Heat vs Pacers ECF

[piss-tons]

Crawford got suspended for the rest of the season after ejecting Duncan. I really hope the NBA does not let Crawford officiate the finals because if they do... RIP Spurs... at least for a game or 2.

 

[TurnUpTheHeat]

Gotta love Heat fans!! Crying about the refs and claiming the "fix" was in, but if the Heat win and someone dares suggest they got even one favorable call, you start crying about that and calling them haters!!

Bottom line is blaming the refs for a loss is

Was this game played that differently from other Heat games the last 3 years?

When's the last time The Big 3 had 16 fouls between them?

 

[ChrisperJ10]

@chrisper I watched that earlier today from the commercial thread, hilarious stuff.

Yeah the one time Duncan looked like he was really happy. He must've just got engaged to his ex-wife then...

 

[Lakers+USC=#1]

Heat fans, no one agree with you guys. You sound stupid. Give it up !

 

[wildturkey]

This is not about a disparity.

I'm sorry, but if you can't put 2+2 together I can't help you. NONE of Indy's top players was in foul trouble, whereas Miamis top 3 nearly all fouled out. That's an advantage for Indy, that's a FACT.

And also the fact that the league ALLOWS Crawford to officiate games like this proves my point. He IS notorious.....so WHY is he allowed to officiate important games? Because the league WANTS these outcomes!

So George being benched at times due to foul issues isn't playing with foul trouble. I guess Vogel just took one of his best players out for the hell of it. All 3 of the players I mentioned had 4 fouls or more, the standard definition for foul trouble considering that's usually the number when your name starts showing up on "foul trouble" graphics in game. So let's see. Foul trouble is 4 or more + Indy players have 4 or more fouls = Indy players had foul trouble. Looks like you're the one that can't add nor recognize facts in front of you. This isn't the first time you've been shown facts and just continue to believe otherwise.

they would not have gotten out rebounded like that if Bosh and Wade were not in foul trouble!!! They have to change hold back their entire game when that happens. There is so much more to foul trouble than "oh geez 4 more and he is out"

I never complain about refs because it goes both ways, this was not even close. In a lot of ways this was very refreshing and reassuring. Look at how much the refs had to do to keep the Heat from winning.

Oh well I am done talking about it.

Not true. Fouls aren't the cause of their low rebounding numbers. Positioning is. Wade is staying on the perimeter and isn't slashing (probably due to injuries). Miami is parking Bosh on the perimeter as a stretch 4 on offense, limiting his offensive rebounding chances. Hibbert is feasting on Miami's lack of size as a result

 

[bksballer89]

I won't say the game was fixed.....I just think Joey Crawford and his crew are terrible.

LBJ 4 fouls in 6 minutes?

 

[BOTSLAYER]

being in foul trouble causes a player to be much less aggressive, especially the important players. That causes low rebounding numbers.

 

[RobToxin]

I won't say the game was fixed.....I just think Joey Crawford and his crew are terrible.

LBJ 4 fouls in 6 minutes?

You won't get an argument out of me on that. I dunno but I would be surmised to believe that the NBA refs have a union and that's the only reason his ass hasn't been fired by now.

 

[Lakers+USC=#1]

I won't say the game was fixed.....I just think Joey Crawford and his crew are terrible.

LBJ 4 fouls in 6 minutes?

But Lebron not fouling for 6 games is cool with you right?

 

[bksballer89]

Honestly I'm pissed about the refs as we;; but it is time to stop talking about the refs now and move on. G4 over and done with.

 

[bksballer89]

But Lebron not fouling for 6 games is cool with you right?

Here is the diff with me and you. I can actually point out 2 or 3 fouls in the game yesterday that shouldn't have been called on LBJ while you have yet to point out some fouls in that 5 game stretch that should have been called.

 

[bksballer89]

It is what it is. Who freaking cares about some stretch at the start of the season against mostly shitty teams when he did not pick up a foul. If you actually watch LBJ on defense you would see that he's not that aggressive on defense when his defender actually have the ball....His aggression usually comes on ball denial.

You seem very obsessed with his stretch of not fouling in early December. Maybe you should start a thread of it instead of bringing up something from 5 months ago on this thread that nobody cares about except for you

 

[Lakers+USC=#1]

Here is the diff with me and you. I can actually point out 2 or 3 fouls in the game yesterday that shouldn't have been called on LBJ while you have yet to point out some fouls in that 5 game stretch that should have been called.

I dont need to point it out, its common sense an aggressive defender like Lebron is impossible to go 5 games without fouling.

 

[Lakers+USC=#1]

It is what it is. Who freaking cares about some stretch at the start of the season against mostly shitty teams when he did not pick up a foul. If you actually watch LBJ on defense you would see that he's not that aggressive on defense when his defender actually have the ball....His aggression usually comes on ball denial.

You seem very obsessed with his stretch of not fouling in early December. Maybe you should start a thread of it instead of bringing up something from 5 months ago on this thread that nobody cares about except for you

Im talking about the stretch in December because this is the same damn player. Im showing you lebron fans how its cool when lebron doesn't get called for any fouls, but have girly fits when he fouls out.

 

[bksballer89]

I dont need to point it out, its common sense an aggressive defender like Lebron is impossible to go 5 games without fouling.

And this is where you're wrong...LBJ is far from an aggressive defender on the ball. If I had to go out on a limp right now, I would be willing to say at least half of his fouls came on a player he was not guarding or an offensive foul.

You watch maybe 20 Heat games at most this year and you think you know it all?

 

[bksballer89]

Im talking about the stretch in December because this is the same damn player. Im showing you lebron fans how its cool when lebron doesn't get called for any fouls, but have girly fits when he fouls out.

Yep you are correct sir....There is a rule in the NBA Rulebook stating that every started must be called for at least 1 foul every single game of the season.

How many minutes of those games in December did you actually see? None of them were on national TV so you're making assumptions without even seeing any of those games outside of highlights on NBATV?

 

[Lakers+USC=#1]

And this is where you're wrong...LBJ is far from an aggressive defender on the ball. If I had to go out on a limp right now, I would be willing to say at least half of his fouls came on a player he was not guarding or an offensive foul.

You watch maybe 20 Heat games at most this year and you think you know it all?

Actually, I never said on ball defense, im talking about being aggressive period, even on offense. But thanks for making my point on what i've been saying for years. Lebron is a great off-the-ball/ help defender, but not so much one on one. Thats why I dont think he should be that high in DPOY rankings.

 

[Lakers+USC=#1]

Yep you are correct sir....There is a rule in the NBA Rulebook stating that every started must be called for at least 1 foul every single game of the season.

How many minutes of those games in December did you actually see? None of them were on national TV so you're making assumptions without even seeing any of those games outside of highlights on NBATV?

And is there a rule thats says a star player cant get 4 fouls in 6 minutes?

 

[ChrisperJ10]

 

[RobToxin]