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I have a feeling we are gonna come out blazing and whip Dallas after this bye week it gave us time to game plan and get healthy plus we have some players coming back from suspension
I wish I had your optimism about coming out blazing. I'm feeling it will be like every game in a 14-0 hole and biting and scratching to get back into it.
I like your scenario better.
 

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Redskins 27 Cowboys 24

Griffin 250 yards, 1 TD 1 INT 30 yards rushing
Morris 100 yards, 1 TD
Garcon 100 yards
Hankerson 50 yards 1 TD
Moss 100 yards
Reed 50 yards
Davis 25 yards
Forbath 2 of 2
Defense 2 sacks, 1 int, 1 TD


Romo 250 yards 3 TD, 1 INT
Murray 150 yards
Williams 100 yards 1 TD
Bryant 50 yards 1 TD
Beasley 50 yards
Harris 50 yards
Witten 50 yards 1 TD
Bailey 1 of 1
Defense 2 sack, 1 INT
 

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Agree. I don't see Dallas only scoring 20 but what do I know with all the 42-38 predictions it will turn out to be to be 6-3

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Thought the same thing after I wrote it...watch this turn out to be a 3-2 defensive onslaught.
 

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Krush, one problem...Reed. I picked him up because Dallas can't stop TE's. He's going to have more than 50 yards and I'm betting at least one TD.

Also, going to be tough to get a 100 yard rusher against us. For one, why run when you can throw. Two, we haven't given up 100 yard rushing game yet.
 

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Phill Simms weighs in saying, " The Redskins are without a doubt as good a team as the Dallas Cowboys..." on 106.7 The Fan. Wow.

Um, don't think I can agree with this at this moment in time. Maybe as equally bad on defense in a weak division, lol. I know one thing, I don't fear facing the cowboys. I do fear facing the Broncos.
 

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For one, why run when you can throw. Two, we haven't given up 100 yard rushing game yet.

Skins NEED to run to set up the pass effectively and control the time of possession. It's how our offense is built. Philosophically, we run to pass, while Dallas seems to pass to run.

If we get a 100+ yard rushing game with Morris and Helu, skins likely win this game.
 

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Skins NEED to run to set up the pass effectively and control the time of possession. It's how our offense is built. Philosophically, we run to pass, while Dallas seems to pass to run.

If we get a 100+ yard rushing game with Morris and Helu, skins likely win this game.

100 yards rushing as a team is doable. Just havent' seen it done by one guy yet. Moreno got close.
 

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Twist, all the reasons you listed are very valid and I can understand exactly why you feel better about Dallas going into this game.

However, I don't think you can underestimate the fact that these divisions games often end up with surprising outcomes, given how well our teams know each other. Shark mentioned us coming off a bye week, pretty healthy and very motivated to win. That's a definite plus for us, that should be factored in.

I totally agree about our ability to RUN the ball being a critical point in a win for the Skins. I suspect Griff will be more mobile than we've seen yet this season. Will it be enough? That's the question.

Whose secondary sucks the least will be a huge factor, but I would add special teams which have been pretty horrific for both our teams as well. Also, Turnovers, which in my mind will be the crucial tale of who wins this game.

Well the week off may help you but it also might hurt you .....
You started the season cold .... got a win ..which might have been warming up but then had a week off....

Can't say you prepared for this offense..... Hell til Sunday I would not have seen that coming with our offense ..... I doubt as mediocre as our offense had been .... the game planning for that .... Just did a 360 Sunday.

Now the week off to plan on our defense .......

The NFL is so what ifs ands and butts..... Add in you cant throw 90% of it out the window on a divisional game in this division ....
I was referring to general play .... Turnovers and special teams make a major factor . I think we lost to San Diego because of special teams ..... Hell we only got one ball on the 20 and thats because the dude ran out of bounds and touched the ball first or we would have been pinned on the 2? ( I give that soley to the Chargers punter though) First ever time I will say a punter controlled the flow of a game.
 

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In terms of general play Twist, Dallas has definitely performed better on offense than the Skins, even before the Broncos passing juggernaut display. I think there is no argument about this.

To me, outside of the other issues we've already mentioned, Skins MUST get consistent pressure on Romo and throw him off his game. History has proven that he makes mistakes when hurried or sacked. Thats the case with most QBS, but especially Romo. If that doesn't happen, we're definitly screwed. As it stands, at this moment in time, our Offense can't put up enough points to out pass you all.
 

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Skins NEED to run to set up the pass effectively and control the time of possession. It's how our offense is built. Philosophically, we run to pass, while Dallas seems to pass to run.

If we get a 100+ yard rushing game with Morris and Helu, skins likely win this game.
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In terms of general play Twist, Dallas has definitely performed better on offense than the Skins, even before the Broncos passing juggernaut display. I think there is no argument about this.

To me, outside of the other issues we've already mentioned, Skins MUST get consistent pressure on Romo and throw him off his game. History has proven that he makes mistakes when hurried or sacked. Thats the case with most QBS, but especially Romo. If that doesn't happen, we're definitly screwed. As it stands, at this moment in time, our Offense can't put up enough points to out pass you all.

Our team is only the 4th team in NFL history to give up 3 400 yard Qbs in a entire season (us the Cowboys) We have managed to not take a season to do it but 5 games.....

yall were like 16 yards short of accomplishing the same thing .....

In SHORT

BOTH OF OUR SECONDARIES SUCK NUTS

And and yall came within 16 yards ... with a bi week.

Both teams are fucking sad against the pass.... blame it one whatever or whoever...... but that many yards...... both fan bases need to stop blaming offensive players
 
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Our team is only the 4th team in NFL history to give up 3 400 yard Qbs in a entire season (us the Cowboys) We have managed to not take a season to do it but 5 games.....

yall were like 16 yards short of accomplishing the same thing .....

In SHORT

BOTH OF OUR SECONDARIES SUCK NUTS

And and yall came within 16 yards ... with a bi week.

Both teams are fucking sad against the pass.... blame it one whatever or whoever...... but that many yards...... both fan bases need to stop blaming offensive players

:lol: totally agree. Secondary is beyond embarrassing for both our teams. And we very well could join you after playing our 5th game. Romo and offense WILL get points against this Skins team.

Skins fans have a bit more legitimate reason to be blaming the offense this year. We are looking at a complete lack of production in the first quarter of games. You can't win football games playing from behind. Good teams control the tempo of the game, we're still looking to find our offensive identity with Griff recovering.
 

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:lol: totally agree. Secondary is beyond embarrassing for both our teams. And we very well could join you after playing our 5th game. Romo and offense WILL get points against this Skins team.

Skins fans have a bit more legitimate reason to be blaming the offense this year. We are looking at a complete lack of production in the first quarter of games. You can't win football games playing from behind. Good teams control the tempo of the game, we're still looking to find our offensive identity with Griff recovering.

Totally agree with you ... have said on our (Cowboys board) we cant find out who we are. Great teams play to their strenghts and make the other teams hold pace to start a game.
Anytime you play to the other team in the first couple of drives..... I think it's fear play ..... eerks the fuck out of me.

Lots of trash talk about Romo throwing that pick ..... but realistically ... 13 Tds to 2 INTs ... over 70% this year..... Throws up 48 ..... defense never makes Denver punt even once .... and it's Tony's fault?
I think the same with yalls team .... Defense wont bail the offense out. So the offense is in must score every drive..... thats hella pressure ......
Then both coaching staffs have a collar on our Qbs ..... They wouldnt let RG3 run... They wouldn't let Romo pass til this last game .....

This damn division...... figure it out let me know... our coaches outthink the game and fuck themselves half the time
 

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Totally agree with you ... have said on our (Cowboys board) we cant find out who we are. Great teams play to their strenghts and make the other teams hold pace to start a game.
Anytime you play to the other team in the first couple of drives..... I think it's fear play ..... eerks the fuck out of me.

Lots of trash talk about Romo throwing that pick ..... but realistically ... 13 Tds to 2 INTs ... over 70% this year..... Throws up 48 ..... defense never makes Denver punt even once .... and it's Tony's fault?
I think the same with yalls team .... Defense wont bail the offense out. So the offense is in must score every drive..... thats hella pressure ......
Then both coaching staffs have a collar on our Qbs ..... They wouldnt let RG3 run... They wouldn't let Romo pass til this last game .....

This damn division...... figure it out let me know... our coaches outthink the game and fuck themselves half the time


Seems like we agree on alot of points.... Hmmmm, that seems weird to be saying during Dallas/Skins week.

From what I saw, Romo's pick was more on your LT, and an amazing catch by a LB, than him, but the Romo narrative has been written and that doesn't fit it for the media or some football fans. Got to get into his head after happening so many times, hopefully there will be a hangover lasting through our game...I'll take any edge.


Not sure who or what is behind Griff not running. I actually think its less Shanny and more other things. I think it's a combination of Shanny, the initial few game plans easing Griff back into things, not scoring and playing from behind every game, the rust and Griff himself. This offense IS getting better every week, just hope it's enough for Sun.


Im with ya, You have to play to win, not play not to lose!
 

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Cowboys either win big, or the more likely, Cowboys have the ball in a close game under 4 minutes to go in the 4th.
 
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