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Series Thread: 1st Round: 3) Kings vs 6) Warriors

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So wait, we all hated Dennis Rodman too?
Rodman was in the exact same boat. For the same reasons. Just like Draymond he was critical to championships and is a Hall of Famer.

Better comparison than mine to Beverley.
 

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Dirty play

Like I said, Sabonis started it and he deserved everything they he got. This wasn't a nut shot to Lebron, this dude instigated it. All that being said, nobody feels sorry for the sore loser Klay and instigator himself Draymond. Those kind of guys like Draymond are never going to get the benefit of the doubt.
 

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Rodman was in the exact same boat. For the same reasons. Just like Draymond he was critical to championships and is a Hall of Famer.

Better comparison than mine to Beverley.
Draymond is smarter and a better player. Can't imagine Rodman having the on air career Draymond is going to have either. But a lot of similarities.
 

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Like I said, Sabonis started it and he deserved everything they he got. This wasn't a nut shot to Lebron, this dude instigated it. All that being said, nobody feels sorry for the sore loser Klay and instigator himself Draymond. Those kind of guys like Draymond are never going to get the benefit of the doubt.
Klay is pretty bitter at this point
 

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Draymond is smarter and a better player. Can't imagine Rodman having the on air career Draymond is going to have either. But a lot of similarities.
I would disagree with better player. Better at not being a drag on the offense I suppose, but Rodman could do some things in defense that Draymond can't come close to.
 

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I would disagree with better player. Better at not being a drag on the offense I suppose, but Rodman could do some things in defense that Draymond can't come close to.
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I would disagree with better player. Better at not being a drag on the offense I suppose, but Rodman could do some things in defense that Draymond can't come close to.
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I would disagree with better player. Better at not being a drag on the offense I suppose, but Rodman could do some things in defense that Draymond can't come close to.
Besides defense, Rodman was arguably the best rebounder of all-time
 

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Luckily there is no way on this particular subject you may have on homer goggles
Smaller than your hater ones.

If you were here more you'd know I'm a pretty straight shooter as far as homer takes. I get the issues with Dray, and I am fine with this suspension. They could have just fined him but I respect what they are trying to do. Ultimately it's on him to control his shit.

But to call Draymond 'less of a drag' on offense than an almost literally useless offensive player in Rodman is bush league. Draymond is an excellent offensive player in every way except scoring and he's still better than Rodman at that. Meanwhile he leads the team in assists and won 4 rings doing it. Defensively Rodman was obviously a better rebounder. Dray is every bit as good at other things and better in some like being a defensive coordinator on the floor.

Draymond is objectively a significantly better player than Rodman.
 

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Like I said, Sabonis started it and he deserved everything they he got. This wasn't a nut shot to Lebron, this dude instigated it. All that being said, nobody feels sorry for the sore loser Klay and instigator himself Draymond. Those kind of guys like Draymond are never going to get the benefit of the doubt.
You are claiming LeBron wasn’t the instigator of that incident?

Let me rub my package all over your forehead and let’s see how you respond.
 

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Smaller than your hater ones.

If you were here more you'd know I'm a pretty straight shooter as far as homer takes. I get the issues with Dray, and I am fine with this suspension. They could have just fined him but I respect what they are trying to do. Ultimately it's on him to control his shit.

But to call Draymond 'less of a drag' on offense than an almost literally useless offensive player in Rodman is bush league. Draymond is an excellent offensive player in every way except scoring and he's still better than Rodman at that. Meanwhile he leads the team in assists and won 4 rings doing it. Defensively Rodman was obviously a better rebounder. Dray is every bit as good at other things and better in some like being a defensive coordinator on the floor.

Draymond is objectively a significantly better player than Rodman.
A hater take? It is fun that you can take someone believing he is a Hall of Famer, but not as good as Rodman as a hater take, while still believing you are not a homer on it. Less of a drag was not a dig at the value Green has on offense, but acknowledging Rodman was lacking there. I hope you did not pull a muscle stretching to be butt hurt on that one.

Significantly better than Rodman? You are entering Koy levels of homerism here bud.
 

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A hater take? It is fun that you can take someone believing he is a Hall of Famer, but not as good as Rodman as a hater take, while still believing you are not a homer on it. Less of a drag was not a dig at the value Green has on offense, but acknowledging Rodman was lacking there. I hope you did not pull a muscle stretching to be butt hurt on that one.

Significantly better than Rodman? You are entering Koy levels of homerism here bud.
This place is about arguing so go ahead but you're wrong. Dray is better than you give him credit for and that's not a homer take.
 

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This place is about arguing so go ahead but you're wrong. Dray is better than you give him credit for and that's not a homer take.
We are fine to disagree on it. Thinking the gap is significant and that preferring Rodman is laughable removes you from serious conversation though. You aggression on this is just fucking weird, but you have at it. I would be curious to here @CitySushi take on this, as he has respectable views on basketball and would come from a similar fandom.
 

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We are fine to disagree on it. Thinking the gap is significant and that preferring Rodman is laughable removes you from serious conversation though. You aggression on this is just fucking weird, but you have at it. I would be curious to here @CitySushi take on this, as he has respectable views on basketball and would come from a similar fandom.
Lotta strawmen and mischaracterizations here. Why u mad?
 

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Lotta strawmen and mischaracterizations here. Why u mad?
Not mad, just confused by your approach. You went aggressive right away over a take that while we can disagree on is not outrageous for either side to have. Especially when my core take was Green is a clear Hall of Famer.
 

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Not mad, just confused by your approach. You went aggressive right away over a take that while we can disagree on is not outrageous for either side to have. Especially when my core take was Green is a clear Hall of Famer.
That's what I'm talking about, "aggressive". Really? And I never said preferring Rodman was "laughable". I just don't agree with your take and you seem peeved by this. Both players are HOFers. They are comparable as defensive players and Green is significantly better on offense and that's not a homer take.
 
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