Todd Davis

[58crash]

I agree Mingo ...The Key to winning the SB is Run the Football Stupid .. Lets hope our OL get's way better way faster than last year ..I am hoping for a healthier OL

 

[Draft Crazy]

I agree Mingo ...The Key to winning the SB is Run the Football Stupid .. Lets hope our OL get's way better way faster than last year ..I am hoping for a healthier OL

I think we found the key to winning SB was Defense. pass rush, pass rush, pass rush.

A good running game my keep us out of cardiac arrest however.

 

[58crash]

Well that was one lucky year . We are damn well blessed . I am talking controlling the game so that D does not get beat up late in the year . We put that D out on the field way to many plays last year .

 

[Draft Crazy]

Lucky?

You don't win a SB being lucky.

I will fix that for you.

It was one damn great year!

 

[cdumler7]

Lucky?

You don't win a SB being lucky.

I will fix that for you.

It was one damn great year!

I would say it was a mix of luck and talent. You don't win a Super Bowl without a few bounces going your way throughout the year and especially in the playoffs. At the same time you don't win a Super Bowl on luck alone either.

 

[58crash]

lucky the amount of snaps that D went though was to damn much . You lessen them this year we will be in a really good place to repeat as SB champs

 

[Draft Crazy]

I would say it was a mix of luck and talent. You don't win a Super Bowl without a few bounces going your way throughout the year and especially in the playoffs. At the same time you don't win a Super Bowl on luck alone either.

I'd say it is more talent then luck when winning a SB though.

Luck is part of the game.

Talent you have to have.

Luck can go either way, you can't really base luck off justification of winning a SB. Every team has a few bounces go their way, that is just part of the game, being in the right spot with the right bounce, etc.

You can have luck and not win a SB, you can't have a lack of talent and win a SB.

I've never seen a team play poor as an entire team and still win a SB because of pure luck. Luck can change a game or two a year, but it can't bring you a Super Bowl.

 

[Draft Crazy]

lucky the amount of snaps that D went though was to damn much . You lessen them this year we will be in a really good place to repeat as SB champs

I wouldn't call that luck. I'd call that a talented defense.

 

[randymon]

Don`t forget one of the,if not the most important element in going all the way, is the injury bug to key players and positions. Denver avoided that extremely well last yr.

 

[Dr Cyanide 28]

I would say it was a mix of luck and talent. You don't win a Super Bowl without a few bounces going your way throughout the year and especially in the playoffs. At the same time you don't win a Super Bowl on luck alone either.

exactly. just ask the ravens from a few years ago if luck had any role in them beating us and getting to the SB

 

[Dr Cyanide 28]

Luck and chance play huge roles in winning the sb. baltimore was lucky bill vinovich sucks ass as a ref, seattle was lucky we were missing 50% of our defense in the super bowl (and they were extremely healthy) and we were lucky the pats were so injured on the oline. Its a mixture of staying healthy through the year at key positions/players, talent and depth on the roster, and plain stupid luck

 

[Mingo]

Luck is the product of design - Vince Lombardi

Last year the product of design was on the Bronco's Defense. This year - the running game will produce luck and dividends (the defense being intact will help a lot).

 

[Dr Cyanide 28]

Luck is where preparation and talent combine. However, you can't say our overall health wasn't an anomaly last year. None of our key guys really missed time. That is part of the game though.

 

[Mingo]

Luck is where preparation and talent combine. However, you can't say our overall health wasn't an anomaly last year. None of our key guys really missed time. That is part of the game though.

It's when the injuries happen - because the Broncos actually lost two Left Tackles last season - and a key 3rd round pick (fortunately - those were early in the season - allowing the Broncos to scheme around and train people up to replace them.

 

[cdumler7]

Luck is where preparation and talent combine. However, you can't say our overall health wasn't an anomaly last year. None of our key guys really missed time. That is part of the game though.

Well some of them did miss time. DeMarcus Ware missed a good chunk of the season and I would say he was a big key player for us. Both of our starting safeties missed time. Wolfe missed 4 games not really because of injury. Depends if you count Manning or not.

Now thankfully all of them were healthy for our playoff run.

 

[Draft Crazy]

Luck plays a role in anything you do in life, just like Randy said, injury bug etc, but luck isn't the reason why you win a Super Bowl.

That is all I am saying.

You don't just get lucky and win a Super Bowl. You have to give credit where it is due.

Ravens SB example. Sure Rahim Moore flubbed up the bomb, but it wasn't like the Ravens got lucky on every single offensive TD, defensive stop. In sports you put yourself into a situation to allow luck to play a role in determining a game.

You don't play poor and get lucky and win.. Unless of course the other team plays poor an is unlucky.

You surely aint gonna win a SB playing poor and getting lucky. This game is too competitive and tough to get lucky and win a SB.

Did Joe Falcco get lucky and suddenly bomb a pass down the field? No, that is arm strength talent.

Lucky is winning the lottery.

Talent is winning a SB.

 

[Draft Crazy]

It's just like what any coach tells his team when playing a tougher opponent. You hang with them the first 3 quarters so you allow yourself to make a play late in the game to turn the game around.

You don't get lucky for 4 quarters and win a game. There are 4 quarters in a football game, you play well enough to hang with your opponent to put yourself in situation where something will change the game around.
While luck plays a role, it isn't the reason why you win a Super Bowl.

You actually have to play well to win. Injured or uninjured.

 

[cdumler7]

Luck plays a role in anything you do in life, just like Randy said, injury bug etc, but luck isn't the reason why you win a Super Bowl.

That is all I am saying.

You don't just get lucky and win a Super Bowl. You have to give credit where it is due.

Ravens SB example. Sure Rahim Moore flubbed up the bomb, but it wasn't like the Ravens got lucky on every single offensive TD, defensive stop. In sports you put yourself into a situation to allow luck to play a role in determining a game.

You don't play poor and get lucky and win.. Unless of course the other team plays poor an is unlucky.

You surely aint gonna win a SB playing poor and getting lucky. This game is too competitive and tough to get lucky and win a SB.

Did Joe Falcco get lucky and suddenly bomb a pass down the field? No, that is arm strength talent.

Lucky is winning the lottery.

Talent is winning a SB.

I honestly do think we are all saying something pretty similar. I agree Talent trumps that of Luck but I do think you have to have a couple things really go right in the playoffs with things so close in most of the games. Doesn't mean luck was the ONLY reason we won but I do think such as the Pittsburgh game where Roby caused a fumble. The team obviously trained him well in trying to get a hand on the ball and cause something to happen. That doesn't mean the ball has to bounce our way though once he punched it out. At the same time it is hustle to the ball that also helped us recover the fumble.

 

[Draft Crazy]

I don't think a lot of people understand how much the mental aspect and preparation has to do with winning a game either.

The little things that if you never played football a fan would never understand.

Imagine if you win a game, prepare for it, fight and claw for it. You aren't gonna say you got lucky to be where you are!

Luck is part of life. I wouldn't be in the job I am today if i wasn't applying for jobs when the job came up, so yeah obviously there is some luck in anything you do in life.

One could say we were lucky to get Bradley Roby, of course. There is no denying that luck occurs in football or anything you do in life, but why talk about it? You justify winning a SB because you beat your opponents, you played better then they did. If a ball is lose on the ground you put yourself in the position to recover it. You made some sort of play. There are going to be some bad calls by a ref, for sure, but everyteam has to fight through that adversity. It's not like any team hasn't had some luck go there way throughout the course of a game against us that we ended up winning. It's all about fighting through those things the adversity, the injuries, the distractions, playing as a team and finding a way to win as a team.

Don't ever tell a football player, team, coach they got lucky to win a single game. That is an OUT for the other team and a way to downplay what another team has accomplished. I HATE when someone uses the "luck" card.

Your team got lucky?

Oh yeah, well my team put themselves in position to be lucky.

Luck is in every day life so I don't see why people use it in justifying a sporting victory, championship season, etc.

I know I am sorta going in circles here and agreeing that luck does play a role, but I am trying to guide fans from using that thought process. Luck can be the weather, an injury, a call, a bounce, but everyone has those things happen to them throughout the course of the game, it's about preparing, fighting through those types of things such as; adversity, coaching, adjusting, execution, game planning and managing, talent, knowing our strengths and weaknesses and working with those to outplay our opponent and claw our way to victory... ... That's why we won a Super Bowl, not because of luck!

 

[Orange Crush77]

It's not luck when they do it week in and week out. It was a display of pure dominance despite the chips stacked against them. They created their opportunities and capitalized. That's talent and coaching pure and simple. If this offense can get off their asses this D could be even better. DT better do a cup check this offseason and earn his pay.