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A rule change idea

msgkings322

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So much talk is about how the 3 pointer is ruining the game, making it boring. But you can't really move the line back any more because that makes it even more impossible for the defense to cover out to the 3 line and also cover inside.

How about just eliminating the corner 3? Instead of the 3 line bending and going straight down to the end line, just let the arc continue until it hits the sidelines. It will take away at least those super easy 3s...
 

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Sure but a lot of folks do as you know

Yeah, but those people suck.

But to answer those sucky people's complaints, just allow more contact on defense. In order to shoot 3s, you need to create space. You still largely create space by driving, cutting, etc to get the ball into the lane and swing it back out. If you allow more contact on those drives and cuts, you'll muck up a lot of that motion and slow down some of the action which should cut down on some of the 3s.
 

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Yeah, but those people suck.

But to answer those sucky people's complaints, just allow more contact on defense. In order to shoot 3s, you need to create space. You still largely create space by driving, cutting, etc to get the ball into the lane and swing it back out. If you allow more contact on those drives and cuts, you'll muck up a lot of that motion and slow down some of the action which should cut down on some of the 3s.
There's a large group of folks who miss the midrange game, the Jordan fadeaway, the Kareem sky hook, etc. It's all 3s and dunks/layups.
 

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Widen the court to make the entirety of the arc from the basket the same length. I've been a proponent of this for 7 years. Modern players cover more ground anyway.

As for the midrange game's disappearance, experiment with decimal scoring in the G-League. Add a 2.5 line or see what happens if each three ball is worth .25-.5 less.
 

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There's a large group of folks who miss the midrange game, the Jordan fadeaway, the Kareem sky hook, etc. It's all 3s and dunks/layups.

The midrange game isn’t coming back no matter what rules you change.

I don’t think any major changes are needed, aside from not allowing offensive players to seek contact to draw a foul.

Even if the defender isn’t in legal guarding position, if the offensive guy jumps into him it should be no call.
 

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The midrange game isn’t coming back no matter what rules you change.

I don’t think any major changes are needed, aside from not allowing offensive players to seek contact to draw a foul.

Even if the defender isn’t in legal guarding position, if the offensive guy jumps into him it should be no call.
It should, rightfully, be called an offensive foul.
 

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The midrange game isn’t coming back no matter what rules you change.

I don’t think any major changes are needed, aside from not allowing offensive players to seek contact to draw a foul.

Even if the defender isn’t in legal guarding position, if the offensive guy jumps into him it should be no call.

^^^This^^^

I have a much bigger problem with guys like James Harden, for example, who are putting up shots that seem more intended to draw a foul than to score a basket and the refs letting them get away with it.

We talk a lot about the difference in how the games are refereed in the regular season vs. the playoffs. Imo, that's part of the problem. Call the game the same way in both the regular season and the playoffs. The rules don't change, neither should how they are enforced.

Where the "anti-3" people have a point though is when a team is missing a lot of 3's and they just keep shooting them. That can be pretty brutal to watch. But there really isn't a rule change for that.
 

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The midrange game isn’t coming back no matter what rules you change.

I don’t think any major changes are needed, aside from not allowing offensive players to seek contact to draw a foul.

Even if the defender isn’t in legal guarding position, if the offensive guy jumps into him it should be no call.
but damn, what'll James Harden do then, coach...? :heh:
 

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It should, rightfully, be called an offensive foul.

If he is in the air or otherwise out of position, I don’t think it should be offensive. That bails him out for bad defense.

But it should not be defensive either.
 

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If he is in the air or otherwise out of position, I don’t think it should be offensive. That bails him out for bad defense.

But it should not be defensive either.
I don't agree. If you intentionally jump into a guy, no matter where he is, it should be an offensive foul. If you play bad defense standing and set up not in the guy's path to the hoop but he dribbles the bowls you over it is still a charge even though you played bad defense.
 

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There's a large group of folks who miss the midrange game, the Jordan fadeaway, the Kareem sky hook, etc. It's all 3s and dunks/layups.
True, but if they knew then what people know now the game then would have been played this way IMO.
 

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True, but if they knew then what people know now the game then would have been played this way IMO.
Sure, but one can still have a preference for the greater variety of offense before. Eliminating corner 3s might help a bit
 

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I don't agree. If you intentionally jump into a guy, no matter where he is, it should be an offensive foul. If you play bad defense standing and set up not in the guy's path to the hoop but he dribbles the bowls you over it is still a charge even though you played bad defense.

The offensive player already loses because they are almost surely going to miss the shot. That is consequence enough.
 

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I am not talking about in the paint. I think it is fine when a defender is lifted to get contact and score. Just no foul.

I am talking about the ridiculous heaves from 3. That has to go.
 

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Sure, but one can still have a preference for the greater variety of offense before. Eliminating corner 3s might help a bit
Absolutely. anyone can have an opinion/preference about anything. I like it how it is, but can understand if someone doesn't.
 
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