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JJ Watt and Rob Gronkowski are two prime examples why you lock up your premier players early like they should have done with Von.
Now Watt and Gronks' contract look like bargains.

Every day looks more and more like Elway got punked and reason for concerns unless his state of limbo is due to ownership's uncertainty.

Ppl make mistakes all the time in business. You just need to move on which Elway is doing.
 

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JJ Watt and Rob Gronkowski are two prime examples why you lock up your premier players early like they should have done with Von.
Now Watt and Gronks' contract look like bargains.

Every day looks more and more like Elway got punked and reason for concerns unless his state of limbo is due to ownership's uncertainty.

Ppl make mistakes all the time in business. You just need to move on which Elway is doing.

In fairness to Elway, Von became a FA the same year the cap turned up a decent amount.
 

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Crash, Totally get your point about not wanting 'retreads' but I see no other options. The way I see it Darian Stewart, Brandon Marshall and pot roast were retreads. You run just as much risk in the draft as in free agency but with these guys at least you have more film on them and sometimes you can get more out of a player with a new system, coach, city ...etc Now that doesn't necessarily mean you have to think they will turn things around though
 

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I am talking QB I want the real deal and am willing to pay for it . I get that players get the shaft all the time that is why I say if you are doing great with a team hold on for dear life ..

We need to Draft a QB Because this Staff has a clue in developing them .. I don't think this works with retread QB's . It has never to my memory turned around bad coaching ..help me out and change my mind ??????? I just don't remember a QB that sucked and warm got way better ??
 

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I don't think this works with retread QB's . It has never to my memory turned around bad coaching ..help me out and change my mind ??????? I just don't remember a QB that sucked and warm got way better ??


Kurt Warner ( twice ) and Steve Young are the first two that come to mind ...... and Randall Cunningham came back and had a monster season in Minnesota under Billick and Dennis Green
 

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Steve Young I will give you 100% thank you .. still not buying it with lazy ass people
 

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Sounds like Wilkerson to Bears trade never happened.
 

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John Unitas - Jack Kemp - George Blanda - were all retreads.
 

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Have 3 examples of QBs that are not dead?.

Drew Bledsoe, Drew Brees, Rich Gannon, Jeff Hostetlier, Jim Plunkett, Bret Favre, and Jim Kelly.

Frank Tripuka is not dead yet either - and he is in the Bronco's ring of fame.
 

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Drew Brees a good one
 

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Draft... Draft ... Draft ...
 

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Arizona's QB is for sure a Retread ..Carson Palmer .. so yes there are a few
 

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Drew Breese ? maybe what you would call a retread
 
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