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Michael Porter Jr to undergo back surgery.

Out indefinitely.

 

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tlance said:
It is stuff like this why people don’t take you seriously.

If he had been traded to the Grizzlies instead of the Cavs, you would not be posting this.

In 3 years Harden will still probably be the best player in the deal and LeVert and Dipo will still be better than Allen.


@tlance

2 more years from now I wonder what Allen looks like and I wonder what Harden, LeVert and Oladipo look like. Care to revise this poorly aged opinion? no longer even an argument for levert or dipo after LESS THAN 1 year- let alone 3 (when Harden will be 34 with a million miles and Allen will be 26 right in his prime).

Everybody gets stuff wrong from time to time. Oladipo’s body has failed him.

Do you want to go back and do a play by play fo all your moronic posts over the years?

Jarret Allen is a good player getting paid like a good player. But he isn’t better than James Harden, LOL.

I also said at the time Houston made 2 terrible trades in dumping Allen and LeVert for nothing, but that is probably why you don’t bother to actually post my real quotes.

Stop being stupid.

Really funny that you have to reach so hard to find stuff to criticize me on.
 

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Everybody gets stuff wrong from time to time. Oladipo’s body has failed him.

Do you want to go back and do a play by play fo all your moronic posts over the years?

Jarret Allen is a good player getting paid like a good player. But he isn’t better than James Harden, LOL.

I also said at the time Houston made 2 terrible trades in dumping Allen and LeVert for nothing, but that is probably why you don’t bother to actually post my real quotes.

Stop being stupid.

Really funny that you have to reach so hard to find stuff to criticize me on.

The only plausible explanation for what Houston did was they wanted to go tankapalooza for the next 2-3 years. Which doesn't seem like a great plan given the current lottery rules.
 

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totally agreeo n the rubio stuff. he was really hot there for a while and he needed to shoot for a while when all those guys were down......but now that we are almost back to a full rotation (less Sexton) he doesnt need 12 shots a game or whatever.

Okoro kept improving as last year went on. I think starting this year with an injury set him back. I think he will get there- but its gonna take time.

too bad sexton got hurt.......if the Pelicans want to rebuild an Ingram trade of say Okoro, Sexton, picks would have been kind of interesting for both teams if you ask me.
I would definitely make sure I had Griff on speed dial....he can't be hard to fleece.
 

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totally agreeo n the rubio stuff. he was really hot there for a while and he needed to shoot for a while when all those guys were down......but now that we are almost back to a full rotation (less Sexton) he doesnt need 12 shots a game or whatever.

Okoro kept improving as last year went on. I think starting this year with an injury set him back. I think he will get there- but its gonna take time.

too bad sexton got hurt.......if the Pelicans want to rebuild an Ingram trade of say Okoro, Sexton, picks would have been kind of interesting for both teams if you ask me.
It's interesting you bring up the Ingram trade bc it's a trade that wouldn't be crazy for both teams and kinda makes sense for both teams. Ingram, we know now, isn't going to be a #1 guy on a bad team but he can be 1b or 1c option on a playoff team imo. Still only 24 and an above average shooter but I think on a team like the Cavs it would be a good fit. I think he is a capable defender in the right situation and his efficiency numbers could climb. He seems like a willing passer but I feel he is in a Wiggins situation in New Orleans. The team is going nowhere and they probably would be better off getting assets/draft picks for him and moving on. It will be interesting what the Cavs do with Sexton now that he had the injury. I still think Okoro is going to take some time to develop but he plays great defense and you see flashes of what he can be offensively, attacking the rim and the jumpshot. He just needs confidence and time. Sexton and draft picks....I would think about that Ingram trade but it likely takes more than that.
 

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tlance said:
It is stuff like this why people don’t take you seriously.

If he had been traded to the Grizzlies instead of the Cavs, you would not be posting this.

In 3 years Harden will still probably be the best player in the deal and LeVert and Dipo will still be better than Allen.


@tlance

2 more years from now I wonder what Allen looks like and I wonder what Harden, LeVert and Oladipo look like. Care to revise this poorly aged opinion? no longer even an argument for levert or dipo after LESS THAN 1 year- let alone 3 (when Harden will be 34 with a million miles and Allen will be 26 right in his prime).
so funny how many said Cavs overpaid Allen. If anything, both he and now Osman look to be very underpaid. admittedly, never thought that would happen with Osman.

No, this does not mean he's a great player. But there are guys making 2-3X what he is paid who are not good.
 

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It's interesting you bring up the Ingram trade bc it's a trade that wouldn't be crazy for both teams and kinda makes sense for both teams. Ingram, we know now, isn't going to be a #1 guy on a bad team but he can be 1b or 1c option on a playoff team imo. Still only 24 and an above average shooter but I think on a team like the Cavs it would be a good fit. I think he is a capable defender in the right situation and his efficiency numbers could climb. He seems like a willing passer but I feel he is in a Wiggins situation in New Orleans. The team is going nowhere and they probably would be better off getting assets/draft picks for him and moving on. It will be interesting what the Cavs do with Sexton now that he had the injury. I still think Okoro is going to take some time to develop but he plays great defense and you see flashes of what he can be offensively, attacking the rim and the jumpshot. He just needs confidence and time. Sexton and draft picks....I would think about that Ingram trade but it likely takes more than that.
Think they might ask for Okoro, as well. would only do it, of course, if they were willing to pay sexton big money.
 

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You guys going to fuck us up on Wednesday if both Butler and Herro are out again
I'll believe we can win in Miami when I see it. Haven't won there, I don't think, since Lebron 1.0

Be nice to finally get a break, though, on the injury front.
 

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Allen might be an All Star.

Hard to get in as a center--- but not impossible.

I would like to say Garland has a chance - but too many good guards/wings out there. Tatum, Harden, Durant, Butler, LaVine, Brogdon, Giannis, Young, Beal would all go before I would think (and deservedly so).

LaMelo Ball is at 19.4, 8, and 8 thus far this year too. Geez. I hated it at the time- but - yikes- the drafting of Wiseman over him continue to look worse and worse. He is freaking Luka-lite.
Being in Cleveland might help us get a rep otherwise not sure we would for reasons you gave. If they still have it, would think Mobley in Rising stars game.

agree....old rules with a center selection(s) Allen has a shot. Not when lumped in with all the forwards.
 

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@Shanemansj13 @dtgold88

You watch the Cavs game last night? Had to laugh at Luka. How many times did he get away with hooking a defender? Then when he finally got called for it he complained to the refs. Funny stuff.
 

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@Shanemansj13 @dtgold88

You watch the Cavs game last night? Had to laugh at Luka. How many times did he get away with hooking a defender? Then when he finally got called for it he complained to the refs. Funny stuff.
did you have the Cavs' feed? Daugherty seemed to point it out every time he drove to the hoop. I really hope he's being groomed for a permanent position.
 

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did you have the Cavs' feed? Daugherty seemed to point it out every time he drove to the hoop. I really hope he's being groomed for a permanent position.

Yep. When watching Cavs games I always go with their station on league pass. Do the same thing for Celtics games as well.
 

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@Shanemansj13 @dtgold88

You watch the Cavs game last night? Had to laugh at Luka. How many times did he get away with hooking a defender? Then when he finally got called for it he complained to the refs. Funny stuff.
I was at the game. I guess being there is different than watching it bc I only saw him complain multiple times but I could tell he was frustrated. They did call it one time and the boo's erupted lol. Mavs fans were frustrated.
 

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I was at the game. I guess being there is different than watching it bc I only saw him complain multiple times but I could tell he was frustrated. They did call it one time and the boo's erupted lol. Mavs fans were frustrated.

Damn forgot you went to the game last night. Did you get a good seat with the cheaper ticket prices?
 

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Everybody gets stuff wrong from time to time. Oladipo’s body has failed him.

Do you want to go back and do a play by play fo all your moronic posts over the years?

Jarret Allen is a good player getting paid like a good player. But he isn’t better than James Harden, LOL.

I also said at the time Houston made 2 terrible trades in dumping Allen and LeVert for nothing, but that is probably why you don’t bother to actually post my real quotes.

Stop being stupid.

Really funny that you have to reach so hard to find stuff to criticize me on.
my point was- i said 3 years from the trade Allen would be the best player in it.

you ridiculued me- said this is why people cant take me seriously- and then said in addition to Harden still being better than Allen- that both LeVert and Oladipo would still be better.

LESS than a year a later, Allen, 24, is playing like a fringe All Star- Oladipo is kaput, and Allen is easily outplaying LeVert.

Allen isnt better than Harden yet---- absolutely not close yet.

but 2+ years from now when Allen is right in his prime and Harden is 34 we shall see.

Can you at least admit your derogatory comment about me "not being taken seriously" for that post was, in retrospect, stupid?

16, 12 and 2 with very good defense and the 2nd best shooting % in the league is pretty good.
 

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Embiid's a tough match up for most teams because of his skills. When healthy he's dominant. Gotta figure out how to get the cry baby bitch outta town. Because Embiid's gonna need more help than what he has right now for a long run in the playoffs.

He needs a strong backup too, with the amount of time he misses each season.
 

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I'm extremely excited for tonight's game. I think the Suns will come out with their A game and the Warriors will need to absolutely bring it tonight to get a W. Haven't been this excited for a regular season game in some time. Should be a fun one.
 

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I'm extremely excited for tonight's game. I think the Suns will come out with their A game and the Warriors will need to absolutely bring it tonight to get a W. Haven't been this excited for a regular season game in some time. Should be a fun one.

Looking forward to this game tonight, should be a good one.
 

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Osman has definitely been a very pleasant surprise. at this point the guy is well underpaid. No, he's not a great player by any means, but a solid rotational piece who has become an exceptional shooter.....and not a catch and shoot guy only. He can get his own shot.

agree on Okoro. Hoped he'd take off this year with his shooting...not become a good shooter but at least show some improvement from the outside. Hasn't been there yet but still incredibly young...needs to be more aggressive going to hoop.

Love Rubio but would like to see him get back to being a pass first PG. Lately he's been playing like the guy sexton's critics accuse him of playing....only sexton is usually an efficient shooter and Rubio is not.

That Olympic run for Rubio has left an imprint apparently.
 
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