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I have no idea what that is!

 

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Hmmm pretty cool
 

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When using a juicer much of the fiber is still there, is it not?

One of the biggest things I miss with my diet is smoothies.
Yogurt, Raspberries, Blackberries, Blueberries, Strawberries, Ashwagandha, Honey, Banana, Protein Powder, more Blueberries and pure cranberry juice.
Give it a buzz in the blender.
You win the award for 5 star response. While all the others are 100% valued, they were more added conversation than pulling back layers of the onion.

You are correct - there's plenty of fiber that comes through, especially the soluble kind. However, not compared to the amount of fiber in the whole food. My understanding is: you get way more total nutrition without the solid bulk that that juicer strips away. Way more than if you ate the vegetables because you either can't eat that quantity or would not want to. But, the body is complicated so there may be a rule that says the juice may have 600% more nutrition, but the body wastes it if it's not digested with the fiber. The juicer maker certainly wouldn't tell you that.

That's the heart of my question: If you drink the juice you already are drinking with the oatmeal you are already eating, does that offset the loss of fiber from the juicer... But I really wasn't asking the forum to answer that... I was just stimulating conversation.
 

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I was completely knocked off track. I thought it was the cheerleader thread and Ashwaghandha was a new Nigerian gal who met everyone's criteria.

My acupuncturist told me I needed to eat more bananas and up my potassium and manganese. She said it would stop the leg cramps and spasms..

I'm with Southie. If you can't pronounce an ingredient, don't put it in your mouth.
 

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I was completely knocked off track. I thought it was the cheerleader thread and Ashwaghandha was a new Nigerian gal who met everyone's criteria.

My acupuncturist told me I needed to eat more bananas and up my potassium and manganese. She said it would stop the leg cramps and spasms..

I'm with Southie. If you can't pronounce an ingredient, don't put it in your mouth.
You better start looking at everything you eat. Unless you have a clean diet, most foods have ingredients you can't pronounce.

I'm glad I can pronounce everything in my juice, though celery can be challenging.
 

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For blood pressure and stress. Helps regulate and promote good sleep as well.
I mess around with turmeric - usually with black pepper, ginger, cinnamon and cloves. It's a lot of work, but I create a large batch of "tea" in a pressure cooker - then drink a glass a day as a hydrating drink. I also take a few batches of what left over from the juicer, throw in eggs shells (for calcium and collagen) into the pressure cooker for a vegetable "power stock". I drink that too instead of water.

Those don't taste fabulous, but they are more than drinkable with decent after tastes. Then again, who drinks water for the flavor.
 
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I was completely knocked off track. I thought it was the cheerleader thread and Ashwaghandha was a new Nigerian gal who met everyone's criteria.

My acupuncturist told me I needed to eat more bananas and up my potassium and magnesium. She said it would stop the leg cramps and spasms..

I'm with Southie. If you can't pronounce an ingredient, don't put it in your mouth.
FIFY - There's plenty of manganese in bananas too, but that's more for bone maintenance.
 

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I mess around with turmeric - usually with black pepper, ginger, cinnamon and cloves. It's a lot of work, but I create a large batch of "tea" in a pressure cooker - then drink a glass a day as a hydrating drink. I also take a few batches of what left over from the juicer, throw in eggs shells (for calcium and collagen) into the pressure cooker for a vegetable "power stock". I drink that too instead of water.

Those don't taste fabulous, but they are more than drinkable with decent after tastes. Then again, who drinks water for the flavor.
I take vitamin D3/K2, Magnesium (Glycinate, Taurate and Threonate) and Turmeric every night.
 

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I take vitamin D3/K2, Magnesium (Glycinate, Taurate and Threonate) and Turmeric every night.
Your approach seems too easy, and with BKs approach I can only take the D3 and K2.
 

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I don't use a juicer. So that might disqualify me.

I use a porcelain press for all citrus. I drink a mixture of orange lemon and lime. Can't drink grapefruit because it really messes with several of the meds I take. (I take thirteen different meds every AM and PM.

I do buy 100% fruit juice if I can find it. The real stuff is very rare. Most 100% fruit juices are not. They all have apple juice as a supplement juice with the juice that you want. Most of the time I buy a bag of frozen triple berries. Raspberries, blackberries and blueberries. I have an allergy to strawberries.

I blend the berries into as close a liquid as possible and add orange juice or fat free vanilla Greek yogurt.

I know this doesn't completely answer your question. But allergies and meds can really push things completely sideways.
The topic is more a deeper dive into nutrition and we all have certain qualifications within that realm. Your answer offers a lot of discussion value.

While it's true many juices are mixed with apple and grape, rarely is orange juice. Nobody would drink cranberry without a sweetener and apple/grape juice makes it sweet and puts 100% on the label.

Those berries just might be the best thing in your diet. As for the yogurt, from most I read from good sources, the fat in a small amount of yogurt is probably healthier than eating it without the fat. Either way that's a good addition to the berries, and the OJ isn't a great juice but if you need it to get the berries down, then it's a fine addition.

And though YT gave the five star answer - you get a bonus point for bringing up something 100% tied to my starting post.... While OJ is discounted for the concentration of sugar, does pairing it with the high fiber of the seeded berries elevate the worthiness of the OJ itself?
 

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Please, for God's sake, anyone wanting to mock my efforts or anyone else's towards being healty, please do so. I personally love contrasting opinions. I know some of the things I try make others shake their heads. For good or bad, we are all wired differently.
 

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Please, for God's sake, anyone wanting to mock my efforts or anyone else's towards being healty, please do so. I personally love contrasting opinions. I know some of the things I try make others shake their heads. For good or bad, we are all wired differently.
I live a sort of healthy lifestyle. I am 62 and have decided I am not willing to go all in Grizzly Adams eat pine bark and blueberries the rest of my life. I have limited my bourbon intake, eat baked chips vs regular when the wife brings the correct one's home, sub nuts for chips most of the time, I really do not eat fried foods at all. I will eat pizza once a week, grab a burger and fries when I want and will get drunk if the mood hits. I am not willing to fully sacrifice the things I like so I can say I live a healthy lifestyle or to even feel a little better.
 

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I live a sort of healthy lifestyle. I am 62 and have decided I am not willing to go all in Grizzly Adams eat pine bark and blueberries the rest of my life. I have limited my bourbon intake, eat baked chips vs regular when the wife brings the correct one's home, sub nuts for chips most of the time, I really do not eat fried foods at all. I will eat pizza once a week, grab a burger and fries when I want and will get drunk if the mood hits. I am not willing to fully sacrifice the things I like so I can say I live a healthy lifestyle or to even feel a little better.
I think that most of us 'try' to do what's best for ourselves.

My problem is that I was exposed for four years to Agent Orange. The killer in it was Dioxin. It's an organic killer so nasty that it was banned for use after the Air Force dumped 19,000,000 gallons on the North and South Vietnam border. Problem was that the U.S. Government didn't want to put 600 people out of work at Hercules and Dupont Chemical companies and kept paying them to make it. They tried storing it in huge fuel tanks and then they authorized them to dump it in the Tonkin Gulf where the U.S. Navy sucked it up, desalinated it and all of the sailors drank it, showered in it and made dinner with it. It screwed up my thyroid, my pancreas and my nervous system. And I was lucky. I have no nerve sensation below my knees, can't tell when I have to go to the bathroom until it's knocking at the door and I don't produce adequate insulin. More than a few of the guys I served with got brain stem cancer and had to wait a couple of years for it to decide whether or not to head south and invade every organ or go north and destroy their brain.

I have to be very careful about eating or drinking anything that has any effect on my liver because it's directly connected to my pancreas or my kidneys because they work i harmony with the liver. Certain juices like grapefruit are strong that they cause certain medications to actually become toxic. Berries on the other hand have more medicinal value than they're given credit for and their sugar is not absorbed easily in the body's fat cells. So at 75, I eat more berries than anything else. Since my acupuncturist says eat more bananas, I'll eat one every other day.

I haven't smoked since 1977 or drank liquor since 1969. Don't know if that's good or bad, but it's got me this far.
 

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As for the yogurt, from most I read from good sources, the fat in a small amount of yogurt is probably healthier than eating it without the fat.
As with most dairy products removing the fat does almost no good and ends up doing a lot of bad.

Wait, what?

Skim milk vs. whole milk.
Skim milk has all the fat removed. What is left? Sugar. WTF do yo want to drink a glass of lactose for?
With the fat, digestion is slowed and the sugars are slowly converted to energy rather than causing a blood sugar spike/Insulin spike and corresponding storage as fat.

Cream...All fat, no sugar. If you prefer some dairy in your coffee, use cream. Heavy cream, not half and half. It's thicker and richer but no sugar.
 

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I live a sort of healthy lifestyle. I am 62 and have decided I am not willing to go all in Grizzly Adams eat pine bark and blueberries the rest of my life. I have limited my bourbon intake, eat baked chips vs regular when the wife brings the correct one's home, sub nuts for chips most of the time, I really do not eat fried foods at all. I will eat pizza once a week, grab a burger and fries when I want and will get drunk if the mood hits. I am not willing to fully sacrifice the things I like so I can say I live a healthy lifestyle or to even feel a little better.
What's the sense in being healthy if you cannot be happy?
I want to die happy, I'm just not ready to die yet!

When you say no fried foods, do you mean battered and deep fried? Of anything using a frying pan?
I fry eggs in butter a few times a week.
 

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What's the sense in being healthy if you cannot be happy?
I want to die happy, I'm just not ready to die yet!

When you say no fried foods, do you mean battered and deep fried? Of anything using a frying pan?
I fry eggs in butter a few times a week.
Battered and deep fried. I have fried eggs, home fries etc nothing deep fried
 

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I mess around with turmeric - usually with black pepper, ginger, cinnamon and cloves. It's a lot of work, but I create a large batch of "tea" in a pressure cooker - then drink a glass a day as a hydrating drink. I also take a few batches of what left over from the juicer, throw in eggs shells (for calcium and collagen) into the pressure cooker for a vegetable "power stock". I drink that too instead of water.

Those don't taste fabulous, but they are more than drinkable with decent after tastes. Then again, who drinks water for the flavor.
Japanese use turmeric and live to be 100.
They eat it once a year!
A little turmeric is good for the liver but eat it every day and it is harmful
 
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