Nelson Cruz: Appeal or No Appeal

[bradw516]

Dunno how it will translate to the majors, but at least Butler walks a lot and has a high OBP.

 

[RevSader]

So you believe Cruz is not a cheater, even though there is ample evidence connecting him to a clinic where banned substances were issued to several players, including Cruz. Just asking.

I don't believe using PEDs is cheating at all. So boom mind blown. Circumstantial evidence can be ample, but it's still circumstantial. Throwing him under the bus, because he gets suspended is petulant.

 

[romeo212000]

Dunno how it will translate to the majors, but at least Butler walks a lot and has a high OBP.

We'll see. Maybe he'll be the surprise of the season and do what Mitch did for us in 2010.

 

[RevSader]

Dunno how it will translate to the majors, but at least Butler walks a lot and has a high OBP.

Every Ranger stops walking once they reach the majors.

 

[RevSader]

Well he's gonna have to figure out how to pick it back up.

All 25 of them are going to have to pick it up.

 

[TheRangerDude]

He will take whatever the best offer is, be it to DH or to play outfield. Clearly by him taking his suspension, money is his motivating factor. So if he gets a better offer to DH for a team vs. playing defense, you can bet he will be DHing.

I'm not sure exactly how him taking the suspension makes money the motivating factor for him. It was just simply the smartest business decision for him. Who is to say the team didn't encourage him to take it as well. I mean what would it make the Rangers look like if they are telling him to appeal. Anyway, the two events have nothing to do with each other. Is it possible he excepts a job as a DH, sure... is it likely that team will only sign him to DH... No.

 

[romeo212000]

I don't believe using PEDs is cheating at all. So boom mind blown. Circumstantial evidence can be ample, but it's still circumstantial. Throwing him under the bus, because he gets suspended is petulant.

You're gonna have to use smaller words for him.

 

[steelparrot]

I don't believe using PEDs is cheating at all. So boom mind blown. Circumstantial evidence can be ample, but it's still circumstantial. Throwing him under the bus, because he gets suspended is petulant.

These idiots didnt pay in cash.

They have the check images/credit card records. There is a reason they all took it but Arod.

 

[Xx srs bsns xX]

I don't believe using PEDs is cheating at all.

Wait... what?


I know you still have to be able to see & hit the ball (PED's do not help with that aspect)... butttttt everything else it helps with.

 

[romeo212000]

These idiots didnt pay in cash.

They have the check images/credit card records. There is a reason they all took it but Arod.

Was thinking the same thing. How in the hell do you get caught?

 

[RevSader]

Wait... what?


I know you still have to be able to see & hit the ball (PED's do not help with that aspect)... butttttt everything else it helps with.

Clean/Natural they are just buzzwords. I am not going to get caught up in projecting morality on people that play a game for a living. If the MLB believed PEDs were as bad as they say, they would have done something 20 years ago.

 

[jaar01]

I don't believe using PEDs is cheating at all. So boom mind blown. Circumstantial evidence can be ample, but it's still circumstantial. Throwing him under the bus, because he gets suspended is petulant.

I'm not throwing him under the bus. But MLB thinks using PEDs IS cheating. As do most of the players. Gaining an unfair advantage by violating a well-documented law prohibiting certain banned substances is what it is. I like Nellie. We'll certainly miss his bat. But if he didn't cheat, he'd be in the lineup tonite vs the Angels. Pretty straight-forward.

 

[RevSader]

These idiots didnt pay in cash.

They have the check images/credit card records. There is a reason they all took it but Arod.

Sorry if I don't trust the motives of a company that sold the evidence to the highest bidder.

 

[bradw516]

I'm not sure exactly how him taking the suspension makes money the motivating factor for him. It was just simply the smartest business decision for him. Who is to say the team didn't encourage him to take it as well. I mean what would it make the Rangers look like if they are telling him to appeal. Anyway, the two events have nothing to do with each other. Is it possible he excepts a job as a DH, sure... is it likely that team will only sign him to DH... No.

So if someone makes the smartest business decision, what reason do they use to justify it? Increasing profit. He stands to make more money next year as a free agent by taking his suspension and getting it out of the way. Therefore, his decision is ultimately motivated by making more money next year. I'm not blaming him for the decision, merely making the point that it all boils down to getting a bigger contract. I seriously doubt he was encouraged one way or the other by the team.

 

[RevSader]

I'm not throwing him under the bus. But MLB thinks using PEDs IS cheating. As do most of the players. Gaining an unfair advantage by violating a well-documented law prohibiting certain banned substances is what it is. I like Nellie. We'll certainly miss his bat. But if he didn't cheat, he'd be in the lineup tonite vs the Angels. Pretty straight-forward.

Be mad at the FO for not having anyone to replace him then.

 

[RevSader]

I really don't buy all the player's outrage against using PEDs. To me it comes off as feigned outrage.

 

[jaar01]

FO knew this was coming. And all reports are that JD tried to get a big bat. Didn't work for the pricetags other teams were asking. Not mad at all. Time to move on and make the best of what we've got.

 

[pegasusredleg]

Based on his stats? He's hitting .291...

Look at the RR outfield roster. Butler's numbers may not send a tingle down our leg but he is the best of the mediocre we have down there. His upside is a .321 BA and .952 OPS against LHP. Again against AAA pitching.

What are our other options? None really other than trying to get mediocre players on waiver trade deals. How much will that cost and what will be the return...another crap shoot.

I also looked at the Frisco RR AA team roster. No help there. All of their OFs seem to be career minor league players batting around .250 or lower with no power. Our upper minor league teams are absent what we need right now.

 

[RevSader]

FO knew this was coming. And all reports are that JD tried to get a big bat. Didn't work for the pricetags other teams were asking. Not mad at all. Time to move on and make the best of what we've got.

They knew about this in January.

 

[pegasusredleg]

Even if he appealed, there is no promise it gets entirely delayed till next year. The MLB seems to be pretty adamant about making a show of these suspensions at the moment. I'd rather him take the suspension now, and than appeal get really hot and then be suspended for parts of the season, the post season, and the start of next season.

ESPN reported that A-Rod will appeal and that the appeal process could take up to 45 days.