2022 NBA Offseason thread

[fightinfunbags]

Dude, you don't wanna compare draft day horror stories with me.

I'm talking Alfred Hitchcock, Rob Zombie, Sam Raimey, Stephen King level fuckery.

 

[trojanfan12]

I don't think anyone wants Russ at this point.

Teams do or at least will. Not for his play, obviously, but he has value as an expiring deal.

 

[Mecca of the “B” Team]

Teams do or at least will. Not for his play, obviously, but he has value as an expiring deal.

Hey, Fat Windhorst just said on his podcast that the Rockets were willing to do Westbrook for Wall and a 1st round pick swap or a 2 nd rounder and the Lakers declined.

Thoughts?

I'm guessing they really thought Kyrie was in the bag.

Or, another deal lined up.

 

[Wamu]

Teams do or at least will. Not for his play, obviously, but he has value as an expiring deal.

I don't think about stuff like that, good point. But I also don't follow team cap numbers or anything.

 

[trojanfan12]

Hey, Fat Windhorst just said on his podcast that the Rockets were willing to do Westbrook for Wall and a 1st round pick swap or a 2 nd rounder and the Lakers declined.

Thoughts?

I'm guessing they really thought Kyrie was in the bag.

The only trade I heard was the Rockets were trying to get the Lakers to give up a future 1st just to unload Westbrook for worse Westbrook. They'd still be in the position of waiting out a bad contract...only minus one of their future 1sts. Windy did say that he thought Ramona Shelbourne said they offered Wall and a pick swap or something. Not sure why the Rockets would suddenly change from wanting a pick to being willing to give one up.

And who was that guy who said John Wall was a catch and shoot guy

 

[Mecca of the “B” Team]

The only trade I heard was the Rockets were trying to get the Lakers to give up a future 1st just to unload Westbrook for worse Westbrook. They'd still be in the position of waiting out a bad contract...only minus one of their future 1sts. Windy did say that he thought Ramona Shelbourne said they offered Wall and a pick swap or something. Not sure why the Rockets would suddenly change from wanting a pick to being willing to give one up.

And who was that guy who said John Wall was a catch and shoot guy

Mark Spears.

Finisher at the rim, yes.

Catch and shoot, never.... Lol

 

[trojanfan12]

Mark Spears.

Finisher at the rim, yes.

Catch and shoot, never.... Lol

lol

I had to listen to that comment twice. If Wall was a catch and shoot guy...the Lakers would make that trade with the quickness. The main issue with Westbrook is that he's not a catch and shoot guy.

 

[Shanemansj13]

 

[Stakesarehigh]

lol

I had to listen to that comment twice. If Wall was a catch and shoot guy...the Lakers would make that trade with the quickness. The main issue with Westbrook is that he's not a catch and shoot guy.

He doesn't have to be a catch and shoot guy he just has to play within his limits. He won't do that for whatever ungodly reason.

In addition to that how did he go from a positive defender in BPM to a net negative on both offense and defense?

I get skill deterioration but minus an injury it seems shocking he dropped off that bad that quickly.

 

[thunderc]

lol

I had to listen to that comment twice. If Wall was a catch and shoot guy...the Lakers would make that trade with the quickness. The main issue with Westbrook is that he's not a catch and shoot guy.

Well he’s a better catch and shoot guy than off the dribble guy

 

[Stakesarehigh]

Lakers fans talk on THT like he's an asset and he's substantially worse than RW even at RW's worst.

THT is RW on crack cocaine.

 

[ChrisperJ10]

Dude, you don't wanna compare draft day horror stories with me.

I'm talking Alfred Hitchcock, Rob Zombie, Sam Raimey, Stephen King level fuckery.

Haliburton SHOULD be on the Suns.

The player they picked ahead of Haliburton (only two years later) now plays on the same team as him.

 

[Mecca of the “B” Team]

Does Morey have naked pictures of these guys in a male brothel or something?

Weird ass attachment and loyalty towards the Houston days.

 

[ChrisperJ10]

Because the Suns lost in the finals after being up 2-0 and a grip on their FIRST championship, while Jalen Smith averaged a whopping .8 ppg…

I’d bet money that Haliburton would’ve made a difference.

 

[ChrisperJ10]

Does Morey have naked pictures of these guys in a male brothel or something?

Weird ass attachment and loyalty towards the Houston days.

Friends become brothers at the Strip club!

 

[Shanemansj13]

Latest Spurs Intel on Dejounte Murray Trade Rumors

1) When Bleacher Report’s Jake Fischer initially revealed that the Spurs and Hawks were talking about this blockbuster trade, it was insinuated that John Collins would headline San Antonio’s return. However, at the time, I reported that Collins wasn’t headed to the Spurs in the proposed deal.
According to a reliable source, Collins is still not expected to be sent to San Antonio. In fact, in the latest trade talks that took place on Monday, Collins wasn’t in the deal at all.

2) There’s talk that the Spurs are looking to trade Murray for three first round draft picks. I’m told that is incorrect. San Antonio’s asking price for Murray is four first round draft picks with little to no protections. Alternatively, the Spurs want three minimally protected first rounders and two unprotected first round pick swaps.

3) Interestingly, an insider close to the situation says that the Spurs have multiple teams making a strong push for Murray besides the Hawks. One Eastern Conference team, he says, is offering three first round draft picks and a desirable young player in a proposed swap. He also stated that the Minnesota Timberwolves have expressed serious interest in Murray.

4) Multiple sources have told me the only player on the Hawks the Spurs would value as a possible replacement for a first round pick is Onyeka Okongwu. The 21-year-old big man averaged 8.2 points, 5.9 rebounds and 1.3 blocks in 20.7 minutes per game last season.
On the other hand, the Spurs reportedly view Collins’ $125 million contract as a liability. To match salaries, San Antonio would rather take on Danilo Gallinari and his partially guaranteed contract.

5) One scout believes that the Spurs may be interested in AJ Griffin and Tyrese Martin, the two players the Hawks selected in the draft. Griffin was picked 16th in the first round and Martin was picked 51st overall.

6) When might a deal be completed? Gallinari’s contract becomes completely guaranteed on June 29th if he’s not released, so that may motivate the Hawks to put their best offer on the table in the next 24 hours. From San Antonio’s perspective, there doesn’t appear to be much of a rush. Murray is under contract for two more seasons and is coming off of an All-Star campaign. If this trade doesn’t happen, there will undoubtedly be other opportunities.

7) Why are the Spurs even talking about trading Murray? It’s mostly a matter of the front office doing their due diligence. Murray is an outstanding player but he’s not an untouchable cornerstone. If San Antonio is blown away by a trade offer, they have to at least consider pulling the trigger on such a franchise-altering deal. There’s talk that the Spurs are hesitant to give Murray a $200-plus million contract in two years. While that may be part of the calculations the front office is doing when evaluating these potential trades, it’s not the main motivation.

8) I’ve been told that Murray hasn’t asked for a trade. He is said to be open to joining the Hawks (he’s been in contact with Trae Young in recent days) but he’s not applying any pressure to complete the deal.

 

[trojanfan12]

He doesn't have to be a catch and shoot guy he just has to play within his limits. He won't do that for whatever ungodly reason.

In addition to that how did he go from a positive defender in BPM to a net negative on both offense and defense?

I get skill deterioration but minus an injury it seems shocking he dropped off that bad that quickly.

I think the way the season went down, he just...I don't want to say "gave up" because I don't think Westbrookhas that in him. But he did allow everything that was happening and all of the criticism he was taking to get to him. A lot of folks were a bit over the top with some of the shit they were saying.

I'm sure that by the end of the season he was just frustrated, disappointed and mad. These guys make millions and dealing with a lot of that comes with the territory. So, I don't feel sorry for him necessarily (especially since his refusal to adjust his game is a big part of the problem)...but he is human, so I'm sure it effected him. I doubt he's ever been hated on by his teams own fans and media like he was last year. I know it didn't happen to him in OKC.

 

[Mecca of the “B” Team]

Lakers fans talk on THT like he's an asset and he's substantially worse than RW even at RW's worst.

THT is RW on crack cocaine.

He looks good on paper.

Size, age, wingspan.

But, he looks like fools gold, so far, on the court.

 

[ChrisperJ10]

he just...I don't want to say "gave up" because I don't think Westbrookhas that in him

I believe he gave up. His blooper reel is HORRIBLE.

God like trolling on his part after the fans turned on him.

*edit* Maybe Darvin Ham lights a fire under his ass.

 

[ChrisperJ10]

Latest Spurs Intel on Dejounte Murray Trade Rumors

1) When Bleacher Report’s Jake Fischer initially revealed that the Spurs and Hawks were talking about this blockbuster trade, it was insinuated that John Collins would headline San Antonio’s return. However, at the time, I reported that Collins wasn’t headed to the Spurs in the proposed deal.
According to a reliable source, Collins is still not expected to be sent to San Antonio. In fact, in the latest trade talks that took place on Monday, Collins wasn’t in the deal at all.

2) There’s talk that the Spurs are looking to trade Murray for three first round draft picks. I’m told that is incorrect. San Antonio’s asking price for Murray is four first round draft picks with little to no protections. Alternatively, the Spurs want three minimally protected first rounders and two unprotected first round pick swaps.

3) Interestingly, an insider close to the situation says that the Spurs have multiple teams making a strong push for Murray besides the Hawks. One Eastern Conference team, he says, is offering three first round draft picks and a desirable young player in a proposed swap. He also stated that the Minnesota Timberwolves have expressed serious interest in Murray.

4) Multiple sources have told me the only player on the Hawks the Spurs would value as a possible replacement for a first round pick is Onyeka Okongwu. The 21-year-old big man averaged 8.2 points, 5.9 rebounds and 1.3 blocks in 20.7 minutes per game last season.
On the other hand, the Spurs reportedly view Collins’ $125 million contract as a liability. To match salaries, San Antonio would rather take on Danilo Gallinari and his partially guaranteed contract.

5) One scout believes that the Spurs may be interested in AJ Griffin and Tyrese Martin, the two players the Hawks selected in the draft. Griffin was picked 16th in the first round and Martin was picked 51st overall.

6) When might a deal be completed? Gallinari’s contract becomes completely guaranteed on June 29th if he’s not released, so that may motivate the Hawks to put their best offer on the table in the next 24 hours. From San Antonio’s perspective, there doesn’t appear to be much of a rush. Murray is under contract for two more seasons and is coming off of an All-Star campaign. If this trade doesn’t happen, there will undoubtedly be other opportunities.

7) Why are the Spurs even talking about trading Murray? It’s mostly a matter of the front office doing their due diligence. Murray is an outstanding player but he’s not an untouchable cornerstone. If San Antonio is blown away by a trade offer, they have to at least consider pulling the trigger on such a franchise-altering deal. There’s talk that the Spurs are hesitant to give Murray a $200-plus million contract in two years. While that may be part of the calculations the front office is doing when evaluating these potential trades, it’s not the main motivation.

8) I’ve been told that Murray hasn’t asked for a trade. He is said to be open to joining the Hawks (he’s been in contact with Trae Young in recent days) but he’s not applying any pressure to complete the deal.

Poetl is next. Full blown rebuild.

Sounds very similar to what OKC is doing with all the rumors they might be shopping SGA.