for us in a couple of wins . the guy fought for KC and we have a record setting qb

he was entering year 3 of a 5 year rebuild after being handed a shit roster and has built 2 super bowl teams in his previous stops

we have 10 picks because of him in this draft and the fa's we signed this season are off HIS board

no he isnt god but our "winning ways " coinside with his arrival

its still not good enough

 

[skinsdad62]

its still not good enough

Then your expectations are out of whack

 

[gkekoa]

People are not doing victory laps on the Scherff pick. We are simply saying he is a damn good football player. DEAN is the one that has belittled the pick, like it is a FACT that it was a poor pick. Leonard Williams had a good rookie season but he plays beside Wilkerson. He would get double teamed here and may look much worse. We have a poor DL now...we had a poor OL when we drafted Scherff. We had a fragile QB in RGME and he needed to be protected; now we have a durable QB that is protected...

Yet we are too stupid to offer him a decent contract.

 

[skinsdad62]

Sherf. makes long and Moses better . Without that blocking everything else fails . Williams would be the best triple teamed player. On a 25th ranked defense

 

[gkekoa]

Just stop. While Scherff is a very very good player, let's not act like he is as important to the OL as Trent, or probably Moses for that matter. Kirk Vousins didn't magically start throwing for thousands of yards when Scherff arrived.

Last I checked our running game was not great, some of that can be attributed to the lack of talent/injuries at the RB position, some of that falls on the OL, particularly the interior.

The argument for Williams over Scherff is largely because while our OL has been OK, our DL has been a steaming pile of shit. Williams would have made as much of an impact on our porous DL as Scherff has made. It's a valid argument.

Trent was replaced last season by Nsecke and we didn't miss much. If Moses were not there, Nsecke may have been an upgrade. If Scherff is injured, there is no replacement. G is every bit as important as RT.

 

[j_y19]

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People are not doing victory laps on the Scherff pick. We are simply saying he is a damn good football player. DEAN is the one that has belittled the pick, like it is a FACT that it was a poor pick. Leonard Williams had a good rookie season but he plays beside Wilkerson. He would get double teamed here and may look much worse. We have a poor DL now...we had a poor OL when we drafted Scherff. We had a fragile QB in RGME and he needed to be protected; now we have a durable QB that is protected...

Yet we are too stupid to offer him a decent contract.

people shouldn't be doing a victory lap on anyone drafted in the last 2 years, including Williams. He looks promising but he could also turn out to be the next Dana Stubblefield or even Haynesworth, just as Scherff could also collapse. That was my whole point. It is way too early to call a 2nd year player a $15 hog dog or the next Reggie White. Let them get through their rookie contracts and see where they are in another 2-3 years.

 

[deanpet21]

People are not doing victory laps on the Scherff pick. We are simply saying he is a damn good football player. DEAN is the one that has belittled the pick, like it is a FACT that it was a poor pick. Leonard Williams had a good rookie season but he plays beside Wilkerson. He would get double teamed here and may look much worse. We have a poor DL now...we had a poor OL when we drafted Scherff. We had a fragile QB in RGME and he needed to be protected; now we have a durable QB that is protected...

Yet we are too stupid to offer him a decent contract.

Wrong. I am saying SM valued OG over pass rushing DE and all around DL talent. I disagree with that like many other poster do. Its been proven from various drafts that pass rushers and dl talent trump the OG position. ITs funny how you guys have no answer to this argument.

 

[Sharkinva]

Wrong. I am saying SM valued OG over pass rushing DE and all around DL talent. I disagree with that like many other poster do. Its been proven from various drafts that pass rushers and dl talent trump the OG position. ITs funny how you guys have no answer to this argument.

Actually Scot valued the better football player.

Scherff made the lineman around him better. Williams was average in one of the better defenses in the league.

And its funny how you cant except that Williams would have been a top five pick on an otherwise talent starved defense. So what really served the team better?? Improving the offensive line, and we all of a sudden became a top ten offense two years running, or taking the sexy D-lineman who MIGHT have helped make a bottom 3 defense into a mid 20's defense.

 

[deanpet21]

ok lets be clear here
most of the anti scherf draft crowd wanted williams , they used every debate tool in the book to convince 2 old school posters that they were shitheads and pundits and draft gurus were gods and thinking for oneself was taboo . when the old schoolers were proven right one particular became buut hurt and couldnt accept he was wrong . the same butt hurt poster bashed TM for years even thought the guy HE advocated got picked by us a round later

sherf is a legit PB player as opposed to the pro bowl alternate williams , since now being a PB alternate is legit when it serves the purpose of those who want it that way but used the pro bowl alternate to besmerch RAK when it suited there own purpose

we would be crap on offense without sherf

and for the worn out 2-17 BS being run , first off sherf starts and is a pro bowler , second crowder starts , and thirdly smith starts . and 17 picks in which well over half are mid to late rounders isnt very realistic whne looking for starters , kelly starts and dunbar plays big minutes davis was a great find blackman has started and playe signiificant time josh normab is huge . sullivan stepped in and played well for us kojo played well for us in a couple of wins . the guy fought for KC and we have a record setting qb

he was entering year 3 of a 5 year rebuild after being handed a shit roster and has built 2 super bowl teams in his previous stops

we have 10 picks because of him in this draft and the fa's we signed this season are off HIS board

no he isnt god but our "winning ways " coinside with his arrival

You have not been proven right. Gabe Jackson is a better player than Long. Williams or Beasly would of have been better for this team than Scherff. David Johsnon is a better player than Matt Jones. Moses is a better player than Murphy.

However you look at it all my picks are better than what this organization has done.

 

[deanpet21]

Actually Scot valued the better football player.

Scherff made the lineman around him better. Williams was average in one of the better defenses in the league.

And its funny how you cant except that Williams would have been a top five pick on an otherwise talent starved defense. So what really served the team better?? Improving the offensive line, and we all of a sudden became a top ten offense two years running, or taking the sexy D-lineman who MIGHT have helped make a bottom 3 defense into a mid 20's defense.

Better football player? Beasley or Williams are worst football players? lol.

No GM worth anything in this league values OG over DE pass rushers. Give me an example when and OG was picked over a DE in the top 5 or 10 in the draft? You cant b/c its such an outrageous statement.

As VTsparks put it Scherff is not the main reason why KC is succeeding.

 

[SoCalWizFan]

ya he filled a need but we passed on BIGGER needs like pass rusher and run stopper to buy this $15 hot dog. That is why fans are upset.

We have posters on here that feel OG's are bigger needs and should be drafted higher than pass rushers or dlineamn who can both stop the run and rush the passer. Just amazing.

Dude - will you ever fucking get over this? Be honest - you don't give a shit whether this was the rt pick for the Redskins. You just for some stupid reason seem to care about being rt about your predictions. Move on - they picked who they picked & you can't go back in time. Do you always live in the past?

 

[SoCalWizFan]

Better football player? Beasley or Williams are worst football players? lol.

No GM worth anything in this league values OG over DE pass rushers. Give me an example when and OG was picked over a DE in the top 5 or 10 in the draft? You cant b/c its such an outrageous statement.

As VTsparks put it Scherff is not the main reason why KC is succeeding.

KC succeeding? LOL. Aren't you the guy who has been pleading with the Redskins for the last several months to get rid of KC? Whatever.

 

[deanpet21]

Dude - will you ever fucking get over this? Be honest - you don't give a shit whether this was the rt pick for the Redskins. You just for some stupid reason seem to care about being rt about your predictions. Move on - they picked who they picked & you can't go back in time. Do you always live in the past?

I didn't start this thread. Im just responding to the bullshit that has been posted.

 

[deanpet21]

KC succeeding? LOL. Aren't you the guy who has been pleading with the Redskins for the last several months to get rid of KC? Whatever.

Wrong. Go take another hit.

 

[Sharkinva]

Better football player? Beasley or Williams are worst football players? lol.

No GM worth anything in this league values OG over DE pass rushers. Give me an example when and OG was picked over a DE in the top 5 or 10 in the draft? You cant b/c its such an outrageous statement.

As VTsparks put it Scherff is not the main reason why KC is succeeding.

Nope, he isnt the main reason why Cousins improved... but fixing the O-line in general is WHY we have a top ten offense.

Like I said, answer the question... how much do you actually think our defense would have improved by adding a DE that at best would have been double teamed every snap?? Williams was above average at best on one of the better defenses in the league. The way you stroke his shit, you would think he was hands down the best pass rusher in the history of the NFL. You are a perfect example of Dan Snyder syndrome..... go for the flashy pick and value other teams players much more than the players that actually have done well for this team.

 

[deanpet21]

Nope, he isnt the main reason why Cousins improved... but fixing the O-line in general is WHY we have a top ten offense.

Like I said, answer the question... how much do you actually think our defense would have improved by adding a DE that at best would have been double teamed every snap?? Williams was above average at best on one of the better defenses in the league. The way you stroke his shit, you would think he was hands down the best pass rusher in the history of the NFL. You are a perfect example of Dan Snyder syndrome..... go for the flashy pick and value other teams players much more than the players that actually have done well for this team.

Its all speculation. I wasn't against fixing the o line but not at 5. Could have found decent OG's later in the draft. Once again you value OG over DE and pass rusher. Do you know how insane you sound?

 

[Sharkinva]

Its all speculation. I wasn't against fixing the o line but not at 5. Could have found decent OG's later in the draft. Once again you value OG over DE and pass rusher. Do you know how insane you sound?

I value whats better for the team on the field over what looks sexy on draft day. You are speculating that the team would have been netter off with Jackson, Johnson, Williams and what ever other player you had a crush on. Its been PROVEN that Scherff was a good pick for us. Its been PROVEN that taking Murphy when we did was a good move.

 

[j_y19]

Dude - will you ever fucking get over this? Be honest - you don't give a shit whether this was the rt pick for the Redskins. You just for some stupid reason seem to care about being rt about your predictions. Move on - they picked who they picked & you can't go back in time. Do you always live in the past?

Ding, ding, ding! We have a winner!

 

[deanpet21]

I value whats better for the team on the field over what looks sexy on draft day. You are speculating that the team would have been netter off with Jackson, Johnson, Williams and what ever other player you had a crush on. Its been PROVEN that Scherff was a good pick for us. Its been PROVEN that taking Murphy when we did was a good move.

No speculation its true. they are better players.

Sure it has. lol. Now that we have TM are pass rushing needs are solved. lol. Just admit it Dr. Doom you would take Lamp over Garrett in this draft.

 

[deanpet21]

Ding, ding, ding! We have a winner!

Once again didn't create the post. socal commenting on something totally different.