Who are the five most overrated QB's/Teams in the NFL?

[JDM]

In their matchups Eli was facing an awful defense and Brady was facing one of the best pass defending defenses in the league.

 

[France_Steve]

Don't include the game the referees saved you. Wilson has talent, but I'm not convinced he's a franchise QB. IMO, Seattle will look for, if not, have a new QB in 2 seasons.

I disagree. Even if Wilson never gets better than he was last season he is an above average nfl qb. He had the best passer rating in the league the last 8 games. I don't think he will get worse, and I haven't really heard anyone else with that opinion either.

 

[France_Steve]

In their matchups Eli was facing an awful defense and Brady was facing one of the best pass defending defenses in the league.

I know fantasy football is not a great barometer of skill, but Eli was my qb last year and he really screwed me. had several games last year where he scored less than ten points. Really unpredictable. Like when they got crushed by the falcons 34-0.

 

[JDM]

I know fantasy football is not a great barometer of skill, but Eli was my qb last year and he really screwed me. had several games last year where he scored less than ten points. Really unpredictable. Like when they got crushed by the falcons 34-0.

I don't give a shit about his fantasy performance, but his inconsistency is what sets his brother apart. He has had some bad playoff games, and he has had some games that ended badly against good defenses, but I would still easily rather have Peyton with a game on the line. He is a damn good quarterback, playoff shortcomings and all. His brother played well with some good defenses, and earned those Super Bowl wins. Peyton never had a defense like Eli's. That defense consistently made plays and stopped some very good offenses with the game on the line. Also, while he deserves credit for great drives late, neither defense he played in the Super Bowl was all that good. The 18-1 defense had a decent season in terms of points, but some games were over real quickly and numbers are skewed a bit as a result, I believe. The other defense was bad.

Eli will probably end up in the hall on the strength of two Super Bowl victories, but he's not Peyton. If he didn't share a last name I'm not sure people keep trying to make that a real discussion.

 

[HaroldSeattle]

I don't give a shit about his fantasy performance, but his inconsistency is what sets his brother apart. He has had some bad playoff games, and he has had some games that ended badly against good defenses, but I would still easily rather have Peyton with a game on the line. He is a damn good quarterback, playoff shortcomings and all. His brother played well with some good defenses, and earned those Super Bowl wins. Peyton never had a defense like Eli's. That defense consistently made plays and stopped some very good offenses with the game on the line. Also, while he deserves credit for great drives late, neither defense he played in the Super Bowl was all that good. The 18-1 defense had a decent season in terms of points, but some games were over real quickly and numbers are skewed a bit as a result, I believe. The other defense was bad.

Eli will probably end up in the hall on the strength of two Super Bowl victories, but he's not Peyton. If he didn't share a last name I'm not sure people keep trying to make that a real discussion.

Personally..after winning two Super Bowls, his last name doesn't have to be Manning to be considered for the hall. Eli may not have the tools that Peyton has, but he is clutch in the playoffs and that has to count for something.

 

[JDM]

No. The hall is definitely legit. But comparing him to Peyton is not.

 

[cdumler7]

I don't give a shit about his fantasy performance, but his inconsistency is what sets his brother apart. He has had some bad playoff games, and he has had some games that ended badly against good defenses, but I would still easily rather have Peyton with a game on the line. He is a damn good quarterback, playoff shortcomings and all. His brother played well with some good defenses, and earned those Super Bowl wins. Peyton never had a defense like Eli's. That defense consistently made plays and stopped some very good offenses with the game on the line. Also, while he deserves credit for great drives late, neither defense he played in the Super Bowl was all that good. The 18-1 defense had a decent season in terms of points, but some games were over real quickly and numbers are skewed a bit as a result, I believe. The other defense was bad.

Eli will probably end up in the hall on the strength of two Super Bowl victories, but he's not Peyton. If he didn't share a last name I'm not sure people keep trying to make that a real discussion.

I think Peyton's shortcomings in the playoffs are very overrated. People look at the record and just assume he has played horrible in the playoffs. He actually has a top 10 Quarterback Rating in history. So one should be able to see that those losses in the playoffs cannot be squarely placed on Peyton's shoulders. Yes he is the most influential player in the game but many of those games that he lost the defense just fell apart against good offenses. Just like you said the Patriots had bad defenses so did the Colts at times. If they weren't playing with a big lead they really struggled.

 

[JDM]

He's had some bad games. If you go on a game by game basis he has lost more than his share.

 

[Shenanihanigans]

1) It was not an analysis, it is an opinion.

2) I don't have an opinion on who wins the AFC East

3) RG-3 CAN be a great QB but I like Russell Wilson.

Is this a football board or is this a "get all defensive and piss in your wheaties board?"
If what I said was offensive, just wait til the season starts!

1) semantics are nice.

2) I don't have an opinion about who wins the arc east either.i do have an opinion as to who wins the NFC east where the redskins play, however.

3) the NFL rookie of th year IS a good qb, better than Wilson, and not really debate able here on planet earth.

 

[France_Steve]

1) semantics are nice.

2) I don't have an opinion about who wins the arc east either.i do have an opinion as to who wins the NFC east where the redskins play, however.

3) the NFL rookie of th year IS a good qb, better than Wilson, and not really debate able here on planet earth.

Nobody said RG3 isn't good. everyone knows he is very good. but it is debatable as to who the better qb is. That's why there is lots of debate about it. On message boards, on espn, everywhere. How many times have you seen the question "which young qb is best" or some variation of that? And there is never a consensus. Your opinion that RG3 is better is valid, but when you say it is not even debatable you come off as a huge homer.

 

[JDM]

I don't think it should be debatable. I would be perfectly happy giving up multiple first rounders along with Wilson for RG3. I would laugh off literally 10 first rounders on the other end of that trade.

 

[Pinseeker75]

He can't make the throws a Brady or manning or Rodgers can. I didn't say he sucks. But considering him an elite option is absurdity at his finest. Anyone in their right mind would easily take any of this three before Brees, no questions asked. I bet a lot take RG3 or Russell Wilson over him as well for their upside. Matt Ryan is a comparable option. Brees isn't the no questions asked I take him guy like Brady manning, or Rodgers are.

Brady and the patriots have been the most overrated team and QB the last 5 years. And when your back up comes in and wins 11 games that says more about the system than the QB......

 

[JDM]

Brady and the patriots have been the most overrated team and QB the last 5 years. And when your back up comes in and wins 11 games that says more about the system than the QB......

Considering the same team won 18 games the year before 11 isn't all that impressive to me. I don't know about you, but I consider missing the playoffs a failure of a season.

 

[Pinseeker75]

People say Drew Brees had a bad year last year
63% completion percentage 5177yds 43td 19int with no head coach or OC......
The guy on here saying he is not elite is an idiot. If people are calling it a bad year when you lead the league in Tds and yards then you are the definition of elite.

 

[JDM]

He is not elite. Anyone who would even consider taking drew Brees over Peyton, Brady, or Rodgers would never have a job in the NFL again.

 

[mcro_rave_2001]

People say Drew Brees had a bad year last year
63% completion percentage 5177yds 43td 19int with no head coach or OC......
The guy on here saying he is not elite is an idiot. If people are calling it a bad year when you lead the league in Tds and yards then you are the definition of elite.

Brees is another one of those guys that wants to throw to pad his stats. The Saint can run the ball when they want to but Drew chooses to throw a lot. The Saints were not a balanced offense and that is why they struggled, well that and a terrible defense.

 

[Pinseeker75]

He is not elite. Anyone who would even consider taking drew Brees over Peyton, Brady, or Rodgers would never have a job in the NFL again.

Lol....Brady and manning are living on the past.....move on troll.....colts didn't even want manning. If drew Brees was on the market last year with manning I promise you anyone who knows football would have gone Brees. And most teams who have a good QB will keep theirs over anyone else....

 

[DaBearsShowPride]

He is not elite. Anyone who would even consider taking drew Brees over Peyton, Brady, or Rodgers would never have a job in the NFL again.

JDM just because YOU say he isnt elite does not make it the truth. Its an opinion and Brees has the numbers to be elite if they feel he is elite. I have seen stuff that Brees does that none of those other 3 guys could do and vise versa. If I was running a true west coast system I would take Brees over the other 3. He is elite in his own ways but doesnt have all the tools the other 3 guys have.

 

[Pinseeker75]

Brees is another one of those guys that wants to throw to pad his stats. The Saint can run the ball when they want to but Drew chooses to throw a lot. The Saints were not a balanced offense and that is why they struggled, well that and a terrible defense.

Never understood people who claim stat padding. When your team has the worst D in the history of the league. You have to throw the ball to keep up. Simple....

 

[JDM]

They didn't have a team to win with him, and they had the chance at a very good prospect with the first overall pick.

No one, literally no one in the NFL would take Brees over any of the three I mentioned. If Tom Brady were available and willing to structure his contract so doing so wouldn't cripple their cap, the saints would cut Brees on the spot for him.