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WK 5 USA Today Coaches' Poll

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Whatever, that is your opinion, but Ohio State hasn't lost a game this year and IMO they should be ranked #1 until they lose a game.

That's terrible. Do you at the same time complain about preseason polls?

If you want to rank Ohio St #1 it should be because despite their troubles they are still winning and they are still the Big10's best chance to make the playoffs. They are loaded with talent and they will most likely improve as the year goes on, the same as last year. Their schedule is favorable for these rough times.

It should be the future that keeps them #1 if anything, not the past.
 

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And?

Sooner or later you are just going to have to accept that Alabama is most likely going to the playoffs. And if you don't like that, you better start becoming an LSU, Texas A&M, Miss St, Tennessee, Arkansas or Auburn fan and pray they prevent it.

If 1 bad game is all Alabama has all year long, I'll take that.
You're right if Bama can win out, then they could go to the playoffs. I have no problems with that.
 

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Whatever, that is your opinion, but Ohio State hasn't lose a game this year and IMO they should be ranked #1 until they lose a game.
See - polls are tricky. Ranking teams is tricky. The variables you look at for one team are going to be different than the variables you look at for another team, because no two teams are the same. And what makes teams good is never the same. That's why it's important to have a multitude of opinions in order to see patterns emerge. It's certainly possible that people will disagree with my opinions, but that's all part of the process.
 

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Im not a fan of OSU being #1. They have one of the weakest schedules in college football and almost lost 2-3 games already but like the saying goes u have to beat the champ to be #1. They haven't lost so I understand it. In my opinion I have them at #3 if they didn't win it last year.

They haven't played like a #1 team this year. I think once they play some good teams they might be in trouble.
They have not "almost lost" even one game. They haven't looked good but this isn't FSU where they were pulling rabbits out of hats at the end of games to win.

JMHO.

Oh, and it's fine by me if they drop in the polls that mean nothing in the grand scheme of things.

If they keep winning, beat MSU and UM and win the B1G, they will be in the CFP. If they stumble, they won't. That's how this should and will work.

Until then . . .

:suds:
 

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See - polls are tricky. Ranking teams is tricky. The variables you look at for one team are going to be different than the variables you look at for another team, because no two teams are the same. And what makes teams good is never the same. That's why it's important to have a multitude of opinions in order to see patterns emerge. It's certainly possible that people will disagree with my opinions, but that's all part of the process.
Yep, it's all part of the process.
 

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Alabama is most likely going to the playoffs.

If Bama wins the SEC and only has one loss they are going to the playoffs. Might even go winning the SEC and having two losses...depending on what else happens around the country. Same for LSU, Ole Miss, A&M or even Florida.
 

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That's terrible. Do you at the same time complain about preseason polls?

If you want to rank Ohio St #1 it should be because despite their troubles they are still winning and they are still the Big10's best chance to make the playoffs. They are loaded with talent and they will most likely improve as the year goes on, the same as last year. Their schedule is favorable for these rough times.

It should be the future that keeps them #1 if anything, not the past.
I have no problem with your comment. IMO, if Ohio State wins out, they will be the #1 team in the nation, come playoff time.
 

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I have no problem with your comment. IMO, if Ohio State wins out, they will be the #1 team in the nation, come playoff time.
Although - under similar conditions, Florida State was the #3 seed going into the playoff. If Ohio State continues to play as they have, but manage to win a lot of close games, the Buckeyes will probably see a similar fate.
 

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Although - under similar conditions, Florida State was the #3 seed going into the playoff. If Ohio State continues to play as they have, but manage to win a lot of close games, the Buckeyes will probably see a similar fate.
Maybe!!!
 

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Don't understand how anyone can
keep Ohio state #1. Top 5, sure. Not #1 though.

Well they have the longest winning streak in college football as of today. Aaaaaaaand they are the undisputed College Football National Champions. Until someone beats them they won't fall.
Trust me the truth hurts me too. But until then we just need to shut up and hope someone can beat them.
 

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Well they have the longest winning streak in college football as of today. Aaaaaaaand they are the undisputed College Football National Champions. Until someone beats them they won't fall.
Trust me the truth hurts me too. But until then we just need to shut up and hope someone can beat them.
Mississippi State jumped defending National Champion Florida State last year in week 8.

These are different times friend.
 

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I said this earlier in this thread. IMO, no way in hell should Bama be ranked ahead of Ole Miss, as they beat Bama, in Bama's back yard. By the way Ole Miss didn't beat Florida.
am I missing something here?
 

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Definitely was surprised to see we were ranked, I know we're a different team than the one that lost to BYU(I don't even know what that team was) but our resume is worse than that of Memphis, Toledo, and Temple who are all ranked behind us.
 

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Definitely was surprised to see we were ranked, I know we're a different team than the one that lost to BYU(I don't even know what that team was) but our resume is worse than that of Memphis, Toledo, and Temple who are all ranked behind us.
It is true that history is taken into account and it is a bit of a beauty contest at this point. Like you, I have no issues if Memphis, Toledo, Temple or Houston were ranked above us at this point, zero loses should matter. But these guys are basing there rankings on who they "think" is the best once you get past the first few teams. That said, I don't think Memphis, Toledo, Temple or Houston beats Boise State more than one out of ten times if they played 10.
 

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It is true that history is taken into account and it is a bit of a beauty contest at this point. Like you, I have no issues if Memphis, Toledo, Temple or Houston were ranked above us at this point, zero loses should matter. But these guys are basing there rankings on who they "think" is the best once you get past the first few teams. That said, I don't think Memphis, Toledo, Temple or Houston beats Boise State more than one out of ten times if they played 10.

They would beat us two out of 10, those being the first two attempts before we realize Rypien is a better QB than Finley :L
 

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I've always had trouble that beauty contest rules pick the best teams. I'd rather have a system where the conference champs and 3 wild cards get in and play it out. But it would put sports forums like this out of business, such a set up is too simple.

As for Boise, they've looked invincible the last 3 weeks under Rypien, but I can accept that the competition wasn't the best. Still, clocking 50+ every seek isn't anything to ignore, especially when the defense is stone cold stingy.

I don't know if Boise would beat the other top teams in the group of 5 or not, better to let them play, but Boise hasn't lost to any team in those other conferences lately. Boise got penalized for not being a "beauty" in the past, now they get rewarded for it's previous big wins. Not fair, but it's the way the system works.
 
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