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Its not natural dude, thats the difference between me and you. I know the difference and you dont. If you want to watch 2 pickle smoochin cake lickers then fine go for it. But dont force it on me or my family. Whether you realize it or not I have rights too. ........f^$#in liberals:whoo:

Never said you don't have rights. What rights of yours are being infringed upon, anyway? And just because I disagree on this topic, why am I all of a sudden a "liberal" (as if that's some sort of insult). Hell... my firearms collection alone precludes me from that club. Lol. At least, that's what my liberal friends tell me, that is. :noidea:

What's the name for the group that doesn't give a shit what others do, as long as it doesn't affect them? Whatever it is... that's the group I'm in. ;)
 

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Zeke, you're blowing this way out of proportion. That isn't a commercial. It's a stupid 3 second video on a sub-rate website. Not a national commercial. If you don't want you're kids seeing anything "risque" don't let them on vine or instaragram or facebook or google.

And to lighten mood, I'd like to quote Joe Rogan http://d2ws0xxnnorfdo.cloudfront.net/meme/146426
 

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Never said you don't have rights. What rights of yours are being infringed upon, anyway? And just because I disagree on this topic, why am I all of a sudden a "liberal" (as if that's some sort of insult). Hell... my firearms collection alone precludes me from that club. Lol. At least, that's what my liberal friends tell me, that is. :noidea:

What's the name for the group that doesn't give a shit what others do, as long as it doesn't affect them? Whatever it is... that's the group I'm in. ;)


like i said above.....if you dont want to hear me bitch keep that punk ass shit to yourself.
 

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Zeke, you're blowing this way out of proportion. That isn't a commercial. It's a stupid 3 second video on a sub-rate website. Not a national commercial. If you don't want you're kids seeing anything "risque" don't let them on vine or instaragram or facebook or google.

And to lighten mood, I'd like to quote Joe Rogan http://d2ws0xxnnorfdo.cloudfront.net/meme/146426

sorry.....
I didnt start this.I just commented you are condoning it.
 

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Its not natural dude, thats the difference between me and you. I know the difference and you dont. If you want to watch 2 pickle smoochin cake lickers then fine go for it. But dont force it on me or my family. Whether you realize it or not I have rights too. ........f^$#in liberals:whoo:

Homosexuality occurs throughout nature. Thus, natural. Besides, nobody's forcing anything on anyone. Did you lose the remote control? And what 7 year old is watching the 7th round of the NBA draft of his own free will? Most adult football fans aren't as crazy as those of us here are to do such a thing.
 

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Homosexuality occurs throughout nature. Thus, natural. Besides, nobody's forcing anything on anyone. Did you lose the remote control? And what 7 year old is watching the 7th round of the NBA draft of his own free will? Most adult football fans aren't as crazy as those of us here are to do such a thing.


what you and your boy toy do behind closed doors is none of my business.

what part of this dont you understand?? :scratch:
 

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Homosexuality occurs throughout nature. Thus, natural. Besides, nobody's forcing anything on anyone. Did you lose the remote control? And what 7 year old is watching the 7th round of the NBA draft of his own free will? Most adult football fans aren't as crazy as those of us here are to do such a thing.

There are 1500 species in the animal kingdom that practice homosexuality. It is indeed a sexual phenomenon found amongst animal species that utilize it for survival and other biological strategies. But this is where the fallacy lies. Why do we as humans created in the image of the creator now take our behavioral cues and directives from animals who were not created in the image of the creator but just created as part of earth's creation? There are at least 100 species that practice cannibalism. Does that now mean we are to start eating newborns like a male lion invading a lioness harem because cannilbalism is natural? Obviously the answer is a resounding no because we are held to a higher form of behavior that has several layers of governing complexity including superior reasoning power, spirituality, the mind, will, and emotions, and the soul which animals do not possess. So to espouse the validity of an unnatural behavior among human beings as natural because it occurs amongst animals is simply erroneous at best.
 
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There are 1500 species in the animal kingdom that practice homosexuality. It is indeed a sexual phenomenon found amongst animal species that utilize it for survival and other biological strategies. But this is where the fallacy lies. Why do we as humans created in the image of the creator now take our behavioral cues and directives from animals who were not created in the image of the creator but just created as part of earth's creation? There are at least 100 species that practice cannabalism. Does that now mean we are to start eating newborns like a male lion invading a lioness harem because cannalbalism is natural? Obviously the answer is a resounding no because we are held to a higher form of behavior that has several layers of governing complexity including superior reasoning power, spirituality, the mind will and emotions, and the soul which animals do not possess. So to espouse the validity of an unnatural behavior among human beings as natural because it occurs amongst animals is simply erroneous at best.

You obviously are an educated man Retro and it sounds like you know your stuff. Unfortunately so many others here speak only from personal preference or uneducated beliefs. Let's not let the truth get in the way of what we want to believe.
 

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Yea Boss, I hold several advanced degrees in Biochemistry, Molecular Biology, and Microbiology, another in Exercise Science, and I am close to another in Clinical Psych. I have spent a boatload of cash on education that is for sure.
 

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You guys drafted a Central Coast, Paso Robles guy in the 7th. Went to high school and played football with someone I know, who is much younger than I, lol. Rooting for him to succeed!

Round 7, Pick 11 (226) Mitchell Van Dyk OT 6'7" 313 Portland St. 5.1
 

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So to espouse the validity of an unnatural behavior among human beings as natural because it occurs amongst animals is simply erroneous at best.


UNNATURAL BEHAVIOR..........you hit the nail on the head Retro! ....enough said
 

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I agree that the male versus male sexual companionship is un-natural in the eyes of most. I don't understand either side of the coin, female & female or male & male but is it my right to choose their path? God loves all creatures and thus I understand and want to accept that my view is not the only one that exists. I don't care but I don't want it flaunted at me either. The ESPN view I saw after Sam was selected was something that was none of my business, so I turned it off.

As for any influence it may have in the locker room, I don't think that will be a problem in the NFL. Just like the Tim Tebow thing, people turn it off and any over the top remarks by Sam in the locker room will just find him a door out of Rams camp.
 

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There are 1500 species in the animal kingdom that practice homosexuality. It is indeed a sexual phenomenon found amongst animal species that utilize it for survival and other biological strategies. But this is where the fallacy lies. Why do we as humans created in the image of the creator now take our behavioral cues and directives from animals who were not created in the image of the creator but just created as part of earth's creation? There are at least 100 species that practice cannibalism. Does that now mean we are to start eating newborns like a male lion invading a lioness harem because cannilbalism is natural? Obviously the answer is a resounding no because we are held to a higher form of behavior that has several layers of governing complexity including superior reasoning power, spirituality, the mind, will, and emotions, and the soul which animals do not possess. So to espouse the validity of an unnatural behavior among human beings as natural because it occurs amongst animals is simply erroneous at best.

Cannibalism does occur within the human species, just not in our "developed" world. Cannibalism is also different in that it is often dependent on lack of abundant food, or in the human world, seen as a way to denigrate enemies and/or ritualized as a religious event. Gays aren't "turning" to homosexuality for survival/warfare/or religious reasons; they are born that way (whether you believe in a creator or simply an act of nature).
 

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Any one who thinks this stuff is new too the NFL is just kidding themselves. Do a little research into the Washington Redskins. It maybe a real eyeopener for some.
 

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Any one who thinks this stuff is new too the NFL is just kidding themselves. Do a little research into the Washington Redskins. It maybe a real eyeopener for some.

One of our best TEs was gay and the entire team suspected it. A select few were quite sure of it. Redskins locker room was very forward thinking and tolerant, given the times. All they cared about was the quality of play and Jerry Smith produced like crazy. Of course, the media was NOTHING like it is today and Jerry was heavily in the closet and never confirmed anything while playing, so the situation is different. He was also a proven NFL football baller.

His story on A football life is a worthy watch.

NFL Communications - Former Redskins Tight End Jerry Smith Profiled on NFL Network?s ?A Football Life? Tuesday, January 21 at 9:00 PM ET «
 

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Thank you. And I agree. Grew up watching Redskins football it was the closest NFL team. They played great ball at that time. But Jerry was not the only one on that team that was gay if I remember right. It was a great show saw it.
 

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Cannibalism does occur within the human species, just not in our "developed" world. Cannibalism is also different in that it is often dependent on lack of abundant food, or in the human world, seen as a way to denigrate enemies and/or ritualized as a religious event. Gays aren't "turning" to homosexuality for survival/warfare/or religious reasons; they are born that way (whether you believe in a creator or simply an act of nature).

There is no credible evidence to suggest gays are born. It is a chosen lifestyle. Period.
 

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Thank you. And I agree. Grew up watching Redskins football it was the closest NFL team. They played great ball at that time. But Jerry was not the only one on that team that was gay if I remember right. It was a great show saw it.

True, also had David Kopay and Roy Simmons. It was known that the redskins locker room only cared about how a person performed on the field and didn't care about the bedroom. Again, there wasn't the intrusiveness on personal lives by the media that exist today. The DC media stayed away from delving into those issues then. It was a different time. No one cared to make a scandal regarding off the field lives as long as there was good play on Sunday.
 

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Mainly because gay boys back then and still are today, dying at an alarming rate of HIV and AIDS. AIDS claimed Jerry Smith's life as well. If you want to see what the gay lifestyle is like in reality, let me know. I have a whole factual dissertation written on what is going on there. Just say the word and you can read it for yourselves.
 
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