Blow It Up!!!

[tzill]

You just bummed me out. I blame David Stern.

Dude, I'm pretty sure it's Eli's fault...

 

[tzill]

I agree. Blow It Up.

Now.

Curry to someone who will take Avi; Monta to someone who will take Beans. $15MM on the books for 12/13. Top five pick, and maybe another first rounder that we can give to the Jazz or use to draft another piece. Move forward with Wright, Udoh, Thompson, Rush, Jenkins, Tyler, 3 draft picks. Plenty of money for 2 top FAs.

Draft a C, G, PF

FA's available: PG -- Deron Williams, Raymond Felton, Andre Miller, Jason Terry
SG -- Landry Fields, Mickael Pietrus,
SF -- Gerald Wallace
PF -- Antawn Jamison, Rony Turiaf, Boris Diaw
C -- Dwight Howard, Chris Kaman, Jermaine O'Neal, Nazr Mohammed, Mehmet Okur

If we had that type of cap space, it might be possible to attract Howard and Williams. If not, three reasonably priced vets to hold fort until the youngsters are ready.

 

[CitySushi]

If we're blowing it up, we might as well get rid of everyone.

(Ridiculous)3 Way Trade between the Warriors, New Jersey and Cleveland:

GS Trades: Monta Ellis, Dorell Wright, Andris Biedrins, Steph Curry & David Lee
GS Receives: Deron Williams, Antawn Jamison(15M) & Memhet Okur(10M)

New Jersey Trades: Deron Williams and Anthony Morrow:
NJ Receives: Steph Curry, David Lee, Dorell Wright & Andris Biedrins

Cleveland Trades: Antawn Jamison
CLE receives: Monta Ellis & Anthony Morrow

Deron is not going to resign with NJ and get a haul back of Curry, Lee and Wright. They also have to trade Okur and take back Biedrins contract. Lee will pair nicely with Lopez and Curry is the best PG they're gonna get in return for Deron.

Cleveland trades Jamison's expiring contract and receives an elite scorer to pair with Irving. Irving has good size to help match up with Ellis to solidify that backcourt. Also receive Morrow as a throw in.

GS: Receives Deron and 25M in expiring contracts. Add that to Kwame's 7M expiring and you have a bunch of money to spend in the off season. Use that to go after Howard to pair with Williams. Sign him to a 4 year 80M deal. Use the 12M left to go after Gerald Wallace and start Klay and Udoh at the two other spots. With our depleted roster this year, we keep our top 7 pick and draft a young player to grow with this team.

Yeah, it was a slow day at work today.

 

[CameronFrye]

If we're blowing it up, we might as well get rid of everyone.

(Ridiculous)3 Way Trade between the Warriors, New Jersey and Cleveland:

GS Trades: Monta Ellis, Dorell Wright, Andris Biedrins, Steph Curry & David Lee
GS Receives: Deron Williams, Antawn Jamison(15M) & Memhet Okur(10M)

New Jersey Trades: Deron Williams and Anthony Morrow:
NJ Receives: Steph Curry, David Lee, Dorell Wright & Andris Biedrins

Cleveland Trades: Antawn Jamison
CLE receives: Monta Ellis & Anthony Morrow

Deron is not going to resign with NJ and get a haul back of Curry, Lee and Wright. They also have to trade Okur and take back Biedrins contract. Lee will pair nicely with Lopez and Curry is the best PG they're gonna get in return for Deron.

Cleveland trades Jamison's expiring contract and receives an elite scorer to pair with Irving. Irving has good size to help match up with Ellis to solidify that backcourt. Also receive Morrow as a throw in.

GS: Receives Deron and 25M in expiring contracts. Add that to Kwame's 7M expiring and you have a bunch of money to spend in the off season. Use that to go after Howard to pair with Williams. Sign him to a 4 year 80M deal. Use the 12M left to go after Gerald Wallace and start Klay and Udoh at the two other spots. With our depleted roster this year, we keep our top 7 pick and draft a young player to grow with this team.

Yeah, it was a slow day at work today.

That trade will never happen, but it is so very awesome. That trade would be EXACTLY what the Warriors need.

 

[CameronFrye]

Dude, I'm pretty sure it's Eli's fault...

That deserves some serious rep because of its truthiness.

 

[CameronFrye]

Not one mention of _avi_ Lee and his albatross of a contract from Timmy Kawakami. For shame, Tim.

Tim Kawakami: Golden State Warriors co-owner Joe Lacob badly overestimated team's talent - San Jose Mercury News

 

[tzill]

That trade will never happen, but it is so very awesome. That trade would be EXACTLY what the Warriors need.

Ditto this. Blow the entire fucking thing up. I don't know if anyone else read Krapakami's inteview with Lacob recently, but he seemed to imply he wouldn't be opposed to blowing it up if the W's continue to lose.

Of course, we all KNEW they would then go right out and beat the Blazers.

They can't even fucking lose well.

 

[tzill]

Not one mention of _avi_ Lee and his albatross of a contract from Timmy Kawakami. For shame, Tim.

Tim Kawakami: Golden State Warriors co-owner Joe Lacob badly overestimated team's talent - San Jose Mercury News

Yep. this article is essentially what he wrote in his blog. Lacob is going to trade Monta this year; I can feel it. Problem is: he REALLY needs to trade Avi.

 

[Heathbar012]

That deserves some serious rep because of its truthiness.

I tried. Socialism.

 

[Heathbar012]

Ditto this. Blow the entire fucking thing up. I don't know if anyone else read Krapakami's inteview with Lacob recently, but he seemed to imply he wouldn't be opposed to blowing it up if the W's continue to lose.

Of course, we all KNEW they would then go right out and beat the Blazers.

They can't even fucking lose well.

Three games in a row with (minimal) travel for the opposing team better be an automatic win... but yes, boo that win. That Lakers-Clippers game was awesome last night until the last minute. I can't watch Warriors games if I want them to lose. I can feel a pit in my stomach grow.

 

[ColinCoby]

I tried. Socialism.

Took care of it for ya.

I liked this line from the Krapi column:

First comes denial, then anger, then acceptance. They should put that on t-shirts and sell them at Oracle. I'd buy one.

What's funny is that most Warrior fans have learned to skip right past denial and anger and go straight to acceptance. Lacob will learn to do the same...eventually.

 

[CameronFrye]

Took care of it for ya.

I liked this line from the Krapi column:

First comes denial, then anger, then acceptance. They should put that on t-shirts and sell them at Oracle. I'd buy one.

What's funny is that most Warrior fans have learned to skip right past denial and anger and go straight to acceptance. Lacob will learn to do the same...eventually.

LMAO. You got rep for that one.

On a serious note, that post almost perfectly encapsulates everything that is wrong with the Warriors - and us as fans. Warrior fans are some of the most passionate in all of sports. And we stay that way when the team stinks and when it has a legit shot at the playoffs. While that loyalty is something that should be admired, it also tells the ownership that they don't have to worry about fielding a good team because we will still show up.

What the Warriors have now is an owner who is already finding reasons not to trade _avi_ Lee. From this Crapakami blog in March, we see what is wrong right away:

Lacob talks: Praising David Lee, no big deadline moves, Curry and Ellis and more | Talking Points

Lacob is a big, big, big, big, BIG fan of David Lee.

You cannot exaggerate how much he likes Lee and how irritated he gets when anybody (me!) says that acquiring Lee was a bad deal.

When you have an owner who refuses to look at reality, you as a fan have almost no hope of success.

Here is a copy and past of the actual question and answer:

-Q: Do you regret the David Lee trade and contract?

-LACOB: No, not at all. I just don’t. You and I obviously differ very much on this.

We sit here with a man that has helped change the locker room, he’s generating good numbers, he’s been a great teammate, we’ve already won one more game than they did all of last year, with 21 more games left to go. And he’s the main addition from last year.

Now, the contract? The price? I understand why some people would say that we paid up. I’m not going to sit here and say that’s not true. But that’s different than saying it’s not a good trade.

You point to it hampering all of our deals at the trade deadline, and I totally disagree with that. It had nothing to do with that.

Yup. Problem number one right there. And it starts at the top.

Meet the new owner. Same as the old owner.

 

[clyde_carbon]

So, what are the chances we keep our first round pick this year?

 

[CameronFrye]

So, what are the chances we keep our first round pick this year?

Well, it has to be in the Top 7 or it is lost. The way the Warriors are playing, they will be JUST good enough to lose that pick. Coincidentally, the Warriors currently have the eighth-worst record in the NBA. Assuming that even one of the lottery teams gets a lucky bounce of the balls, the Warriors would fall to the ninth overall pick, which would then go to Utah (via New Jersey).

And we all know that if this team stays mostly intact, they will miss the playoffs yet again. But the Ws will go on one of their patented late-season runs where they win a whole bunch of meaningless games to end the season. That streak will serve to get management fired up about the team's "potential", it will push them further up the standings, it will get this message board illogically excited about the 2012-2013 season, and it will cost the team its first round draft pick, which will harm the Warriors in the short term and in the long run.

It is the Warrior way.

 

[Heathbar012]

Well, it has to be in the Top 7 or it is lost. The way the Warriors are playing, they will be JUST good enough to lose that pick. Coincidentally, the Warriors currently have the eighth-worst record in the NBA. Assuming that even one of the lottery teams gets a lucky bounce of the balls, the Warriors would fall to the ninth overall pick, which would then go to Utah (via New Jersey).

And we all know that if this team stays mostly intact, they will miss the playoffs yet again. But the Ws will go on one of their patented late-season runs where they win a whole bunch of meaningless games to end the season. That streak will serve to get management fired up about the team's "potential", it will push them further up the standings, it will get this message board illogically excited about the 2012-2013 season, and it will cost the team its first round draft pick, which will harm the Warriors in the short term and in the long run.

It is the Warrior way.

I want to hate you.

 

[EKmane]

Well, it has to be in the Top 7 or it is lost. The way the Warriors are playing, they will be JUST good enough to lose that pick. Coincidentally, the Warriors currently have the eighth-worst record in the NBA. Assuming that even one of the lottery teams gets a lucky bounce of the balls, the Warriors would fall to the ninth overall pick, which would then go to Utah (via New Jersey).

And we all know that if this team stays mostly intact, they will miss the playoffs yet again. But the Ws will go on one of their patented late-season runs where they win a whole bunch of meaningless games to end the season. That streak will serve to get management fired up about the team's "potential", it will push them further up the standings, it will get this message board illogically excited about the 2012-2013 season, and it will cost the team its first round draft pick, which will harm the Warriors in the short term and in the long run.

It is the Warrior way.

I'm clicking away now (as a wave of depression comes over me).

 

[CameronFrye]

I want to hate you.

But you can't because you know it's true.

I hope that the owners come to their senses before the trade deadline. _avi_ Lee might be a great clubhouse presence and might just be one of the hardest workers and nicest guys on the floor, but all of those things do not make up for the fact that he's just not very talented and will never be good enough to lead this franchise to the promised land.

 

[ColinCoby]

Cam/tzill/whoever: I heard recently that the Ws will have some cap room soon. Any idea when?

 

[CitySushi]

Cam/tzill/whoever: I heard recently that the Ws will have some cap room soon. Any idea when?

They have the following expiring contracts:

Kwame Brown - 6.75M
Brandon Rush - 3M
Earl Barron - 1M
Nate Robinson, Dominic McGuire, Chris Wright - 2M

I believe David Lee's contract escalates which will cut some of that room. They will have some money to spend, but it depends on whether or not they resign/match Rush(restricted), so I don't believe they'll have any real cap space to make a run at any of the bigger names out there.

 

[CameronFrye]

Cam/tzill/whoever: I heard recently that the Ws will have some cap room soon. Any idea when?

They are getting some relief for Kwame. From what I understand it's going to be about $2 mil.