roster projection offense

[skinsdad62]

Redskins post-minicamp 53-man roster projection, offense

i cant see keeping sudfeld on the 53 .

the o/line will be interesting

 

[Buffalo_Nickel_1]

gruden will chose the best 53 if rb kelly looks good in camp and inpreseason and mitchell sucks gruden and scott will keep kelly .wr ross kicked ass last year in preseason and he made it

 

[Burnsie]

John Keim thinks we will keep Sudfield on the roster in a development role. Here is his exact words:

"Sudfeld is the rookie draft pick to develop. They like him enough that they won’t risk putting him on the practice squad."

Redskins' 53-man roster projection has LB Perry Riley on the bubble

I tend to agree especially with the long-term uncertainty with KC. Plus it must mean they are happy enough with where he is at this point to try to groom him for a possibly backup or starter role in the future.

 

[gkekoa]

Why are we so worried another team will take our sixth round pick and put him on their active roster after just a couple of weeks?

 

[Burnsie]

Why are we so worried another team will take our sixth round pick and put him on their active roster after just a couple of weeks?

Why do you worry whether he is a sixth round pick or not? If Gruden and SM like Sudfield and feel he can be developed into a future possibility, then it may warrant a roster spot.

To me this is how you win in the NFL. Develop those later round picks, so several years down the line they are ready to step in when other players want big contracts. Then you are not trying to plug all of your holes with rookies or high priced free agents.

 

[gkekoa]

Why do you worry whether he is a sixth round pick or not? If Gruden and SM like Sudfield and feel he can be developed into a future possibility, then it may warrant a roster spot.

To me this is how you win in the NFL. Develop those later round picks, so several years down the line they are ready to step in when other players want big contracts. Then you are not trying to plug all of your holes with rookies or high priced free agents.

My point is...if we are actually worried about people swooping in and taking our players, after just a couple months of no pads, what makes anybody believe teams will swoop in and take our sixth rounder when they have their own developmental QBs.

 

[Burnsie]

If you put him on the practice squad, he may not get the time with the coaches to develop properly. Especially with Sean Matt Cavanaugh being the QB coach. Players on the practice squad may be limited from sitting in the meetings, learning the offense, individual instruction, etc. You could delay their progress.

For other positions the practice squad may make more sense to add weight, get in better shape, heal an injury, etc. But QB is a much different set of intangibles.

It may not be related to what round he was taken in. Frankly I think putting draft picks on the practice squad just because they were drafted later on is not good policy. Or because another team may not want to swoop in and take them. You want to give them a roster spot if they have earned it, not just because of draft position.

 

[gkekoa]

If you put him on the practice squad, he may not get the time with the coaches to develop properly. Especially with Sean Matt Cavanaugh being the QB coach. Players on the practice squad may be limited from sitting in the meetings, learning the offense, individual instruction, etc. You could delay their progress.

For other positions the practice squad may make more sense to add weight, get in better shape, heal an injury, etc. But QB is a much different set of intangibles.

It may not be related to what round he was taken in. Frankly I think putting draft picks on the practice squad just because they were drafted later on is not good policy. Or because another team may not want to swoop in and take them. You want to give them a roster spot if they have earned it, not just because of draft position.

Don't get me wrong...I would personally like to keep him as the backup and cut McCoy. I don't think much of backup QBs that have never been any good with no upside.

 

[Burnsie]

The question is what is the best way to develop his skills to give him a chance to win the starting position in several years. If he is too young and has not learned the offense or had a chance to grow, you could permanently damage his development if pressed into service ahead of time. Imagine if KC goes down and you had cut McCoy. Sundfield would then be expected to lead the team in action way before he is ready. This could cause huge confidence problems which he may not recover. Plus it is not like they have a strong running game to lean on. Out of all the positions, QB is probably the position that requires the most patience and support around them. They have to recognize defenses, see the field, be ready for everything coming at them, make snap decisions, etc. It is such a mentally demanding position.

 

[gkekoa]

You just don't waste a roster position on a guy that realistically won't play a snap.

 

[skinsdad62]

Why would I not want to give scout team snaps to a 6th round pick ? My point is I seriously doubt anyone scoops him up with roster spots being valuable

 

[Burnsie]

You just don't waste a roster position on a guy that realistically won't play a snap.

That's your opinion. However if the coaches feel otherwise, I will trust them. I am not close enough to the situation or know how to develop QBs enough to know for sure. I am just presenting one theory why Jason Keim may have indicated the Redskins will keep three QBs on the roster.

 

[gkekoa]

That's your opinion. However if the coaches feel otherwise, I will trust them. I am not close enough to the situation or know how to develop QBs enough to know for sure. I am just presenting one theory why Jason Keim may have indicated the Redskins will keep three QBs on the roster.

I will trust the coaches too. I was simply disagreeing with Keim's logic after no pad camp.

There isn't a single way to develop a QB.

I am of the belief, if you are counting on your backup QB, a veteran who has failed everywhere as a starter, then you are screwed. So why not make it the rookie you think has potential as the backup?

 

[Burnsie]

I will trust the coaches too. I was simply disagreeing with Keim's logic after no pad camp.

There isn't a single way to develop a QB.

I am of the belief, if you are counting on your backup QB, a veteran who has failed everywhere as a starter, then you are screwed. So why not make it the rookie you think has potential as the backup?

I see your point and don't fully understand why they don't want to put him on the practice squad as well. However I wonder if he may be called upon next year if talks with KC fall apart.

According to the article below, the players on the practice squad do get to go to meetings with the team, etc. Although I wonder if running the other team's offenses during practice may mess with Sundfield's development.

The Practice Squad: The NFL's Unsung Mystery Men | The Football Girl - Because Women Love Football Too

It will be interesting to see what ultimately happens though as Keim could be wrong with his article.

 

[skinsdad62]

That's your opinion. However if the coaches feel otherwise, I will trust them. I am not close enough to the situation or know how to develop QBs enough to know for sure. I am just presenting one theory why Jason Keim may have indicated the Redskins will keep three QBs on the roster.

pundits are wrong on a lot of things this belief that so called experts are the end all be all on things is sheep driven, following the crowd BS , with the lack of independent thought being apparent i am not a sheep

show me where the coaches have indicated my view or anyone else's view is the right one ? they havent backed mine or yours and making any kind of choice before a preseason snap or TC snap has taken place is ludicrous to say the least

i like john kiem . but he has been wrong a time or 2 or 3 before

 

[Burnsie]

i like john kiem . but he has been wrong a time or 2 or 3 before

I didn't say the coaches or kiem were correct and I understand they have been wrong before. I just tried to give a theory as to why Sundfield may be on the 53 man roster and trying to look at it from their possible viewpoint. Not that I am an expert either or have any true insight. However all of these are just opinions and who knows what is truely the correct way to proceed with the situation.