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Asking for ballots to be thrown out is not the same as telling election officials to "find" the exact number of votes he needed to win the election.

The fact that this needs to be explained to you again speaks volume about you
I don’t buy those media reports or accusations .I have heard from day one , liberals saying this is the one , we got him this time only to find out it isn’t so . It turns out the media reports and accusations weren’t true .

Trump is losing support for one huge reason , the vax . The 2nd reason is he trusted fauci and Birx who lied to him . The 3rd reason is his choices to fill cabinet and govt positions starting with Jeff sessions and bill Barr as AG

i dont agree with your premise
 

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I don’t buy those media reports or accusations .I have heard from day one , liberals saying this is the one , we got him this time only to find out it isn’t so . It turns out the media reports and accusations weren’t true .

Trump is losing support for one huge reason , the vax . The 2nd reason is he trusted fauci and Birx who lied to him . The 3rd reason is his choices to fill cabinet and govt positions starting with Jeff sessions and bill Barr as AG

i dont agree with your premise
Trump lost the last election due to suburban housewives abandoning him in droves. Maybe it was the vax, but more likely they realized he treated women like trash over the years.
 

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Trump lost the last election due to suburban housewives abandoning him in droves. Maybe it was the vax, but more likely they realized he treated women like trash over the years.
I disagree
 

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I showed you telling someone to do it . Now the FBI. Asset cant breech anything or else entrapment laws come into play as it did with the Whitmer kid napping plot . 2 of the 4 people brought to trial were found not guilty because of he judge found the FBI had entrapped them . The other 2 guys were convicted and their cases are on appeal .

Just to be sure I just went back and read it again. He literally said he orchestrated IT, he got people there. It seems obvious to me that he was referring to the protest outside the building. Nothing in your post indicated that he incited the rioters to crash into the US Capitol.

Sounds like you were happy those guys who tried to kidnap the Governor of Michigan got off, that would be on brand for you.
 

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I don’t buy those media reports or accusations .I have heard from day one , liberals saying this is the one , we got him this time only to find out it isn’t so . It turns out the media reports and accusations weren’t true .

Trump is losing support for one huge reason , the vax . The 2nd reason is he trusted fauci and Birx who lied to him . The 3rd reason is his choices to fill cabinet and govt positions starting with Jeff sessions and bill Barr as AG

i dont agree with your premise

I'm also a bit tired of the MSM bashing. I don't need the MSM to form my opinion, I am perfectly capable of listening to a recording where the President literally pressured the election officials to "find" the exact number of votes he needed and understanding just what he was doing.

Did you even hear the audio of that phone call? I highly doubt it given your ignorance.
 

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Just to be sure I just went back and read it again. He literally said he orchestrated IT, he got people there. It seems obvious to me that he was referring to the protest outside the building. Nothing in your post indicated that he incited the rioters to crash into the US Capitol.

Sounds like you were happy those guys who tried to kidnap the Governor of Michigan got off, that would be on brand for you.
So he done more than trump did to create the dust up? Got it
 

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Btw, I do think trump took the election is rigged a bit too far, but not because of reasons you libs do. I do think the election was systematically rigged. I don’t think anyone of importance is gonna admit it is though. Unfortunately I’m not seeing another republican winning a presidential race again due to the system. Also it was a bit fishy as to how millions of votes appeared sometime after midnight out of the blue
 

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Just to be sure I just went back and read it again. He literally said he orchestrated IT, he got people there. It seems obvious to me that he was referring to the protest outside the building. Nothing in your post indicated that he incited the rioters to crash into the US Capitol.

Sounds like you were happy those guys who tried to kidnap the Governor of Michigan got off, that would be on brand for you.
I am so happy you can make such a claim with me simply telling you what happened. No one should be trying to kidnap anyone for any reason .

that being said the FBI can’t entrap you ( or law enforcement In general ) . The constitution prohibits that . So if the 2 cases on appeal fail then as far as I am concerned they are guilty and should pay for the crime ,

The FBI Isnt and investigative organization like the CIA , it’s a law enforcement agency. Robert Mueller after 9-11 changed it’s focus.

The FBI is now weaponized against political dissent as shown with Russia gate and now the twitter files and the suppression of free speech at their behest . they have done it on all social platforms and the White House is also involved as the twitter files have repeatedly shown .

again he tape shows him telling someone to breach a gate and it’s posted in this thread .

There is tape posted in this thread also shows him being called out by the crowd as a FED

also there is tape in this thread where Senator Cruz asks a high ranking FBI official if Ray Epps was an asset . The answer was no comment. So that means the simple answer of no he wasn’t should have been the answer if he wasn’t

so go back and look at the film
 

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I'm also a bit tired of the MSM bashing. I don't need the MSM to form my opinion, I am perfectly capable of listening to a recording where the President literally pressured the election officials to "find" the exact number of votes he needed and understanding just what he was doing.

Did you even hear the audio of that phone call? I highly doubt it given your ignorance.
I dont give a shit about how you feel about MSM bashing
. When they start doing their jobs unbiasedly then I will trust them but lying about Russia impeachment covid elections climate change and on and on .

as for the audio I have heard , no crime was committed.
I gave you information above as to what is a crime and what wasn’t .
 

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Btw, I do think trump took the election is rigged a bit too far, but not because of reasons you libs do. I do think the election was systematically rigged. I don’t think anyone of importance is gonna admit it is though. Unfortunately I’m not seeing another republican winning a presidential race again due to the system. Also it was a bit fishy as to how millions of votes appeared sometime after midnight out of the blue

I really don't feel like getting into The Big Lie. The right wing propoganda machine has been incredibly effective as so many Pubs actually believe it.

I'll just say this. Trump and the Republicans had every chance to prove their case. The GOP recount in Maicoppa County was a total embarrassment, they finally had to admit Biden actually picked up votes. Trump had every chance in 60 court cases, some involving judges he appointed, to prove his case and he failed.

Every
Single
Time.
 

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I am so happy you can make such a claim with me simply telling you what happened. No one should be trying to kidnap anyone for any reason .

that being said the FBI can’t entrap you ( or law enforcement In general ) . The constitution prohibits that . So if the 2 cases on appeal fail then as far as I am concerned they are guilty and should pay for the crime ,

The FBI Isnt and investigative organization like the CIA , it’s a law enforcement agency. Robert Mueller after 9-11 changed it’s focus.

The FBI is now weaponized against political dissent as shown with Russia gate and now the twitter files and the suppression of free speech at their behest . they have done it on all social platforms and the White House is also involved as the twitter files have repeatedly shown .

again he tape shows him telling someone to breach a gate and it’s posted in this thread .

There is tape posted in this thread also shows him being called out by the crowd as a FED

also there is tape in this thread where Senator Cruz asks a high ranking FBI official if Ray Epps was an asset . The answer was no comment. So that means the simple answer of no he wasn’t should have been the answer if he wasn’t

so go back and look at the film

I am aware that Epps was being called out as FBI by the crowd, what exactly does that prove? I'm supposed to take their word for it, like they actually knew? Sorry.

Again I am not doing you work for you, if there is tape of him instructing people to breach the line well I'll take your word for it. But again he didn't enter the Capitol and most everyone who was charged crossed that line. Maybe not everyone but there were also a ton of people outside the Capitol who were not arrested and after initially listing him the FBI took his name off because he did not enter the building.

As for the Cruz interview that's kind of how the FBI operates, they are pretty close to the vest and Cruz did not deserve more of an answer. This proves nothing.

Again all you have are conspiracy theories.
 

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I dont give a shit about how you feel about MSM bashing
. When they start doing their jobs unbiasedly then I will trust them but lying about Russia impeachment covid elections climate change and on and on .

as for the audio I have heard , no crime was committed.
I gave you information above as to what is a crime and what wasn’t .

My point about your MSM bashing, which I made perfectly clear but obviously went right over your head, is that your sources are every bit as biased as the MSM and also reporting false information.

The info you gave me above was incomplete. Yes it is illegal to bribe or propose quid pro quo, it's not illegal to pressure election officials to throw out votes that you feel are not legitimate. This was the information you provided as to what is legal and illegal. And I agree with all of this.

Know what example you did not give? The example we have here, of a candidate pressuring election officials into actually finding the exact number he would need to change the results.

I have patiently explained to you that asking for individual ballots to be thrown out is not the same as asking officials to actually change the outcome on their own. I would have thought you were smart enough to understand the difference. I stand corrected.
 

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My point about your MSM bashing, which I made perfectly clear but obviously went right over your head, is that your sources are every bit as biased as the MSM and also reporting false information.

The info you gave me above was incomplete. Yes it is illegal to bribe or propose quid pro quo, it's not illegal to pressure election officials to throw out votes that you feel are not legitimate. This was the information you provided as to what is legal and illegal. And I agree with all of this.

Know what example you did not give? The example we have here, of a candidate pressuring election officials into actually finding the exact number he would need to change the results.

I have patiently explained to you that asking for individual ballots to be thrown out is not the same as asking officials to actually change the outcome on their own. I would have thought you were smart enough to understand the difference. I stand corrected.
I already addressed this and ballots are asked to be thrown out if they are considered illegal meaning late , from a dead person , the person doesn’t actually live in the precinct, depending on what state if it was harvested . I thought you had the ability to retain information and didn’t need to be spoon fed .
as for my sources you have no idea what my sources are or whether they are biased or not . You may think you do in your arrogance but you don’t .

as for conspiracy theories , I was told that about Russia gate , I was right , I was told that about issues with elections , I was right ( and no it isn’t about stuffing ballot boxes) I was told that the vax was safe and it was a conspiracy theory If you questioned it. I was right . I was told if you took the vax you won’t get or spread Covid, I said BS and I was right

I was told that social media and the govt didn’t collude to censor people , I was right

soni will take my questioning attitude and supposed conspiracy theories over your spoon fee blind obedience any time .
liberals talk about conspiracy theories when they don’t have the facts or their positions don’t hold up to scrutiny.
 

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What are your sources?

Tell us what your sources are then.
 

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I already addressed this and ballots are asked to be thrown out if they are considered illegal meaning late , from a dead person , the person doesn’t actually live in the precinct, depending on what state if it was harvested . I thought you had the ability to retain information and didn’t need to be spoon fed .
as for my sources you have no idea what my sources are or whether they are biased or not . You may think you do in your arrogance but you don’t .

as for conspiracy theories , I was told that about Russia gate , I was right , I was told that about issues with elections , I was right ( and no it isn’t about stuffing ballot boxes) I was told that the vax was safe and it was a conspiracy theory If you questioned it. I was right . I was told if you took the vax you won’t get or spread Covid, I said BS and I was right

I was told that social media and the govt didn’t collude to censor people , I was right

soni will take my questioning attitude and supposed conspiracy theories over your spoon fee blind obedience any time .
liberals talk about conspiracy theories when they don’t have the facts or their positions don’t hold up to scrutiny.
As I said it's like talking to a brick wall.

Again you are talking about candidates asking for ballots to be thrown out when I am talking about a candidate directly pressuring election officials to change the outcome in his favor. How on Earth can you not see the difference? Is it "arrogant" of me to call you a complete.....never mind. No name calling

Read my lips: There is a difference between challenging specific votes and asking election officials to do what they can to "find" the exact number of votes he needed to change the outcome. I can not believe this still needs to be explained to you. .

You were never told the COVID vaccine prevented you from getting COVID. You are a damned liar when you post this. From the start we were told it will not stop you from getting COVID but it will reduce the symptoms. And they were right and you are wrong. Again.

And no you were not right about "issues with elections". That is a conspiracy theory fed to you by your sources, which you are too chicken to reveal and sources you claim are not bias. We are laughing at you again Dad, every news source today is bias with an agenda. That is most certainly true of sources peddling election conspiracy theories.
 
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As I said it's like talking to a brick wall.

Again you are talking about candidates asking for ballots to be thrown out when I am talking about a candidate directly pressuring election officials to change the outcome in his favor. How on Earth can you not see the difference? Is it "arrogant" of me to call you a complete.....never mind. No name calling

Read my lips: There is a difference between challenging specific votes and asking election officials to do what they can to "find" the exact number of votes he needed to change the outcome. I can not believe this still needs to be explained to you. .

You were never told the COVID vaccine prevented you from getting COVID. You are a damned liar when you post this. From the start we were told it will not stop you from getting COVID but it will reduce the symptoms. And they were right and you are wrong. Again.

And no you were not right about "issues with elections". That is a conspiracy theory fed to you by your sources, which you are too chicken to reveal and sources you claim are not bias. We are laughing at you again Dad, every news source today is bias with an agenda. That is most certainly true of sources peddling election conspiracy theories.
i am sorry i dont buy your premise .

as for what i was told i have it posted here in this thread , 10 minutes of the press , our leaders etc telling us the vaccine would stop covid and i cant believe your got amnesia on that already

you can laugh at me all you want , i put the evidence on tape out there

its not a crime for him to say find votes , he can say it until the cows come home its not a crime , it can be alot of things but its not a crime and the end result was what ? he lost

there is plenty of video i have posted about election fraud . but your limited capacity to think clearly doesnt grasp the full concept the types of fraud that went on in the name of covid and what laws were broken

now i could be all wrong about this stuff however the perception of what was done and how it was done still lingers
 
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