I Would Love To Eliminate Back-to-Back Games

[True Lakers Fan]

Well, you lost on that one. My team, the Pistons, went 7-10 on the second night of back to backs for a 0.411 win percentage in a season where they went 0.354 for the season.

7-10 is still a losing record and most likely worse then it would have been if it wasn't the Pistons - they are one of the worst teams in the NBA, so I'm not sure they should count

 

[bksballer89]

I think they should only have a day off if they are traveling. Else, step your shit up.

For what? These are professional athletes...SUCK IT UP

 

[True Lakers Fan]

I think they should only have a day off if they are traveling. Else, step your shit up.

Some of it isn't quite as bad and I understand why the Eastern Conference fans sees nothing wrong with it, because it's not nearly as much traveling, but the teams in the Western Conference ends up playing til 10 in night, getting on a plane and ending up in Denver for example at 2 am and having to play an early game because of the time difference - To me that is insane. I have seen where the Suns, Warriors and the Lakers all lose on those games on a regular basis. This season I am going to track the losses on back to backs by type just for some fun and see what I come up with

 

[JDM]

Some of it isn't quite as bad and I understand why the Eastern Conference fans sees nothing wrong with it, because it's not nearly as much traveling, but the teams in the Western Conference ends up playing til 10 in night, getting on a plane and ending up in Denver for example at 2 am and having to play an early game because of the time difference - To me that is insane. I have seen where the Suns, Warriors and the Lakers all lose on those games on a regular basis. This season I am going to track the losses on back to backs by type just for some fun and see what I come up with

Again, man the fuck up. It's that simple.

If you get worked harder you are more prepared in the playoffs and have nothing to complain about.

 

[True Lakers Fan]

Again, man the fuck up. It's that simple.

If you get worked harder you are more prepared in the playoffs and have nothing to complain about.

Really? Because I have heard Doc Rivers complaining about it and I have seen Popovich also pull shit because of the scheduling. Do you have the balls to get in there face and say that? You honestly don't think you would get a better product if you backed off the back to back games a bit? If you don't then you're an idiot

 

[JDM]

Why would I be scared of them, and what relevance would that have? The product would be at its best if teams played every single day the entire season.

 

[logic]

7-10 is still a losing record and most likely worse then it would have been if it wasn't the Pistons - they are one of the worst teams in the NBA, so I'm not sure they should count

Your supposition is that back to back hurts the quality of play, even if the Pistons are a bad team their record shouldn't improve on the second night of back to backs if the quality of play is worse.

But okay, how about the best team in the league, the Miami Heat. 15-1 in back to back for a .9375 win percentage in back to back versus .08 for the regular season.

Maybe the Lakers should learn to suck it up.

 

[trojanfan12]

This whole "get rid of back to backs" is nonsense!! Back in the 60's and 70's teams would have a few back to back to back games and the travel and accommodations weren't nearly what they are now. In those days they took regular commercial flights (as opposed to the chartered flights of today) and weren't staying in 5 star hotels!!

 

[Jims_Doors]

Some of it isn't quite as bad and I understand why the Eastern Conference fans sees nothing wrong with it, because it's not nearly as much traveling, but the teams in the Western Conference ends up playing til 10 in night, getting on a plane and ending up in Denver for example at 2 am and having to play an early game because of the time difference - To me that is insane. I have seen where the Suns, Warriors and the Lakers all lose on those games on a regular basis. This season I am going to track the losses on back to backs by type just for some fun and see what I come up with

Denver doesn't play any home night games before 9:00pm. Getting to Denver at 2:00am means they have 19hrs to get ready for the game.

Not a BFD

 

[True Lakers Fan]

Why would I be scared of them, and what relevance would that have? The product would be at its best if teams played every single day the entire season.

I am assuming you're talking about my Lakers - lol, now and I sadly agree - Right now no one is afraid of them. I am hoping that changes in the regular season though

 

[JDM]

No, that was in response to "would you say it to their face?".

 

[Lakers+USC=#1]

Basically, TLF is the only one that want this.

 

[Black Belt Disciple]

Basically, TLF is the only one that want this.

You can't fix stupid

 

[True Lakers Fan]

Denver doesn't play any home night games before 9:00pm. Getting to Denver at 2:00am means they have 19hrs to get ready for the game.

Not a BFD

Not sure if I follow you here correctly but last year both the Warriors and Lakers faced the same situation. I didn't not the Clippers, but Lakers played Pacific Standard time and typically finished around 10 pm. Then boarded a plane and got into Denver by around 2 am. Most likely asleep by 2:30 or 3:00 but that is not a lot of time for the team playing Denver. It takes a full day to two days for your muscles to recover from a hard workout - so most teams are going to struggle with the little sleep, fatigue on top of the Altitude. Denver has yet to play at home the night before so of course it's great for them - That's the kind of crap I would like to see eliminated. A game on Monday night then go to Sacramento and play the next night - easy. By way if the Lakers or Warriors or Clippers finish at 10 pm, get onto the plane by 11: pm, it's already 12 am or 1 - I think Denver is on mountain time, but it's still a loss of valuable time -Thats also the reason that Denver had such a strong record at home

 

[bksballer89]

Not sure if I follow you here correctly but last year both the Warriors and Lakers faced the same situation. I didn't not the Clippers, but Lakers played Pacific Standard time and typically finished around 10 pm. Then boarded a plane and got into Denver by around 2 am. Most likely asleep by 2:30 or 3:00 but that is not a lot of time for the team playing Denver. It takes a full day to two days for your muscles to recover from a hard workout - so most teams are going to struggle with the little sleep, fatigue on top of the Altitude. Denver has yet to play at home the night before so of course it's great for them - That's the kind of crap I would like to see eliminated. A game on Monday night then go to Sacramento and play the next night - easy. By way if the Lakers or Warriors or Clippers finish at 10 pm, get onto the plane by 11: pm, it's already 12 am or 1 - I think Denver is on mountain time, but it's still a loss of valuable time -Thats also the reason that Denver had such a strong record at home

I'm not sure if you noticed but most teams in the league B2B comes on the road. It is not just that they're favoring Denver. The league doesn't usually schedule much B2B home games for a team. Actually I'm not sure if they do it at all for any team. I went through 4 different teams home schedule from last year (your Lakers being included) and I have yet to see any of those home schedules include B2B home games.

BTW last year Miami played the Clippers on November 14th in a game which they were defeated in, arrived in Denver in the AM for a game on the 15th and defeated Denver....And oh yeah this was Miami 4th road game in 5 nights and 5th road game in 7 nights.

 

[True Lakers Fan]

I'm not sure if you noticed but most teams in the league B2B comes on the road. It is not just that they're favoring Denver. The league doesn't usually schedule much B2B home games for a team. Actually I'm not sure if they do it at all for any team. I went through 4 different teams home schedule from last year (your Lakers being included) and I have yet to see any of those home schedules include B2B home games.

BTW last year Miami played the Clippers on November 14th in a game which they were defeated in, arrived in Denver in the AM for a game on the 15th and defeated Denver....And oh yeah this was Miami 4th road game in 5 nights and 5th road game in 7 nights.

That's why I think it's bad for the game - although Popovich pulled a fast one last year when he yanked his star players out of the game and still nearly won the game. Personally I think about 72 games and perhaps stretching the season out just a couple of weeks and put just some space in between those games. They won't do it of course because it comes down to more days on the road would cost them more $$$$$$$ and some of the owners might be afraid that the athletes with more time on the road could get into more trouble - They might be right too - Miami is too young and athletic to be worried about road games just yet, but for what it's worth - still not the same as the west coast teams getting out late and flying into another time zone that's earlier. Florida is on Eastern Standard Time which would be 2 hours later then Denver. Ca is on Pacific Standard Time which is one hour earlier then Denver. So 10 pm game on East coast means they get into Denver by ten easily because it's really 8 in Denver, so that's a bit better. Come to think of it Those morons in the front office in the NBA probably can't tell time anyway

 

[logic]

- still not the same as the west coast teams getting out late and flying into another time zone that's earlier. Florida is on Eastern Standard Time which would be 2 hours later then Denver. Ca is on Pacific Standard Time which is one hour earlier then Denver. So 10 pm game on East coast means they get into Denver by ten easily because it's really 8 in Denver, so that's a bit better. Come to think of it Those morons in the front office in the NBA probably can't tell time anyway

Okay, so I'm still doing your work for you and chose a random, average team from the West to look at: the Portland Trailblazers. They went 7-10 in the second of back to back for the same .411 the Pistons had: regular season .402. About the same, a little better. It seems the stats aren't backing you claims of poor play too well.

 

[logic]

I decided to look at one more team, the Spurs, since they made the most noise last year about scheduling and are considered an "old" team that might need the rest. Curiously, they only had 13 back to backs, fewer than the other teams that I have looked at who had 17. They went 8-5 in those games for .615 win percentage which was lower than their .670 season average. However, if they had won the game against Miami which they sent their key player home and still almost pulled it out they would have been 9-4 for .690, about the same as the regular season record. It really seems that back to backs are not a big issue for these professional athletes.

 

[Nooone]

This is pathetic. I played hockey my whole life and there were weekends where we played 3-5 games. Not at the level of pro athletes. But if 14 year old kids can play that many games in that time span the best athletes in the world can.

One of the dumber things TLF has said. Up there with his claims of Blake Griffin, Russell Westbrook and James Harden being better than LeBron.

 

[logic]

I finally figured out where TLF was coming from on this thread. His Lakers are bad in back to backs. And when I say bad, I mean atrocious. 6-11 (worse than my Pistons were) for a .353 win percentage versus a .549 season percentage. Almost .200 worse. Horrible! Where TLF fails is that his view of the NBA is sooooooo laker-centric that he believes this is a league-wide issue, not a laker-specific issue. Here, he is wrong. Maybe instead of trying to fix the league for the Lakers' benefit the Lakers could rely less on one guys aging legs, or hire a coach who doesn't run an up tempo style back to back without having the personnel to do it.