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Nelson Cruz: Appeal or No Appeal

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I respect your opinions but he didn't touch the ball....he stabbed at it and it was on his glove side. No way there is an error given on that play but, IMO the ball shoulda been caught
The play is irrelevant though. That's not why they lost the game.
 

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Cruz's miss was a routine play for a major league outfielder. No debate about that. He got a late jump, which he is prone to do, and the rest is history.
 

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Cruz's miss was a routine play for a major league outfielder. No debate about that. He got a late jump, which he is prone to do, and the rest is history.
It was slicing away and he never had a chance because of how he was positioned before the play. Most players are going to have trouble making that play if they aren't in correct position to start. I've heard conflicting reports that it was he who shaded in and I've also heard that he was put in the wrong spot. Regardless, the play wasn't made and it's not something worth holding a grudge over. They had other chances to win the series and didn't do it.
 

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I don't hold a grudge at all. In fact, after Josh put us up by 2 in the 10th I thought it was curtains for the Cards. No way can you blow a lead twice! No one play or player lost that WS. But Wash going with Oliver to put it away? I'll always have trouble with that one.
 

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I don't hold a grudge at all. In fact, after Josh put us up by 2 in the 10th I thought it was curtains for the Cards. No way can you blow a lead twice! No one play or player lost that WS. But Wash going with Oliver to put it away? I'll always have trouble with that one.


no question....group effort. The stage was to big for a few guys
 

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lol.....he catches that ball and it Hello World Series Champs.....you couldn't be any more wrong with this irrelevant stuff
I can pinpoint 10 or so plays in that game that make them world series champions if they go the other way. Singling one out above the rest is ridiculous. The fact is they had the lead the next inning and still lost, so focusing on anything prior is pointless. It happened.
 

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Team sport and we lost the series for many reasons. I just know we win if Cruz doesn't have his nuts in his throat. Reminds me if the young player begging the ball isn't hit to him.

We win if Pettis doesn't have his head up his ass and actually has his best outfielders out there instead of an injured right fielder, and also if he has the correct alignment.
 

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I can pinpoint 10 or so plays in that game that make them world series champions if they go the other way. Singling one out above the rest is ridiculous. The fact is they had the lead the next inning and still lost, so focusing on anything prior is pointless. It happened.

Exactly! A teams loss never rests on the shoulders of one individual or one play... saying things like this over simplifies the game.
 

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I can pinpoint 10 or so plays in that game that make them world series champions if they go the other way. Singling one out above the rest is ridiculous. The fact is they had the lead the next inning and still lost, so focusing on anything prior is pointless. It happened.


there is no next inning if he catches the ball.
What part of catch World Series Champs are you missing
2 outs bottom of the 9th

crazy talk....you just what to tap dance.
 

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I respect your opinions but he didn't touch the ball....he stabbed at it and it was on his glove side. No way there is an error given on that play but, IMO the ball shoulda been caught

going back on it... its on his right side or his throwing arm side. To put the loss all on this one play is sort of lame as Rev has stated as well.

cruz2.jpg
 

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going back on it... its on his right side or his throwing arm side. To put the loss all on this one play is sort of lame as Rev has stated as well.

cruz2.jpg
Yeah, I am giving this one up. He's too hung up on one moment from an 11inning game.
 

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In the scenario listed... IMO...Perez would be moved to acquire Stanton.



That said, I prefer to upgrade the rotation more - and pass on the RF "power bat".
Sign Choo. Sign McCann.
Sign Garza. Trade for Price.

OF - Martin, E. Beltre, Choo
INF - Beltre, Andrus, Kinsler, Moreland, McCann/(Soto or AJ)

Rotation
Yu
Price
Garza
Harrison
Holland


Nice list, but you might be smokin something while listening to this:

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going back on it... its on his right side or his throwing arm side. To put the loss all on this one play is sort of lame as Rev has stated as well.

cruz2.jpg


well I understand the click this board has going, so I wouldn't expect much different.

You go to the wall, not jump and stab at the ball still two steps from the wall.

also....never pinned the entire loss on Cruz....said group effort but that catch seals the championship and was far and away the biggest choke of the night
 

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Had he been positioned properly to begin with, yes it should've been caught

But that didn't happen, it was out of his reach as a result, that was as much coaching as it was Cruz
 

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Had he been positioned properly to begin with, yes it should've been caught

But that didn't happen, it was out of his reach as a result, that was as much coaching as it was Cruz
Hey I think I tried to say that earlier...it sounds better coming from you though.
 

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Hey I think I tried to say that earlier...it sounds better coming from you though.

Sorry, I'm not allowed to chime in with my opinion, b/c you already shared the same opinion?

If that wasn't snarky, I apologize, but it sure did seem like it
 

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Just as realistic as the trading for Stanton scenario

true, but I will admit you could have said the same thing about my scenario.
 
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