Game Thread: UW @ ASU

[WizardHawk]

First things first.

Jahii, get lost. No, really. This is the UW board and your constant replies with why our views are wrong doesn't belong here. Sure, other ASU fans can chime in as we expect most of them understand what is and is not acceptable on other team boards, but jahii seems to have no filters.

This is a match up of two teams that have had offensive production and do it in different ways. ASU will pass more and take their shots down field and of course UW has been living off of big plays in the running game and screen passes and sideline routes. ASU's overall offensive stats have been above UW's, but UW's defense is quite a bit ahead of theirs. On defense UW leads the conference in pass defense while both teams are lower part of the pac in run defense (8th and 9th).

We all know you have to look at the match ups to evaluate a game and I see UW getting the better of both main units. Wilcox will make the adjustments needed to keep ASU's passing game from getting the explosive plays they are used to. He talked extensively about the errors in the Oregon game and I agree they were simple mistakes here and there that were out of character for what they had done year to date. You can't be half a step off with Oregon or you are toast. On offense they have been consistent all year. Oregon was for sure Price's worst game and it still wasn't horrible and Sankey just does his thing every game no matter who they play.

Sark has so many weapons and we have all been waiting for them to feature KW and ASJ more and if you don't do it in a game you say is key to your season then when will you? ASJ has been open a lot and the game plans have just not been putting him in as a primary target much. Some of it has been the teams we have played as of late. Many TE routes take longer to develop and are not ideal for quick strikes and KP hasn't had the same time in the pocket against those last two defenses. If I was Sark I'd open with a lot of the same sets they have been running and get Sankey going while doing a lot of quick strikes to Ross, Smith, and Mickens. Then use that to get match up that leave KW and ASJ with big looks down field.

On defense you know ASU isn't going to get big time numbers in the running game which should free up Shaq to drop back more and help on coverage. I'm sure they will work on the same sort of contain looks they had so much success with against Boise State, Idaho State, and Illinois.

Want a short version? Both teams are better at pass defense than rushing and UW runs the ball more. UW leads the conference in pass defense and ASU passes more than runs. ASU's scoring defense is 9th (27ppg) in the conference while UW is 4th (20ppg). The story of this game is who's defense will match up better and I like our chances against a pass heavy team more than their defense against the run.

I have this game as UW 38 and ASU 27.

 

[WizardHawk]

Let me also add that there is a good chance that there are more UW fans at that game than any other game at ASU maybe ever, but for sure a long time. The Seahawks play in arizona on thursday and there are a LOT of people going down there for both games. We all know that ASU doesn't sell out their games anyway so it will be interesting to see what kind of vibe that crowd has with all the dub's on hand.

 

[RegentDenali]

That's great we will have big fan presence with them sticking around after the Hawks game.

I really like this match up. Two 4-2 teams with PAC like similarities but big differences as well. A game that kicks off the second half the season and has big ramifications as both teams jockey for bowl position. One team walks away 4-3, the other 5-2.
And this W is absolutely critical to the Huskies getting past the 7 win mark this year.

I agree that it's time to unleash KW and ASJ in this game. Absolutely. I'm predicting a shootout for at least 3 quarters before UW starts pulling away.

Get Sankey going early, but we don't want him gassed by the 4th. Mix it up with Callier and Cooper to help keep his legs maximum fresh for 2nd half. Still want to see him get to 200+ yds or close with this game.

Also believe our D will play a big part in our victory. ASU has some beef on the Dline, but UW is the better overall unit. Limit the big plays and keep them honest.

All the conditioning our offense and defense had practicing the uptempo during the off season and past half of the season will pay off down there in the heat.

I really like our chances to get a W this weekend. The sportsbooks aren't giving ASU a lot of respect with the -3 line.

 

[Ironbreaker]

My fear in this game is that the once vaunted pass rush ASU was supposed to have finds their identity this game.

They were supposed to have a great pass rush, then the season started.

If we keep them in check and Price has time to pass when we need him to, UW is going to win. If all we can do is run, which we will, ASU will win.


I don't want to see Price getting knocked around all day again. We don't win when he's pressured big time.

 

[JahiiCarson_SqodGeneral]

My fear in this game is that the once vaunted pass rush ASU was supposed to have finds their identity this game.

They were supposed to have a great pass rush, then the season started.

If we keep them in check and Price has time to pass when we need him to, UW is going to win. If all we can do is run, which we will, ASU will win.


I don't want to see Price getting knocked around all day again. We don't win when he's pressured big time.

If Sutton drops 15 pounds than the pass rush is back. Bradford is starting to heat up, Coleman as well don't know if that's enough to get the pass rush going. Oops my bad Wiz didn't read your first sentence all leave.

 

[WizardHawk]

My fear in this game is that the once vaunted pass rush ASU was supposed to have finds their identity this game.

They were supposed to have a great pass rush, then the season started.

If we keep them in check and Price has time to pass when we need him to, UW is going to win. If all we can do is run, which we will, ASU will win.


I don't want to see Price getting knocked around all day again. We don't win when he's pressured big time.

I don't know if I agree with that. Last year Price tried to do too much when he was running away from pressure, but everything I've seen this year says he is over that. He faced more pressure from Stanford than he will any other team this year outside of maybe UCLA? And how did he do? He is athletic enough to move out of the pocket and be dangerous on the run himself and I haven't seen him make any mistakes passing on the run. That he now has been throwing it away instead of forcing plays tells me he can handle any pass rush he faces.

And Jahii...
Down boy. Sit!

 

[Ironbreaker]

Yeah. I don't know. Watching the UO game they had a stat mid way thru the 3rd where he was pressured 14 times, hit 10 and I forget the sack amount at that time. All these went up by the end of the game. At one pt It didn't look like he was going to get up.

He also threw the ball out of bounds to avoid getting sacked over 7 times. UO put tremendous pressure on Price, granted they only sacked him 4x vs 5x for Stanford but I watched both games and UO had much more pressure on him imo.

I know this, they both got great pressure on him and we are 0-2 this season vs teams that do that.

 

[Ironbreaker]

“We’ll be all right,”

Price said, turning back over his left shoulder as he walked away from the No. 16 Huskies’ 45-24 loss to second-ranked Oregon, a game that was 31-24 with 14 minutes left.

“Trust me.”


In Price we trust?



I do like his confidence.


GO HUSKIES!!!

 

[WizardHawk]

Yeah. I don't know. Watching the UO game they had a stat mid way thru the 3rd where he was pressured 14 times, hit 10 and I forget the sack amount at that time. All these went up by the end of the game. At one pt It didn't look like he was going to get up.

He also threw the ball out of bounds to avoid getting sacked over 7 times. UO put tremendous pressure on Price, granted they only sacked him 4x vs 5x for Stanford but I watched both games and UO had much more pressure on him imo.

I know this, they both got great pressure on him and we are 0-2 this season vs teams that do that.

And if it wasn't for a kicker we would have been 1-1. It wasn't Price or the offense that lost that game. Stanfords defense couldn't keep them from scoring enough to win the game. That game was lost on special teams. Period.

 

[Ironbreaker]

Well we arent 1-1. We're 0-2. Period.

While I agree that special teams were the greater factor, 5 sacks isn't helpful in any way shape or form.

 

[WizardHawk]

Well we arent 1-1. We're 0-2. Period.

While I agree that special teams were the greater factor, 5 sacks isn't helpful in any way shape or form.

No, but to site that we are 0-2 vs good pass rushing isn't the whole story either. Keith played well enough to win that game given how strong the defense was and we fully expect that defense to rise here as well. If ASU breaks out some crazy pass rush maybe they only score 32 instead of 42, but you aren't going to keep them under 28 IMO and if they play the defense they have been that will be more than good enough.

 

[WhoDatDevil]

This game is going to be a dogfight, no pun intended. Graham said that Washington is the most talented team we have left on our schedule. Sark said Grice is one of the best RB that nobody's heard of. ASU has been great at home and Washington has lost 7 straight to the Sun Devils. Spread is only -3. The way I'm looking at this is, you're going to get points on offense.. We just need to get more. Our defense is not good enough to beat UW straight up. Therefore, expect to see exotic stunts and blitz's. The team that takes care of the ball better wins this game.. Pressure pressure and more pressure on Price.

 

[Arizona_Sting]

*Opens thread*
*Reads first sentence*
*laughs out loud*

Bye.

 

[WizardHawk]

This game is going to be a dogfight, no pun intended. Graham said that Washington is the most talented team we have left on our schedule. Sark said Grice is one of the best RB that nobody's heard of. ASU has been great at home and Washington has lost 7 straight to the Sun Devils. Spread is only -3. The way I'm looking at this is, you're going to get points on offense.. We just need to get more. Our defense is not good enough to beat UW straight up. Therefore, expect to see exotic stunts and blitz's. The team that takes care of the ball better wins this game.. Pressure pressure and more pressure on Price.

Despite what my often pessimistic fellow dawg fan said, I'm not sure the key to winning this game is pressure on Price. Obviously you can't let him sit in the pocket all night or he will shred you with all of the tools they have, but they are playing a lot of screens and quick dump passes this year that often thwart blitzing and have lit up several defenses. I think you make price prove he can beat you down field and concentrate on taking away the bubble screens and try to contain Sankey as much as you can.

But then if I was any kind of expert on how to beat UW's offense I'd have a job out there waiting for me.

What would you sundevils think is the key to beating your offense?

 

[WhoDatDevil]

Despite what my often pessimistic fellow dawg fan said, I'm not sure the key to winning this game is pressure on Price. Obviously you can't let him sit in the pocket all night or he will shred you with all of the tools they have, but they are playing a lot of screens and quick dump passes this year that often thwart blitzing and have lit up several defenses. I think you make price prove he can beat you down field and concentrate on taking away the bubble screens and try to contain Sankey as much as you can.

But then if I was any kind of expert on how to beat UW's offense I'd have a job out there waiting for me.

What would you sundevils think is the key to beating your offense?

Disrupt their rhythm and force them to be one-dimensional. When they've struggle it's because they weren't able to establish the run. When the game is on the shoulders of Kelly he typically can't perform. If they're forced to throw into your talented secondary all night we'll loose. You'll need to destroy the LOS and not allow Grice/Foster/Lewis/Kelly to get into the open field. Create TO's and negative yard plays. Watch for the deep ball on second and short. Stay disciplined on the zone read and defend Strong (one of the best WRs in the Pac) on the outside near the sideline. Expect a high scoring game, enjoy Tempe if you're coming, and good luck.

 

[RegentDenali]

From a roster perspective, the Huskies are in great shape heading down to Tempe this weekend. Everyone is healthy, including Price who removed the bandage from his thumb this week of practice.

Erik Kohler is back which hasn't got a lot of press. He got some snaps at LG during the Oregon game. Dexter Charles is still reported as limited, so expect to see Kohler working the LG duties again, and will probably be the games starter. It will be good to have him in there adding experienced depth to the Oline against that good ASU Dline. Stanford and Oregon show a lot of 3 man fronts at D. ASU mainly runs a 4 so it will be important for the guards to ball in the trenches to help get those holes open for Sankey and the running game while protecting Price so he can do his thing

 

[kcden]

About to hop on the flight down to Phoenix, now.
Go Dawgs!
Go Hawks!

 

[RegentDenali]

About to hop on the flight down to Phoenix, now.
Go Dawgs!
Go Hawks!

Make it loud. Have a blast.

 

[mcnabb7542]

Yeah. I don't know. Watching the UO game they had a stat mid way thru the 3rd where he was pressured 14 times, hit 10 and I forget the sack amount at that time. All these went up by the end of the game. At one pt It didn't look like he was going to get up.

He also threw the ball out of bounds to avoid getting sacked over 7 times. UO put tremendous pressure on Price, granted they only sacked him 4x vs 5x for Stanford but I watched both games and UO had much more pressure on him imo.

I know this, they both got great pressure on him and we are 0-2 this season vs teams that do that.

Any good coaching staff is gonna put pressure on Price, its a given, and why wouldn't they? Last season is proof enough you keep constant pressure on him, his OL is healthy and better, but you don't over look the part of him and his "happy feet' last season. Oregon game planned it and they got out of town with W....

 

[Ironbreaker]

Any good coaching staff is gonna put pressure on Price, its a given, and why wouldn't they? Last season is proof enough you keep constant pressure on him, his OL is healthy and better, but you don't over look the part of him and his "happy feet' last season. Oregon game planned it and they got out of town with W....

Any good coaching staff is going to try and put pressure on Price.

Stanford and Oregon succeeded.