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Mock drafts. Narrowing it down.

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Getting Williams at 5 would be awesome. Won't happen but it was be tremendous.

I agree. One of the few that I would take and not try and trade the pick. Unfortunately he is not going to be there at 5.
 

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I agree. One of the few that I would take and not try and trade the pick. Unfortunately he is not going to be there at 5.

back in the day when long haired humanoids roamed the espn board we were told that no way brian orakpo would fall to us at 13 . then poof , he is there and we select him .

it isnt beyond the realm of possibility that williams will be there for us . the 2 qbs come off the board with the 1st 2 picks then you get jax and they feel that cooper is the BPA and select him .

the raiders come up and say boy wouldnt an edge rusher like ray or gregory fit us better then williams and presto williams is there

now i understand not counting on that but all the teams above us have a lot of holes too so perhaps williams could sneak down to us

keep hope alive my friend and my new motto , less mean in 15 :suds:
 

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back in the day when long haired humanoids roamed the espn board we were told that no way brian orakpo would fall to us at 13 . then poof , he is there and we select him .

it isnt beyond the realm of possibility that williams will be there for us . the 2 qbs come off the board with the 1st 2 picks then you get jax and they feel that cooper is the BPA and select him .

the raiders come up and say boy wouldnt an edge rusher like ray or gregory fit us better then williams and presto williams is there

now i understand not counting on that but all the teams above us have a lot of holes too so perhaps williams could sneak down to us

keep hope alive my friend and my new motto , less mean in 15 :suds:

I've seen stranger things happen, especially with Oakland picking ahead of us. You never know what they are going to do. If Williams is there at 5, we should sprint to the podium to make that pick. In fact, we need D. Green back to submit the pick for us just because he is still so fast.
 

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shoot, an nfl.com mock draft has us landing Williams at 5, so its possible. Really I don't see how Mariota went from being compared to Aaron Rogers to no longer being a top 5 guy. I'd be surprised if his pro day doesn't put him back up there or get another team to trade up for Tennessee's 2nd.
 

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2015 NFL Mock Draft No. 1: Marcus Mariota, Jameis Winston go 1-2 - CBSSports.com

Not sure I buy Kirwan's logic on if Rak is resigned we draft a Tackle. Does that fall away from taking the best player available period? If Kirwan thinks Gregory is the best available player he should not hedge his bet. Scot has said he is not drafting for need.

I am not blown away by Gregory, but real talent evaluators can project his success on the next level.
 

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what if Mariota and Williams falls to us at 5 and the Jets want him at 6 I would try swapping and picking up a 2nd or 3rd rounder and still land Williams
 

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2015 NFL Mock Draft No. 1: Marcus Mariota, Jameis Winston go 1-2 - CBSSports.com

Not sure I buy Kirwan's logic on if Rak is resigned we draft a Tackle. Does that fall away from taking the best player available period? If Kirwan thinks Gregory is the best available player he should not hedge his bet. Scot has said he is not drafting for need.

I am not blown away by Gregory, but real talent evaluators can project his success on the next level.

Shane Ray falling completely out of the first round? WTF???

Gregory is intriguing but he just looks so small to me. But he has speed and you gotta love a defense with speed.
 

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I'm not so sure about ray at 5. He is not big at all for a 3-4 Olb. He is only 6'2" and 240 lbs. so there is not much room to grow. If he's the BPA at 5, I'd still try and trade back.

I find it strange that McShay would give us a guy he has not studied
 

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I find it strange that McShay would give us a guy he has not studied

that is why i would dismiss it out of hand . you are selling me on a pick , as an expert , who you havent looked at ? . the size of ray doesnt bother me if he is fast and has pass rush moves however i would take gregory over him at this point
 

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Just a thought........maybe he like too many others, views Washington as an afterthought, unworthy of much consideration or at best not deserving of a player that could help the team.
 

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Just a thought........maybe he like too many others, views Washington as an afterthought, unworthy of much consideration or at best not deserving of a player that could help the team.

well you can excuse his crap if you want to . the fact is he is a draft "expert " and hence he needs to show the professionalism to know what the heck he is talking about

if that is your standard then so be it but i will dismiss his guesses until he shows me he cares about the product he puts out
 

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well you can excuse his crap if you want to . the fact is he is a draft "expert " and hence he needs to show the professionalism to know what the heck he is talking about

if that is your standard then so be it but i will dismiss his guesses until he shows me he cares about the product he puts out

It amazes me that some people can't bring themselves to the point where they understand that there are draft "experts" prognosticators, people who know and have played the game, reporters pundits and current insiders that make statements contrary to what fans of this team want to hear.

By the way I never mentioned anything about what he produced, just gave an unmentioned alternative as to why he might have felt a need to publish what he did. Call it an excuse if that makes you feel better, but it is far better explanation than anything that anyone else has offered as to why he would do this without studying.
 

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I do a lot of free lance movie reviews for online sites. I just wrote a pretty good review of American Sniper.

Next week I"m going to go see the movie.
 

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It amazes me that some people can't bring themselves to the point where they understand that there are draft "experts" prognosticators, people who know and have played the game, reporters pundits and current insiders that make statements contrary to what fans of this team want to hear.

By the way I never mentioned anything about what he produced, just gave an unmentioned alternative as to why he might have felt a need to publish what he did. Call it an excuse if that makes you feel better, but it is far better explanation than anything that anyone else has offered as to why he would do this without studying.

ok stymie , perhaps you will attache your name to a piece of work that you didnt really research and claim that as your work which is what mcshay did

but i will never attache my name to an incomplete product and say "thats the best i can do "

that is a huge issue in this country , people want to excuse , find a reason or apologize for peoples half ass work . i shouldnt have to tell a mcshay that he actually needs to study the person he projects for us whether he likes the skins or not

i expect my guys who talk about the draft to be subject matter experts and not just throw darts at a dart board and hope he is right

i like mcshay , i really do but i would dismiss that work out of hand . how the hell do you say i think washington will pick Ray at OLB even though i have never studied him , and say he meets the redksins top need

how does he KNOW what the skins want in an olb ? how does he know that Rays production isnt skewed and he is poorly schooled in pro techniques ?

i wouldnt cry about us drafting Ray at this point if he is the BPA available and fits in to what we want to do . shoot at 5 he could be as good as anyone but damn at least look at what you are commenting about before doing so
 

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really, OT, OLB, DE or DT. We have some potential game changers at 5 "IF" they work out and can make an impact. On the other hand, trading the 5th, to land two 1st rounders and perhaps an additional lower round pick, seems very worth it. You just never know who will reach....

Honestly either approach whether Was, keeps the fifth pick or acquires more draft selections, could work. Same time, if Scott MC chooses the wrong players it won't matter which approach he uses.

We'll find out during the season when his players take field.
 
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