Expectations for Trevor Siemian

[cdumler7]

I'm willing to wait and see. I don't think the team has to answer this question before the end of this season or next, either. But I'll run two scenarios by you:

1) The Broncos finish 10-6 or 11-5 this year, have a good showing in the playoffs but fail to reach the Super Bowl. Siemian leads the offense and is solid but this just isn't our year. In 2017 he looks solid again, but for whatever reason the Broncos make the switch to Lynch midway through the season. Following the 2017 season the Broncos trade Siemian to a QB needy team for a 2nd or 3rd round pick.

2) The Broncos reach the Super Bowl and repeat as champions, but this time the offense doesn't need to be carried by the defense like it did last year. Siemian does his part, leading the Broncos in an improbable season reminiscent of Brady's second year in the league. As the off season begins, Kubiak makes it clear Siemian is their QB and he benefits from a full season of the off season program as the named starter. 2017 sees him build on this year. Lynch being under contract makes it easy for the time being, but everyone knows the Broncos are soon going to have to choose between a proven commodity and the guy they drafted a first round pick in.

I suppose I should recognize the potential for this scenario as well:

Siemian gets the Broncos to a solid start but levels off as teams have more tape on him. The Broncos turn turn to Lynch and Siemian reverts to a backup role. At the conclusion of his contract he is allowed to depart in FA.

Personally, I consider scenario 1 MOST LIKELY. Understand this does not mean I've written off this team's chances of repeating.

Yeah I'm waiting for now. I like Siemian and hey if he becomes our long-term solution at the QB position I will be happy. As long as we have a long-term solution between Siemian and Lynch I'll take it! Still though I guess I just watch some of what Siemian does and just see a guy that average QB is about his ceiling. I hope I'm wrong but I see quite a few limitations to his game.

 

[iknowftbll]

Yeah I'm waiting for now. I like Siemian and hey if he becomes our long-term solution at the QB position I will be happy. As long as we have a long-term solution between Siemian and Lynch I'll take it! Still though I guess I just watch some of what Siemian does and just see a guy that average QB is about his ceiling. I hope I'm wrong but I see quite a few limitations to his game.

But even if that proves to be the case the Broncos appear to have a guy who can complement this defense by playing within the system and keeping the team in games. In a year where the Broncos were supposed to be lucky to go 8-8 they have a guy who just may lead the offense to another AFC West title. And if they feel they need to transition to Lynch next year, great. I'm just glad the team still looks good, even in a "rebuilding" year.

 

[Mingo]

I think the appropriate question about Siemian is just how much better he has the capacity to be. If Siemian seems to get better game to game the Broncos have something.

One play I really liked against the Panthers was the first pass or so - when Siemian was setting up for a short pass into the flat - a defender was clearly between Siemian and the receiver - Siemian got the defender into the air with a pump fake and then threw sidearm for a completion. That is an example of Siemian's learned behavior. Don't sell Siemian's ceiling short -because he didn't have gaudy numbers in college - he appears to have the brain and the mechanics of a fine QB. Siemian beat out 2nd year man Zac Dysert in his rookie UDFA season - which says something about his potential. Dysert is still knocking around the league.

Still and all - Paxton Lynch - is a very unique talent. Which makes me see Siemian more as a target than a long term starter.

Having both of those QBs look good - is money in the bank.

 

[Dr Cyanide 28]

If both are good is best case scenario. Hope we make the right decision on who to keep in the end!

 

[cdumler7]

But even if that proves to be the case the Broncos appear to have a guy who can complement this defense by playing within the system and keeping the team in games. In a year where the Broncos were supposed to be lucky to go 8-8 they have a guy who just may lead the offense to another AFC West title. And if they feel they need to transition to Lynch next year, great. I'm just glad the team still looks good, even in a "rebuilding" year.

Oh I'll take it this year. Part of this is I am a huge Lynch fan. I've been pumping him up here on this board since about October of last year when I first watched a few of his games. i just see him as our future and while I am happy with Siemian being our starter I am a bit impatient waiting for the Lynch era to begin. Now maybe it never begins and Siemian plays beyond what I think he can and I would be ok with that too.

 

[Dr Cyanide 28]

Oh I'll take it this year. Part of this is I am a huge Lynch fan. I've been pumping him up here on this board since about October of last year when I first watched a few of his games. i just see him as our future and while I am happy with Siemian being our starter I am a bit impatient waiting for the Lynch era to begin. Now maybe it never begins and Siemian plays beyond what I think he can and I would be ok with that too.

I would be ok wth an Alex Smith Colin Kaepernick scenario. We play well this year with Siemian and get to playoffs. Start with Siemian next year but put much more on his plate. If he struggles than switch to Lynch who has much higher upside esp in this offense. Trade Siemian for two 2nds the following draft

sidenote, i know you were pumping lynch, but how bout my boy wentz? one game but man he can throw a pretty football.

 

[cdumler7]

I would be ok wth an Alex Smith Colin Kaepernick scenario. We play well this year with Siemian and get to playoffs. Start with Siemian next year but put much more on his plate. If he struggles than switch to Lynch who has much higher upside esp in this offense. Trade Siemian for two 2nds the following draft

sidenote, i know you were pumping lynch, but how bout my boy wentz? one game but man he can throw a pretty football.

Honestly I did not look too much into Wentz. By the time his name popped up on my radar he was being pumped up as a top-5 pick which obviously meant we didn't stand a chance to get him. Heck Lynch for a long time was in that conversation. His bowl game killed his draft stock which honestly sometimes I like those type of players as too many teams let one bad game really drop a player instead of looking at the entire picture. Plus losing his coach right before the bowl game is a huge blow to players.

And yeah I would be ok with an Alex Smith/Kaepernick situation. We have a much better Front Office than what the 49ers had where our coach and FO actually get along and are on the same page of how to build this team. I don't see Kubiak leaving for the college game any time soon. So if we can get 2 2nd round picks or another 1st round pick for our 7th round pick investment man that would be huge!

 

[Dr Cyanide 28]

Honestly I did not look too much into Wentz. By the time his name popped up on my radar he was being pumped up as a top-5 pick which obviously meant we didn't stand a chance to get him. Heck Lynch for a long time was in that conversation. His bowl game killed his draft stock which honestly sometimes I like those type of players as too many teams let one bad game really drop a player instead of looking at the entire picture. Plus losing his coach right before the bowl game is a huge blow to players.

And yeah I would be ok with an Alex Smith/Kaepernick situation. We have a much better Front Office than what the 49ers had where our coach and FO actually get along and are on the same page of how to build this team. I don't see Kubiak leaving for the college game any time soon. So if we can get 2 2nd round picks or another 1st round pick for our 7th round pick investment man that would be huge!

I liked wentz in like november. was talk of him going late round 2 which i would have loved because his tape in the championship game against Ill St was that good. Then there was major buzz and he shot up the draft board. He looks good one of my favorite QB prospects in the last few years (along with Luck and Winston).

 

[cdumler7]

I liked wentz in like november. was talk of him going late round 2 which i would have loved because his tape in the championship game against Ill St was that good. Then there was major buzz and he shot up the draft board. He looks good one of my favorite QB prospects in the last few years (along with Luck and Winston).

See that is what shocked me about Lynch is that QB's when they get even a little bit of hype seem to jump up boards like crazy. At the same time I guess the last impression you make seems to be what teams remember. Same thing happened to Bridgewater where he had a bad pro day and all of a sudden went from possible 1st overall pick to last pick in the 1st round. So even NFL GM's are prone to be stuck in the last moment instead of looking at the entire picture.

I do like Wentz and think he will have a decent career. I worried a bit more that he wouldn't have the talent around him early in his career because of how much they gave up to get him but that trade for Bradford should help minimize that just a bit. Goff is the guy that looks like the huge bust so far from this past draft class. Watching him in preseason he looks fragile and just is not looking like a good QB at all.

 

[randymon]

I didn't like either Goff or Wentz as 1-2 rd talent. Verdict is still out on both and although Wentz looked the part vs Brown's, well, it was the Brown's. Never could understand Goff as a 1 when you look at his Cal career especially wins and losses vs a conference that mostly doesn't play D. Mind boggling.

 

[iknowftbll]

Siemian's line on Sunday: 16 of 24 for 193-1-1. Remember where you heard it first.

 

[MileHigh64]

Siemian's line on Sunday: 16 of 24 for 193-1-1. Remember where you heard it first.

Paxton Lynch isn't in yet? Damn!

 

[Mingo]

I'm looking for some Red Zone success as Siemian's next growth objective.

I'm also with Carl - in that Jano is not in there when the Broncos are going for short yardage. I don't get it.

 

[Orange Crush77]

All I can say is after watching Brock tonight, we absolutely made the right decision. He actually looks as if he regressed with his throwing motion. He looks clumsy out there, like newborn calf clumsy. When this is all said and done, Paxton will be the better qb, hell Siemian looks better as far as fluidity and getting the ball out. Another testament to Elway's genius

 

[Orange Crush77]

Not to mention we got to keep Sanders and Marshall

 

[iknowftbll]

All I can say is after watching Brock tonight, we absolutely made the right decision. He actually looks as if he regressed with his throwing motion. He looks clumsy out there, like newborn calf clumsy. When this is all said and done, Paxton will be the better qb, hell Siemian looks better as far as fluidity and getting the ball out. Another testament to Elway's genius

Yeah, that was a lot of money for a 27-0 final! I hope the Broncos can shut them out too!

 

[58crash]

All I can say is after watching Brock tonight, we absolutely made the right decision. He actually looks as if he regressed with his throwing motion. He looks clumsy out there, like newborn calf clumsy. When this is all said and done, Paxton will be the better qb, hell Siemian looks better as far as fluidity and getting the ball out. Another testament to Elway's genius

I smell NE Cheating again . They Know the Plays to games to beat Houston like they did tonight back to the same old same old .no I did not watch it! Fuck the NFL .

SS don't even bother ! the last time you said I was full of beans 3 weeks later it came out NE was cheating just like I said .. they just cant help themselves

 

[Orange Crush77]

NE could very well be cheating, that doesn't change Osweiler's hour long wind up throwing motion. Back to NE, they are a unbelievably well coached team.

 

[SpringStein]

I smell NE Cheating again . They Know the Plays to games to beat Houston like they did tonight back to the same old same old .no I did not watch it! Fuck the NFL .

SS don't even bother ! the last time you said I was full of beans 3 weeks later it came out NE was cheating just like I said .. they just cant help themselves

Ok, you are full of the gas from the beans!

Hope you have a good weekend Mr Crash.

 

[cdumler7]

Siemian's line on Sunday: 16 of 24 for 193-1-1. Remember where you heard it first.

I think this kind of line would win this game. The interception depends when and where it happens a bit but I think if the Broncos can win or at least be equal in the turnover battle then they stand a very good chance of winning this one.