49ers DB Chris Culliver tears ACL

[WizardHawk]

49ers DB Chris Culliver tears ACL, out for season

Report: 49ers DB Chris Culliver tears ACL, out for season - CBSSports.com

On top of Crabtree, now they lose a DB who is a vital part of their defense. They will now have to lean on Nnamdi Asomugha more.

You never want to see serious injuries, even from your rivals. The amount of ACL injuries in recent years is off the charts. Obviously I'm not going to be too upset over injuries not on my team, but I want no excuses from their fans when they get beat twice this year. I'd rather see both teams healthy.

 

[RegentDenali]

XjuiceX claimed Harvin's hip was karma for ESPN posters mocking the crabtree injury.

Wonder how this factors into his logic....

 

[WizardHawk]

Add a fractured right hand to 49'er LB Patrick Willis. Shouldn't keep him from making the regular season, but the injuries are starting to pile up for the 9'rs.

 

[WizardHawk]

I don't care how some of the 49'er trolls react to things. We expect that from some of their base. I'd rather stay above that and prove what douche waffles they are by not stooping to their level.

 

[dredinis21]

XjuiceX claimed Harvin's hip was karma for ESPN posters mocking the crabtree injury.

Wonder how this factors into his logic....

You actually pay attention to that clown?

Why?

 

[jakedog56]

I don't care how some of the 49'er trolls react to things. We expect that from some of their base. I'd rather stay above that and prove what douche waffles they are by not stooping to their level.

The 9ers were incredibly injury free 2 years ago and had no real major injuries last year to starters until the Manningham and then JSmith injuries.

They have been an extremely healthy team overall the last two years. It had to start catching up with them at some point.

Willis' injury seems relatively minor but it could affect his ability to wrap guys up if he has to wear a cast or excessive tape but he has time to recover before the regular season.

 

[dredinis21]

I don't care how some of the 49'er trolls react to things. We expect that from some of their base. I'd rather stay above that and prove what douche waffles they are by not stooping to their level.

How does one become a douche waffle and how exactly do you make one of those? I know what douche is and I know what a waffle is, but I'm having a hard time putting together a recipe for that...surely you can help?

:rollseyes:

 

[WizardHawk]

How does one become a douche waffle and how exactly do you make one of those? I know what douche is and I know what a waffle is, but I'm having a hard time putting together a recipe for that...surely you can help?

:rollseyes:

I think you missed the point. I wasn't trolling or taunting. I was saying ignore the trolls and douche waffles and keep the talk to the topic without starting wars. There are those who cannot control themselves on both sides. Every team has their trolls. You do have to admit there have been an influx of DW's since the ESPN chat close down.

BTW,
Urban Dictionary: douche waffle
If you can't agree that trolls on both sides fit that description then you just aren't being honest.

 

[seahawksfan234]

Honestly I'm getting tired of the injury reports on other teams.

Michael Crabtree gets injured, Seahawk fans celebrate like they just won the division.

Percy Harvin gets injured, 49ers fans celebrate like they just avenged their 13-42 loss.

Just wish the season would start already so we can actually get to real football talk instead of comparing injuries.

 

[dredinis21]

I think you missed the point. I wasn't trolling or taunting. I was saying ignore the trolls and douche waffles and keep the talk to the topic without starting wars. There are those who cannot control themselves on both sides. Every team has their trolls. You do have to admit there have been an influx of DW's since the ESPN chat close down.

BTW,
Urban Dictionary: douche waffle
If you can't agree that trolls on both sides fit that description then you just aren't being honest.

I was just poking a little fun is all. I didn't think you were taunting, I just found the phrase funny as I have honestly not heard those two words put together before.

 

[boogiewithstu2007]

Man.... You hate seeing these injuries in training camp ... It's bad enough when they happen in the pre-season but in #@ing training camp there not even playing with contact for the most part... dam..

 

[dredinis21]

This is a legit question for the masses as I don't typically tally up pre-season injuries. Is it that there are more injuries this pre-season then in seasons past or are they just major injuries happening frequently enough so it seems worse?

 

[dredinis21]

The 9ers were incredibly injury free 2 years ago and had no real major injuries last year to starters until the Manningham and then JSmith injuries.

They have been an extremely healthy team overall the last two years. It had to start catching up with them at some point.

Willis' injury seems relatively minor but it could affect his ability to wrap guys up if he has to wear a cast or excessive tape but he has time to recover before the regular season.

Niners have had their share of injuries as well, maybe not the extent of other teams but last year alone, we had major contributors like Staley, Iupati, Hunter, Manningham, K Williams, Justin Smith, and Aldon Smith either miss time or have surgery immediately after the season was over.

As far as Willis, I actually don't worry about that because he has had multiple hand/wrist injuries, including his last season at Ole Miss, where he played and dominated with a cast. I'm more worried about how our WR situation is going to shake out then what's going on with Willis.

 

[Golden Spur]

This is a legit question for the masses as I don't typically tally up pre-season injuries. Is it that there are more injuries this pre-season then in seasons past or are they just major injuries happening frequently enough so it seems worse?

The news has mucho impact when players like Harvin or Culliver go down - they were going to be intriguing stories for the league this year, for varying reasons (playmaking and controversy).

 

[dredinis21]

The news has mucho impact when players like Harvin or Culliver go down - they were going to be intriguing stories for the league this year, for varying reasons (playmaking and controversy).

But its Pitta and others out for the season or much of it as well. So are you saying because it is happening to known players that it seems worse, not necessarily that there are MORE injuries? I could buy that.

 

[WizardHawk]

Honestly I'm getting tired of the injury reports on other teams.

Michael Crabtree gets injured, Seahawk fans celebrate like they just won the division.

Percy Harvin gets injured, 49ers fans celebrate like they just avenged their 13-42 loss.

Just wish the season would start already so we can actually get to real football talk instead of comparing injuries.

Camp injuries is always a big topic of discussion. Sure, you see fans of rival teams discussing those more, but isn't that expected? I'm not all excited over SF getting injuries. As I said I'd rather my rivals be full strength so when we play them there are no excuses on either side of the outcome. I just like high quality football.

I was just poking a little fun is all. I didn't think you were taunting, I just found the phrase funny as I have honestly not heard those two words put together before.

Yeah, just making sure some of the others didn't see it that way. I actually first heard that phrase on the radio in a commercial and my daughter laughed for at least 5 minutes over it. She still giggles every time she hears it. I guess we all pick up phrases from our kids don't we? I have to admit I had a chuckle over it myself.

This is a legit question for the masses as I don't typically tally up pre-season injuries. Is it that there are more injuries this pre-season then in seasons past or are they just major injuries happening frequently enough so it seems worse?

I don't think there are more injuries overall league wide than there have been in past decades, but it does seem like the ACL's and a couple of other more common ones today are taking over from some of the older injuries. No idea why specific injuries may be in the rise and why we seems to see more of them in camp than during the season, but it does happen every year. I know some believe artificial turf has added to it, but I don't think most teams practice in camp on it. If it was turf/shoe related I'm sure teams would spend whatever they had to to address it. They lose millions on some of these injuries.

 

[Logicallylethal]

Is it me or are there more injuries that have resulted in players being out for the season this year's training camp?!

 

[jakedog56]

Niners have had their share of injuries as well, maybe not the extent of other teams but last year alone, we had major contributors like Staley, Iupati, Hunter, Manningham, K Williams, Justin Smith, and Aldon Smith either miss time or have surgery immediately after the season was over.

As far as Willis, I actually don't worry about that because he has had multiple hand/wrist injuries, including his last season at Ole Miss, where he played and dominated with a cast. I'm more worried about how our WR situation is going to shake out then what's going on with Willis.

I don't know how you define "fair share", but the truth of the matter is that the 9ers had a fairly incredible lack of injuries to key players in the 2011 season, and were still one of the least injured teams in the 2012 season.

It was well-documented that in 2011 the 9ers lost very few games with injuries to starters. In 2012, this trend basically continued.

Almost every player out there plays with injuries to some extent. Staley, Iupati, and Aldon Smith missed no games to injury, so they are immediately eleminated from this discussion. K.Williams was not a key contributor by any stretch of the imagination, so he is out. I will give you Hunter but I consider him borderline. That would be like Seahawk fans saying that if Turbin was injured it would be a significent loss (highly debatable).

That leaves Manningham and JSmith. As everyone knows, the JSmith injury was huge as it showed what a true impact player he really is (one of the best DEs in the game today).

That is very few key injuries over the course of 2 years. You can contribute this to conditioning, training, the training and rehab staff, and having players that are not injury prone. So kudos to SF on these points. But this is the NFL and it is a physically violent game where anyone can get hurt at anytime. Therefore, you also have to say that the 9ers have been extremely lucky in this sense.

Add to it that Harbaugh has a tendancy to make pretty much all of his defensive starter play 90+% of the snaps, you would have to assume that at some point this string is going to snap.

I don't wish injuries on any of the players, but I have already predicted that the 9ers will suffer more critical injuries this year then in the last couple of years and so far it has already proven true. At some point the odds are going to tip and health will become more of an issue.

 

[dredinis21]

Jake, with all due respect, I have watched every Niner game for three decades now. Comparing Turbin to Hunter is laughable, not in talent but in the role each plays in their respective offenses. Gore is a couple years older then Lynch and has been nicked up throughout his career. Hunter was a guy that truly spelled Gore in terms of running between the tackles. His loss was felt. As far as Kyle Williams, I will disagree with you on his worth only because he was multi-dimensional. You will look at his WR stats and assume he was a joke. i look at him post-Alex Smith and his contributions to ST as a key factor as well. If you want to discount injuries to guys who don't miss time, that's fair, although I disagree because we aren't talking about a pulled hammy here. Staley and Aldon both tore their labrums halfway through the season and I def believe it affected their play. Iupati had a knee procedure done immediately after the Super Bowl and it wasn't documented as to what it was as far as I know or have read.

I do agree that we have been somewhat lucky with the health of Justin Smith and Ray McDonald given their 85+% snap rates but based on this year's draft, I am assuming that will be ending soon.

Lastly, I didn't say FAIR share, I simply said their share, meaning it is not as if they have been injury free. Our injuries just haven't happened to our starters as frequently as others.

 

[dredinis21]

Camp injuries is always a big topic of discussion. Sure, you see fans of rival teams discussing those more, but isn't that expected? I'm not all excited over SF getting injuries. As I said I'd rather my rivals be full strength so when we play them there are no excuses on either side of the outcome. I just like high quality football.

Yeah, just making sure some of the others didn't see it that way. I actually first heard that phrase on the radio in a commercial and my daughter laughed for at least 5 minutes over it. She still giggles every time she hears it. I guess we all pick up phrases from our kids don't we? I have to admit I had a chuckle over it myself.

I don't think there are more injuries overall league wide than there have been in past decades, but it does seem like the ACL's and a couple of other more common ones today are taking over from some of the older injuries. No idea why specific injuries may be in the rise and why we seems to see more of them in camp than during the season, but it does happen every year. I know some believe artificial turf has added to it, but I don't think most teams practice in camp on it. If it was turf/shoe related I'm sure teams would spend whatever they had to to address it. They lose millions on some of these injuries.

I remember in college, we had a sports doctor meet with all the athletes pretty much begging us to wear low cut shoes as opposed to high tops and keeping what we cross train with basic. His reasoning was that as shoes become more supportive of the ankle in preventing ankle sprains, it puts an overabundance of pressure on other joints such as our knees and hips. Made sense as he explained old school chucks and ankles sprains being the big injury in the NBA in the 60's and ACL issues being the bigger issue now with better shoe technology helping stabilize and support the ankles. I don't know if this applies as I have been a water creature and wearing cleats never was my thing, but I thought it was semi-pertinent and am curious as to what you guys may think.