Why has Mitch Kupchak not stepped down yet as GM?

[MessengerOfJah]

If he's as unaligned with Jim's decisions the past 18 months as we'd imagine, why does he continually keep his name attached to such questionable personnel/compensatory decisions by hanging on as Lakers GM?

This guy could land a job anywhere. If Jim's undermining the direction you wish to take, just scram Mitch.

 

[Lakers+USC=#1]

Maybe he loves the Lakers that much. I dont know!

 

[LAKERSUSCBAM]

give us a couple of reasons why he should step down

 

[starbigd]

give us a couple of reasons why he should step down

Because it's clear he's not calling the shots.

If the last 3 years' personnel decisions are his alone, he should have been fired. If Short Buss has been calling the shots, as most believe, he should quit.

Either way, his job is at this point is irrelevant to the team. He's being marginalized and there really isn't a future for him in the organization if this continues. He'd be smart to move on to a team that's actually going to let him manage them.

 

[MessengerOfJah]

give us a couple of reasons why he should step down

He's not in control of his team

Every personnel decision the Lakers make whether it was his call or Jim's will forever be stapled to his resume (stepping down now implies his vision and authority with the team is undermined), a skid mark on his legacy.

A GM position will surely open up for him next season somewhere around the league, a position that will allow him to exercise his authority.

 

[LAKERSUSCBAM]

None of us know who's making the decisions unless you're in that room. We can analyze all day long and they can say all the right things but who really knows....

Let's not forget who gave the final ok to hire D'Antoni: Jerry Buss. Time will tell if that was the right call....if team goes into a tailspin for X number of years then we can probably make a good determination who's running the show/making personnel decisions. Or Mitch goes to another team as posted earlier.

As for Jim stepping down or Mitch making the wrong decisions, I'd bet a dollar if every other owner/GM in the league didn't make the wrong decision and I'd be rich, ha.

 

[LogicMan]

The problem BAM is that the pattern continues, from the Nash deal to the Howard deal and now this. Imagine if they had obtained Howard, fired Dantoni, brought in Phil to teach Dwight, never given Nash that deal, and had amnestied Kobe.

They would be stacked with picks, a great coach, with cash for the FA period, and with a quality center to attract others.

time will tell, but it smells of the Pitino plague

 

[HammerDown]

The problem BAM is that the pattern continues, from the Nash deal to the Howard deal and now this. Imagine if they had obtained Howard, fired Dantoni, brought in Phil to teach Dwight, never given Nash that deal, and had amnestied Kobe.

They would be stacked with picks, a great coach, with cash for the FA period, and with a quality center to attract others.

time will tell, but it smells of the Pitino plague

Your GM is Danny Ainge and your coach is some kid named Brad. GTFO

 

[LAKERSUSCBAM]

Well Doc is not here to answer why he chose DAntoni over PJ ...that may have changed the team's fortune. We'll never know.

They took a risk with Nash and injuries have derailed any possibility of him making an impact. As for D12, not even PJ would have made a difference with someone that won't help themselves to improve their O game.

 

[trojanfan12]

The problem BAM is that the pattern continues, from the Nash deal to the Howard deal and now this. Imagine if they had obtained Howard, fired Dantoni, brought in Phil to teach Dwight, never given Nash that deal, and had amnestied Kobe.

They would be stacked with picks, a great coach, with cash for the FA period, and with a quality center to attract others.

time will tell, but it smells of the Pitino plague

Anyone else remember when Celtics fans used to know basketball? What the hell has happened?

The deal for Dwight was one that every GM in the NBA would have made. They took a shot and it didn't work. It happens. Lakers fans have moved on. Why haven't you?

The Nash deal was a good one at the time for what the Lakers were trying to do. No one could have predicted that he would have a freak injury that would cause this much trouble for this long.

The Lakers problem isn't and hasn't been D'Antoni and the Lakers are better off in the long run without Dwight. The Lakers will still be stacked with cash and will still have enough cap space to land a max deal free agent in either this coming FA class or 2015. Then, when Kobe's contract expires after 2015, they will have the capo space to grab another max player in 2016.

Gotta love C's fans. They know they're looking another 2 decades of irrelevance, so all they if is trying to come up with "doomsday scenario's" for the Lakers. It's sad and pathetic, but it's all they have.

 

[BobGnarly]

Gotta love Lakers fans' ability to read the future as well. Mind if I take a look into that crystal ball?

 

[trojanfan12]

Well Doc is not here to answer why he chose DAntoni over PJ ...that may have changed the team's fortune. We'll never know.

They took a risk with Nash and injuries have derailed any possibility of him making an impact. As for D12, not even PJ would have made a difference with someone that won't help themselves to improve their O game.

I'd imagine they the decision was made because Phil wasn't going to be the coach for more than a season or 2 anyway. How many times can 1 coach retire anyway? The NBA has become a fast paced league and the triangle just doesn't cut it anymore. We saw that over Phil's last 2 seasons.

D'Antoni's system or versions of it, is what most of the league is using.

 

[trojanfan12]

Gotta love Lakers fans' ability to read the future as well. Mind if I take a look into that crystal ball?

I don't see any Lakers fans posting on any Celtics threads and trying to predict doom and gloom. In fact, I don't see any Celtics threads. Probably because no one cares about a franchise that has exactly 1 title in the past 25 years and still thinks it's the 1950's.

 

[BobGnarly]

Probably because we don't have as many bandwagon fans

 

[trojanfan12]

Probably because we don't have as many bandwagon fans

Touche'!! Gotta give you that one!!

 

[LAKERSUSCBAM]

Ha - in denial cause Lakers fans are all over threads to do with Lakers...correction Trojan: 1 title in 27 yrs. that well is as dry as a hot night in the Mojave desert.

At least we're relevant; Celtics hire a college coach a nobody in the NCAA lore to resurrect a franchise. And don't look now but Rondo is rumored to be traded leaving them with??

 

[LogicMan]

Kobe Bryant's contract extension sticks Lakers in the middle - latimes.com

Trojan, here is what your own paper i saying about the latest wonderous move.

Looks like their facts suggest you now down to one other max deal at best, assuming there is even a player that makes it to FA before being traded.

This is your local paper

 

[trojanfan12]

Kobe Bryant's contract extension sticks Lakers in the middle - latimes.com

Trojan, here is what your own paper i saying about the latest wonderous move.

Looks like their facts suggest you now down to one other max deal at best, assuming there is even a player that makes it to FA before being traded.

This is your local paper

How many threads are you going to post this in?

The article says pretty much exactly what I have said in 2 or 3 posts already. The only real difference is that the author focuses on 'Melo as a free agent and I don't think the Lakers are very interested in him.

 

[LogicMan]

Trojan, you know we have a difference of agreement? I can enjoy watching this all unfold, right?

I mean thats part of the fun and the smack on here. I am sure if the Celts draft a kid this next spring and he goes from being a cant miss to a dud, there will be posts on that. Posters will come on and say that the Celts were not loyal to KG, PP and Doc, and that the Celts wasted those picks.

Laker posters love to post on the Pitino plague era in Boston. Its what we do.

The past can teach lessons for the future...................

 

[trojanfan12]

Trojan, you know we have a difference of agreement? I can enjoy watching this all unfold, right?

I mean thats part of the fun and the smack on here. I am sure if the Celts draft a kid this next spring and he goes from being a cant miss to a dud, there will be posts on that. Posters will come on and say that the Celts were not loyal to KG, PP and Doc, and that the Celts wasted those picks.

Laker posters love to post on the Pitino plague era in Boston. Its what we do.

The past can teach lessons for the future...................

No problem with watching it all unfold, but at least be a little more informed on your posts. You act like this contract is the equivalent of the Angels signing Pujols to a 10 year deal at age 35. It's a 2 year deal that leaves cap space for the Lakers to add a max player and solid role players over the next 2 years and then another max player in 2016.

As for the Pitino era, I've never posted on it and can't think of any time that I've seen any other Lakers fan post about it. We prefer to point out the 25+ years of irrelevance you went through instead.

As for the past teaching lessons. The Celtics apparently haven't learned. The last time they cast their lot by trying to build through the draft, it took them 25 years and a big assist from Kevin McHale to get 1 title.

Sorry, but the Lakers way of doing things seems to work better.