Brady under pressure

[NEPatsfan]

"Jealous" puhlease.

Minus cheating, you have shit to be jealous of.

Troll Pats fans and drive traffic. Check!

 

[jarntt]

yeah, bang bang play I initially thought they were going to call PI on Butler but they both hit each other at the same time. I am also not saying Butler is the Next Revis or anything like that, just saying for a rookie that was one hell of a read regardless of how many times he "practiced" it.

Hopefully BB will do something, he will be used differently imo now that Revis isn't there.

If it was the only play I'd say, or it could just be total luck. But, didn't he have 3 big plays in the SB? So yeah, there could be something there, but i agree to expect him to be anything like Revis is nuts. Pats secondary will take a big drop this year. Time will tell if it effects their overall record or not.

 

[jarntt]

honestly that was not a bad throw by Wilson just one hell of a break on the ball by Butler

Not a bad "throw", but a horrible "decision" in that particular situation

 

[jarntt]

This stat is actually very surprising to me. Anyone know what it is for his career? Brady was always known as a guy that will kill you if you blitz him. At this point in his career, maybe that has changed and teams should be blitzing him more???

 

[redseat]

Not a bad "throw", but a horrible "decision" in that particular situation

Not really. everyone in the stadium was expecting the run by Lynch

 

[redseat]

If it was the only play I'd say, or it could just be total luck. But, didn't he have 3 big plays in the SB? So yeah, there could be something there, but i agree to expect him to be anything like Revis is nuts. Pats secondary will take a big drop this year. Time will tell if it effects their overall record or not.

Yeah it wasn't luck, he just broke at the right time as he saw the play and reacted. Yes he did make some other good plays during the SB as well.

 

[jarntt]

Not really. everyone in the stadium was expecting the run by Lynch

I'm not referring to the play call even though I think that was a poor decision. I am referring to Wilson throwing the ball. In that situation you need to "know" it's going to be a TD or you don't throw it or just chuck it out of the back of the end zone. Live to see another play...

 

[NWPATSFAN]

It was a horrible throw. That throw has to be low where there is no shot at an interception. He had a lazy drop back which caused him to throw off his back foot and the ball sailed. I'm not saying Butler didn't make a nice play (he did), but he would never have picked that ball off if the throw was where it needed to be.

Which throw was worse? The one that ended tbe Ravens season or the RW int?

 

[Money]

Which throw was worse? The one that ended tbe Ravens season or the RW int?

Apples and oranges. Two completely different throws. Flacco was simply taking a deep shot to our former WR. That ball should never have been intercepted. Torrey was simply too soft on that play. If the throw was to Steve Smith, I 100% guarantee that interception never happens and we move on to 3rd and 5 (or maybe 2nd and 15).

 

[redseat]

I'm not referring to the play call even though I think that was a poor decision. I am referring to Wilson throwing the ball. In that situation you need to "know" it's going to be a TD or you don't throw it or just chuck it out of the back of the end zone. Live to see another play...

again, I don't fault Wilson at all. He saw him open and threw the ball. He didn't know Butler would jump the route..

 

[NWPATSFAN]

Apples and oranges. Two completely different throws. Flacco was simply taking a deep shot to our former WR. That ball should never have been intercepted. Torrey was simply too soft on that play. If the throw was to Steve Smith, I 100% guarantee that interception never happens and we move on to 3rd and 5 (or maybe 2nd and 15).

Apples and oranges, same outcome. Amazing the way you try and rationalize a terrible throw.

 

[Money]

Apples and oranges, same outcome. Amazing the way you try and rationalize a terrible throw.

Flacco absolutely has had his share of terrible throws, but that wasn't one of them. I'm not saying it was a great throw, but Torrey's effort needed to be stronger there.

 

[NWPATSFAN]

Flacco absolutely has had his share of terrible throws, but that wasn't one of them. I'm not saying it was a great throw, but Torrey's effort needed to be stronger there.

Torrey's effort could've been stronger. So could've Lockette in the SB. Rodney Harrison could've interfered with Tyre instead of just yanking his arm. Harbaugh could've called a timeout instead of taking a penalty. Flacco could've thrown a halfway decent ball. But none of these happened.
What did happen was NE went on to win SB 49.

 

[Money]

Torrey's effort could've been stronger. So could've Lockette in the SB. Rodney Harrison could've interfered with Tyre instead of just yanking his arm. Harbaugh could've called a timeout instead of taking a penalty. Flacco could've thrown a halfway decent ball. But none of these happened.
What did happen was NE went on to win SB 49.

That's all great. I don't understand where you are going with this (except the obvious trolling).

 

[NWPATSFAN]

That's all great. I don't understand where you are going with this (except the obvious trolling).

Where I was going was how you and Tgann repeatedly tell everyone how great Flacco is. You call out Wilson for a terrible throw. Yet defend Facco's terrible throw. Sure evetually you admit it wasn't the best throw. Blame the receiver...you and your brother are two of the biggest hypocrites on this board. That's where I was going. If that's trolling to you, so be it. At least you occasionally bring substantiated facts to the conversation. Your brother not so much.

 

[Money]

Where I was going was how you and Tgann repeatedly tell everyone how great Flacco is. You call out Wilson for a terrible throw. Yet defend Facco's terrible throw. Sure evetually you admit it wasn't the best throw. Blame the receiver...you and your brother are two of the biggest hypocrites on this board. That's where I was going. If that's trolling to you, so be it. At least you occasionally bring substantiated facts to the conversation. Your brother not so much.

Yes, I said one throw of Wilson's was terrible (it was). This doesn't mean I don't like him as a QB (I do). I never go around and tell people "how great Flacco is". You have me confused with others when it comes to that. I definitely do defend him on here at times. I'm very happy he is the QB of the Ravens, but I don't think he is "elite" or ever will be "elite". I don't even think he's the best QB in their division. I do think he's pretty freakin' clutch though.

 

[NWPATSFAN]

Yes, I said one throw of Wilson's was terrible (it was). This doesn't mean I don't like him as a QB (I do). I never go around and tell people "how great Flacco is". You have me confused with others when it comes to that. I definitely do defend him on here at times. I'm very happy he is the QB of the Ravens, but I don't think he is "elite" or ever will be "elite". I don't even think he's the best QB in their division. I do think he's pretty freakin' clutch though.

Fair enough. I don't want to argue semantics. Again I do give you credit for brining facts not just bs. We're onto Pittsburgh. It can't come soon enough.

 

[eaglesnut]

This stat is actually very surprising to me. Anyone know what it is for his career? Brady was always known as a guy that will kill you if you blitz him. At this point in his career, maybe that has changed and teams should be blitzing him more???

That's probably one of the things that contribute to this stat. When he does get pressured there are less places to go with the football because their are more defenders in coverage. But the raw data wasn't given, only the lame end statistic.

 

[eaglesnut]

again, I don't fault Wilson at all. He saw him open and threw the ball. He didn't know Butler would jump the route..

The QBs job is to know where the defenders are. He's already supposed to know where his players are, he knows the play. That's one major trait that separates the truly great from the average.

 

[redseat]

The QBs job is to know where the defenders are. He's already supposed to know where his players are, he knows the play. That's one major trait that separates the truly great from the average.

Was Butler in his eye sight when he let go of the ball? I don't think so... He couldn't have known for sure that Butler would make the break he did. Not to mention when you are on the 1 yard line during the SB with 20 seconds left and you have a "wide open" receiver going in for the winning score you throw the ball and think nothing bad will happen.