bmitch calls for colt

[skinsdad62]

Brian Mitchell: 'Colt McCoy now deserves a chance'

here we go

 

[Caliskinsfan]

Part of this is a fan base that is exhausted with poor QB play.

Makes it easy to ignore the other things going wrong with this team at the moment.

 

[GNG]

Part of this is a fan base that is exhausted with poor QB play.

Makes it easy to ignore the other things going wrong with this team at the moment.

Tim Tebow is just a phone call away...

 

[Caliskinsfan]

Tim Tebow is just a phone call away...

You are a bad man

 

[GNG]

You are a bad man

Sorry about that...

 

[Dolemite censored]

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[Caliskinsfan]

I'm in the camp of Tarik's observations here...

EL-BASHIR: Remove emotion, and Redskins QB situation is obvious — www.csnmidatlantic.com — Readability


This year has always been about finding out if Cousins can be a productive starting quarterback in the NFL. And that shouldn’t change in Week 7 … after a loss on the road … to a better team … with six starters out of the lineup due to injury.

Those may sound like excuses. They’re not. They’re facts.

It might also sound like I’m building a case for Kirk Cousins. I’m not.

For all the good that Cousins has done—the game-winning drive against the Eagles, the cool and calm he showed late in forcing overtime against the Falcons—there have been plenty of excruciating miscues, too.

On Sunday, Cousins produced another one of those moments.

His third quarter pick against the Jets—the one Darrelle Revis snagged with the score tied 13-13—wasn’t just a poor throw, it was a poor decision. It gave the Jets’ offense a short field and changed the game’s momentum. It was also further proof that Cousins isn’t there yet as a game manager. Game managers mitigate risk—and, in retrospect, Cousins realizes that’s exactly what that situation required.

“The first interception was one where I need to throw it out of bounds,” Cousins said Monday morning during his weekly spot on 106.7 The Fan’s Grant and Danny show. “Nothing’s there. Didn’t have the opportunity to run. Just let the ball go out of bounds and play for the next play. Didn’t see Revis; he made a great play. And that was the one that really hurt us.”

That’s concerning to hear, particularly when you consider that poor passes and poor decisions at critical junctures are not a new problem for the 27-year-old fourth year player. His eight interceptions, in fact, are the third most in the NFL behind Peyton Manning’s 10 and Matthew Stafford’s nine. Dating to last season, Cousins has 17 interceptions in 432 pass attempts spread over 12 games.

Sure, every interception is its own entity, as Gruden and Cousins are fond of saying. But as the interceptions mount, so does the level of doubt that he’ll change.

I, for one, have become more skeptical that he will. And I suspect I’m not alone.

But this is not the time for a knee-jerk decision from a franchise known for knee-jerk decisions. This is not the time to entertain thoughts of benching Cousins and turning to Colt McCoy or Robert Griffin III in the hopes that one or the other could provide a spark against the similarly scuffling Buccaneers (2-3).

We already know what McCoy is. The 29-year-old is a competent backup.

As for Griffin, there are 16 million reasons to not put him on the field. Could you imagine the bind the Redskins would put themselves in if RG3 did suffer a significant injury and that $16 million option for 2016 became guaranteed?


That’s it. Those are the other options, folks.

I’ve said this before and I’ll say it again: Cousins may not be the answer. But there’s only one way to find out.

 

[Breed]

Bmitch's reasoning is sound imo.

 

[JonBlaze]

While in normal circumstances, a NFL team should look to the backup for a spark, I think this is not normal circumstances. The most talented QB is the 3rd string one and there are 16 million reasons why he will never get into a game this season. They just can't afford to. Cousins, as his supporters like to point out, is still young in terms of games started. It makes no sense to move to Colt as he is not and should not be considered part of any long term plan. They need to find out this year what they have in Cousins. So far it's playing out like how many though, he's JAG and a turnover machine. But he's also shown some improvement at times. Yanking him now accomplishes nothing for the Skins long term outlook.

I know they have to sell they're trying to compete and putting out the best team possible every Sunday, but let's be real. This season is basically toast thanks to injuries and many other reasons. It's evaluation time, not throw a hail mary with Colt fricken McCoy time.

 

[skinsdad62]

Bmitch's reasoning is sound imo.

it would be sound if we were a playoff team or had the chance to be this all goes back to people saying we are a rebuilding team but not really believing it

KC may not be the future here . i get that however we need to see if he can play through this . we arent going anywhere this season

 

[Stymietee]

Brian Mitchell: 'Colt McCoy now deserves a chance'

here we go

In context......and that's what important here.......context, this makes perfectly good sense. No one is saying to not start Kirk in the next game, but that when he's struggling like a pitcher in baseball does, bring in the relief guy. In this case McCoy for that game.

 

[skinsdad62]

In context......and that's what important here.......context, this makes perfectly good sense. No one is saying to not start Kirk in the next game, but that when he's struggling like a pitcher in baseball does, bring in the relief guy. In this case McCoy for that game.

well i guess you could do that but here in DC ? and what does that say to KC ? what if we did that to 3sus ? i feel you have to ride this out

my feelings on KC is he looks to be a 15 year BU guy and spot starter . however i am willing to wait and see how playing time and learning work out

 

[Breed]

it would be sound if we were a playoff team or had the chance to be this all goes back to people saying we are a rebuilding team but not really believing it

KC may not be the future here . i get that however we need to see if he can play through this . we arent going anywhere this season

Its sound for as he stated. He roots for the Burgundy n Gold. I'm not advocating that Colt actually starts. Like Blaze pretty much said said. He's a known quantity. I'd be lying right now if I said I was optimistic about Kirk at this present time, but he should continue to start. And if Kirk's horrid playing ass is allowed to keep playing. We may as well get Rashard Ross out there in the WR rotation. I'd like to see Ross in both Djax's spot as well as the slot.

 

[Stymietee]

well i guess you could do that but here in DC ? and what does that say to KC ? what if we did that to 3sus ? i feel you have to ride this out

my feelings on KC is he looks to be a 15 year BU guy and spot starter . however i am willing to wait and see how playing time and learning work out

What does it say to KC???? Seriously?, this is grown man stuff, so it says "you're not on your game today, we'll try again next week." (That's the PG version).

 

[Buffalo_Nickel_1]

cousin'would be a star in any othe system he sucks in a gruden system because gruden sucks and everybody sucks under a gruden system

 

[Darrell Green Fan]

cousin'would be a star in any othe system he sucks in a gruden system because gruden sucks and everybody sucks under a gruden system

Cousins would throw a pick in the perfect system playing against guys I went to high school with in 1977.

I hear what Mitch is saying, we all know at this point Colt does give them the best chance to win on Sunday. Gruden risks losing the locker room should they continue to lose with Kirk. But as posted this year is about finding out, not winning one more game in a lost season.

 

[SoCalWizFan]

cousin'would be a star in any othe system he sucks in a gruden system because gruden sucks and everybody sucks under a gruden system

You honestly believe that? Does a system cause a QB to make poor decisions and throw very ill advised passes? Does a system cause a QB to be way off target on his throws? Get real. For starters this guy was a 4th round draft pick so obviously many teams did not believe that he would ever be a star.

At this pt I am fine with Cousins starting as many games as possible this season. However - he just appears to be a lost cause at this time. I am not buying the whole "he is inexperienced in terms of starts" argument. He is 27 yrs old, has had 4 offseasons and the complete backing of the team & coaching staff. That argument is getting very old. Most likely he is what he is which includes a good feel for the position along w/ inaccuracy and the inevitable mistakes at least every other game.

There are a lot of factors at work in the Redskins losses, but Cousins has to bear a lot of the blame along with Gruden. I wish the best for both of them but have pretty much lost faith at this time.

 

[Darrell Green Fan]

Here are excerpt from a linked article that shows exactly what I've been talking about. Kirk may figure out the INT problem but I doubt it seeing as he is playing in an easy system designed to eliminate mistakes. But he will never improve his #1 problem, he can't hit an open guy downfield.




Pointing to Cousins' improving interceptable pass rate as potential development would be foolish. Not only is he still throwing the ball to defenders at an outrageous rate, but he is doing so while playing in a cautious, simplistic offense.


Through six games this year, Cousins has thrown 228 passes for 1,420 yards, six touchdowns and eight interceptions. Once again, those numbers flatter him.

Credit: NFL.com
In the above chart, all of Cousins' pass attempts this season have been charted except for spikes, intentional throwaways and miscommunications. The chart doesn't track completions and incompletions; it doesn't track catchable or uncatchable passes. It considers ball placement.


Every green tick is an accurate pass, and every red cross is an inaccurate pass.


As the chart shows, Cousins can't throw the ball down the field. He throws an abnormal percentage of his pass attempts within five yards of the line of scrimmage. The offense is unusually based on throwing the ball within five yards of the line of scrimmage and outside of the numbers.


These are typically throws to receivers running curl routes or receivers running out from inside alignments. As such, they are safer throws from the quarterback. Gruden does a good job of creating quick throws for Cousins with his route combinations, but those throws typically gain very few yards.

Jay Gruden's Commitment to Kirk Cousins Will Get Him Fired | Bleacher Report

 

[ehb5]

Here are excerpt from a linked article that shows exactly what I've been talking about. Kirk may figure out the INT problem but I doubt it seeing as he is playing in an easy system designed to eliminate mistakes. But he will never improve his #1 problem, he can't hit an open guy downfield.




Pointing to Cousins' improving interceptable pass rate as potential development would be foolish. Not only is he still throwing the ball to defenders at an outrageous rate, but he is doing so while playing in a cautious, simplistic offense.


Through six games this year, Cousins has thrown 228 passes for 1,420 yards, six touchdowns and eight interceptions. Once again, those numbers flatter him.

View attachment 42297 Credit: NFL.com
In the above chart, all of Cousins' pass attempts this season have been charted except for spikes, intentional throwaways and miscommunications. The chart doesn't track completions and incompletions; it doesn't track catchable or uncatchable passes. It considers ball placement.


Every green tick is an accurate pass, and every red cross is an inaccurate pass.


As the chart shows, Cousins can't throw the ball down the field. He throws an abnormal percentage of his pass attempts within five yards of the line of scrimmage. The offense is unusually based on throwing the ball within five yards of the line of scrimmage and outside of the numbers.


These are typically throws to receivers running curl routes or receivers running out from inside alignments. As such, they are safer throws from the quarterback. Gruden does a good job of creating quick throws for Cousins with his route combinations, but those throws typically gain very few yards.

Jay Gruden's Commitment to Kirk Cousins Will Get Him Fired | Bleacher Report

I'm really not convinced he's any better than Griffin. Granted there's 16 million reasons why we shouldn't go there but still. The difference in coverage and judgement of the 2 is startling.

 

[j_y19]

It's ironic that Griffins contract is actually screwing him from playing. Part of me wonders if he wouldn't be smart to go to the team and offer to renegotiate to a more friendly contract that would get him on the field.