Series Thread: Golden State Warriors vs. Cleveland Cavaliers NBA Finals Thread

[TurnUpTheHeat]

I've followed a few of your posts here so pardon me if I have targeted you wrong, but I think you have to give credit where do here.

How this Cavs team would've fared against the '14 Spurs has some meaning I guess, but this is the same GS team that won 60+ games, and have looked good doing it....bottomline...they have not played that great against the Cavs in ANY series game yet...pressure of the series I'm sure is playing a part, but the Cavs have to get some credit...no one expected them to be up 2-1 with the guys playing key roles for them.

AND I HAVE GIVEN THEM ALL OF THE CREDIT DUE IN THE WORLD.

I only brought up the Spurs because Wiggy said James was playing his best ball ever, which simply isn't true.
I guess he made his comment based on the 2-1 Cavs lead.
Like I said, James would have no 2-1 lead against what we saw from last years Spurs.
If they were down 3-0 or 2-1, would anyone say James was at his best ever or would they say he is just doing anything he possibly can to try to carry an average rest of roster?

 

[purguy12]

GS-Bogut, Green and Barnes needs to wake up for GS to have a shot here. Lee needs to play more.
Cavs- They need to Finish 4th Q better and keep playing team basketball. Game 3 was the best I saw LBJ and the cavs play in this series. LBJ can play with more energy when he has his role players scoring and helping out.

 

[ATL96Steeler]

AND I HAVE GIVEN THEM ALL OF THE CREDIT DUE IN THE WORLD.

I only brought up the Spurs because Wiggy said James was playing his best ball ever, which simply isn't true.
I guess he made his comment based on the 2-1 Cavs lead.
Like I said, James would have no 2-1 lead against what we saw from last years Spurs.
If they were down 3-0 or 2-1, would anyone say James was at his best ever or would they say he is just doing anything he possibly can to try to carry an average rest of roster?

Statistically LBJ may not be playing as well % wise, but in terms of the results...this is probably his best effort to carry a team even if they were 0-3...the fact they are 2-1 with this cast of teammates adds shine to it..most definitely.

 

[TurnUpTheHeat]

Statistically LBJ may not be playing as well % wise, but in terms of the results...this is probably his best effort to carry a team even if they were 0-3...the fact they are 2-1 with this cast of teammates adds shine to it..most definitely.

So, not playing as well to me certainly translates into not 'playing his best ball of all time'.

Best effort also does not translate into 'playing his best ball of all time'.

 

[Across The Field]

How was that slide tackle from lebron on Curry not called? Since when are you allowed to just run up and take someone down from behind?

I agree that should've been called a foul.

Looking at it closely, though, its not as bad as it looked live. Curry actually starts to lose the ball... then LeBron gets the clean deflection... but then he slips and undercuts Curry... to me that's a loose ball foul.


Here's a slow motion replay of it

I know the Refs have been terrible and missed way too many calls, but its the end of the game. Thats a call that has to be made. it wasnt a small foul that you might have missed. Lebron just slid in and took Curry out.

I dont like the Cavs, but even i was pissed when they ruled the ball to go to the Warrior on the out of bounds call with Delly and Klay. Im glad they finally decided to review it and reverse the call. It just shows tho how awful these refs have been.

Watch that nice replay video gordon posted. He didn't "slide in and take Curry out", he very clearly was running over to help and tried to stop and his feet slid out from underneath him.

 

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[purguy12]

So, not playing as well to me certainly translates into not 'playing his best ball of all time'.

Best effort also does not translate into 'playing his best ball of all time'.

I agree he isn't playing his best but he is leading and carrying a team the best. He is struggling late in games and his % is not great.

 

[Texas Jefe]

Just listened to Chauncy Billups interview, he made good points: He says GS is playing these games like regular season games-just ho hum, no biggie, behind the back passes, etc. Reason is because they dont have any players with NBA Finals experience on the team.

Like he said, it's the NBA Finals- it's time to give everything you have every moment. Example he used was Mike Miller, who is a walking infirmary. He comes in the game, and within a minute he's diving and laying out on the floor to tip a ball inbounds to a teammate. Just experience in a Finals, has the whole vibe and knows what it takes. Other examples on that roster as well.

 

[Heatles84]

The Warriors being down 2-1 has a lot to do with Kerr. We've been hearing about his prolific offense and the number of great offensive sets that he has. But now's the time to adjust, and I haven't seen one adjustment from Kerr with his sets since game 1. Bogut, Green, and Barnes need to step the hell up.This is where a coach needs to light a fire under his team. Because Cleveland is certainly playing far more hungrier than the Cavs.

 

[Shanemansj13]

The Warriors being down 2-1 has a lot to do with Kerr. We've been hearing about his prolific offense and the number of great offensive sets that he has. But now's the time to adjust, and I haven't seen one adjustment from Kerr with his sets since game 1. Bogut, Green, and Barnes need to step the hell up.This is where a coach needs to light a fire under his team. Because Cleveland is certainly playing far more hungrier than the Cavs.

The 15 million dollar man isnt an adjustment lol

 

[Montalban]

At least it looked like Curry woke up in the last quarter and a half. That makes me feel a little better about Thursday.

 

[Heatles84]

The 15 million dollar man isnt an adjustment lol

I agree, I always found it a knock on Kerr that David Lee has been non-existent this season/playoffs because he doesn't fit into Kerr's offense. A good coach would know how to implement a talent like his somehow. Plus, the Warriors are getting away from what was working during the playoffs. Their offense was near that of the Spurs, instead, that ball is sitting idle and not moving. With the minutes Lebron's playing, he should be absolutely gassed by the 4th quarter like he was last season against the Spurs. When one of the Warrirors players are open, they miss a wide open shot.

Kobe said it best on twitter (saw it on ESPN). Cavs are playing for their lives, Warriors are playing like they'll be here next year.

 

[Montalban]

The Warriors being down 2-1 has a lot to do with Kerr. We've been hearing about his prolific offense and the number of great offensive sets that he has. But now's the time to adjust, and I haven't seen one adjustment from Kerr with his sets since game 1. Bogut, Green, and Barnes need to step the hell up.This is where a coach needs to light a fire under his team. Because Cleveland is certainly playing far more hungrier than the Cavs.

I was thinking the same thing but what can you do when the players can't hit a shot?

 

[Heatles84]

I was thinking the same thing but what can you do when the players can't hit a shot?

Change the offensive sets for one. Start having more cuts into the lane. It's all a mental thing right now. All of a sudden, Harrison Barnes and Draymond Green can't hit a 3-point shot to save their lives when they were so deadly in the first 3 rounds of the playoffs. This is where a coach needs to calm his team down, but at the same time get them motivated. Which is not something I've yet to see Kerr do.

 

[gohusk]

I was thinking the same thing but what can you do when the players can't hit a shot?

Play Lee on the pick and roll because he can actually roll. The second they brought him in the game things turned around for the Warriors. They're having problems on offense and he's the best offensive inside player they have. Once they stop trapping high on the pick other things will open up.

 

[purguy12]

Della being dirty again. This time it was bad. Green sets a hard stoppage screen and Della goes for the knees. Green could of got hurt. some one is going to hurt Della.

Did Matthew Dellavedova take a cheap shot at Draymond Greens knees? | For The Win

https://mtc.cdn.vine.co/r/videos/B1...p4?versionId=CgOrLkNnVMRRkCjqzabQtJpHpaI51lVO

 

[Across The Field]

This series is demonstrating something I said before it even started - The Warriors are a really good matchup for the Cavs. They have little to no post-scoring potential, and we play elite wing defense. There's a reason the Cavs have led for the overwhelming majority of the series thusfar.

 

[purguy12]

It was nice to see Kerr make adjustments. Lee needs to play more and Iggy needs to start for barnes. Get let LBJ get hot from the start. Barnes has not made shots and has let LBJ just walk into lay ups.

 

[purguy12]

Well we will find out if Curry and GS have an Heart of a Champion. As of right now it seems like they don't want it. Cavs role players now feel confidence that they can win this. GS might be in trouble tomorrow. They need a win in a bad way.

 

[Kold]

Still feel the same way I felt before. For like of a better comparison, GS has to let Lebron play like Kobe/Jordan.....the only problem is that he's volume shooting WHILE playing like a point guard all at the same time. GS is cooked if they're gonna let Delly and others make the contributions that they've made as well. Another thing is, GS looks like themselves when the roll man in the pick and roll actually does something. I have no idea why Draymond Green rolling straight to the goal to go up against a bigger Mozgov. He should be pulling up for jumpers every time, because they are giving it to him. David Lee should get some more minutes, but not too much imo as Lebron would torch him in a pick and roll.