BCS rule changes...JMO

[EvilVodka]

While they are making all of these changes to the BCS in the next year or two (ie. shrinking BCS to just title game, eliminating AQ bids), they need to look at seriously refining the National Championship process...JMO, but we need a 4-team playoff with only conference champs eligible. By only allowing conference champs, you turn the conference races into mini-playoffs. By extending the National Championship to a 4-team playoff, you make so many more games mean something.

This year, the SEC Championship game would really mean something, with LSU/Georgia as a de facto playoff game...

Virginia Tech/Clemson would actually mean something...

Oklahoma State/Oklahoma could mean a playoff berth for either school

The freaking C-USA championship would mean something!

 

[MarkOU]

A 4 team playoff with only conference champs allowed?

So what about the other 2 BCS conference champs? You mention C-USA but they are not part of the BCS so why would they be part of the playoff?

I'm confused.

 

[JTEGGER]

So you would be okay with a 4 team playoff this year that was:

Oklahoma vs Houston?

Georgia vs Clemson?

Yeah....that would settle things :hdn:

 

[757Hokie83]

i say either a 4 or 8 team playoff using the top 4 (or 8) ranked teams after conference championship week

 

[JTEGGER]

Or better yet:

Southern Miss vs Oklahoma?

 

[Ballboy534]

My rule change involves abolishing the following teams from post-New Years Bowls: tSEC East, any Big Ten team that loses to Michigian, Ohio State, or Nebraska, the entire Pac-12, and any team with a coach that has already won a national championship. Equality for all!

 

[JTEGGER]

My rule change involves abolishing the following teams from post-New Years Bowls: tSEC East, any Big Ten team that loses to Michigian, Ohio State, or Nebraska, the entire Pac-12, and any team with a coach that has already won a national championship. Equality for all!

Your coach won a national championship as a walk-on at BAMA. He should be eliminated too.

 

[daglafe]

Agreed. 4 does not work because it allows for too much voter speculation still. If they are all conference champs....then which ones? How many teams? Does that mean new divisions for teams not in those 4? Total conference realignment?

If we want it actually played out on the field, it needs to be bigger. 8 or 16 teams.

I personally like the 16 team version with the first round giving home field advantage to higher ranked teams and the second and later rounds being rotated into the bowls.

 

[BadMotoWeazal]

All this sounds great...who's gonna implement it???

 

[daglafe]

All this sounds great...who's gonna implement it???

The power has to be taken away from the BCS. They will never willingly give it up. If the NCAA is the governing body of college football...they must govern it.

 

[EvilVodka]

So you would be okay with a 4 team playoff this year that was:

Oklahoma vs Houston?

Georgia vs Clemson?

no way Clemson would make it...The BCS rankings would still decide the order of eligible schools

If LSU lost, then Oregon would come into play...If LSU and Virginia Tech lost, then the Big 10 Championship would come into play, with the winner slipping in

Most likely, it would be:

Sugar: LSU vs. Houston
Fiesta: Oklahoma State vs. Virginia Tech

BCS Championship: Sugar Bowl winner vs. Fiesta Bowl winner

Southern Miss would have no shot...Oregon, with a PAC 12 Championship win, would be the first team to move in if anyone lost

 

[nolehusker]

So basically what I think you are saying is take the 4 highest ranked conference champions and make them have a playoff?

What about conferences that don't have championship games? Don't they kind of get the edge of conferences that do then?

 

[JTEGGER]

no way Clemson would make it...The BCS rankings would still decide the order of eligible schools

If LSU lost, then Oregon would come into play...If LSU and Virginia Tech lost, then the Big 10 Championship would come into play, with the winner slipping in

Most likely, it would be:

Sugar: LSU vs. Houston
Fiesta: Oklahoma State vs. Virginia Tech

BCS Championship: Sugar Bowl winner vs. Fiesta Bowl winner

Southern Miss would have no shot...Oregon, with a PAC 12 Championship win, would be the first team to move in if anyone lost

So the BCS would be good enough for you to decide who the best 4 conf champs are but not who the best 2 teams are?

 

[EvilVodka]

So basically what I think you are saying is take the 4 highest ranked conference champions and make them have a playoff?

yep

What about conferences that don't have championship games? Don't they kind of get the edge of conferences that do then?

That's a good question...do they? Georgia has a chance to win the SEC without playing Alabama! What's tougher, a round robin, or a Championship game? I think its debatable...

 

[EvilVodka]

So the BCS would be good enough for you to decide who the best 4 conf champs are but not who the best 2 teams are?

well, the games would be played on the field, instead of determined by opinions of who the best 2 teams are, if that's what you're asking lol

The assumption would be that if you can't win your conference, you're not the best team in the country.

 

[rmilia1]

This whole thing is super easy if they want to do it. Leave the BCS as it is. Take the 6 AQ conference champs and then take the next 10 highest ranked teams. The first round of the playoffs is the same 8 bowls every year. You give the 6 conference champs the top 6 seeds based on where they finish in the BCS rankings and seed the next 10 based on their rankings. You leave the BCS bowls as the quarter finals and semis and rotate them every year ( you would have to add 2 bowls to BCS bowl status but thats easy. Add the Cotton because of history and the Cap One because of recent prominence). This leaves us with something like this ( using current standings)

Outback Bowl- #1 LSU vs # 16 Wisconsin
Gator Bowl- #8 Stanford vs #9 Houston
Alamo Bowl- #4 Oregon vs #13 Kansas State
Liberty Bowl- #5 Michigan State vs #12 Oklahoma
Sun Bowl- #3 VT vs #14 South Carolina
Insight Bowl- #6 WVU vs #11 Arkansas
Pinstripe Bowl- # 7 Bama vs #10 Boise
Peach Bowl- #2 OK State vs #15 Georgia

Winners would play the next week and so on. Start the playoff the 3rd week of December ( giving everyone at least a week off) and itd be done by the second week of January ( which is when the season ends already). You could still keep all the other bowls, the current bowls would be fine with it, the BCS people would be fine since their system is still being used, the money would be HUGE and we'd all get what we want.. a true national champion.

 

[BigAppleBadger]

A 4 team playoff with only conference champs allowed?

So what about the other 2 BCS conference champs? You mention C-USA but they are not part of the BCS so why would they be part of the playoff?

I'm confused.

Well, the Big East can go fuck themselves for one.


I think it should be a 6-team playoff. Conferences champs from the SEC, Big Ten, B12, Pac-12 and ACC, plus one non-AQ at-large. Undefeated teams among the six get a first round bye.

If there are less than 2 undefeateds, the other bye(s) go to the highest ranked team(s); if there are more than 2 undefeateds, the highest ranked undefeated teams get the bye.

 

[JTEGGER]

well, the games would be played on the field, instead of determined by opinions of who the best 2 teams are, if that's what you're asking lol

The assumption would be that if you can't win your conference, you're not the best team in the country.[/QUOTE

But you could not win your conference and be the 2nd best team in the country, right?

 

[rmilia1]

The only adendum Id add to my playoff system is that the playoff teams would be decided by the final BCS poll prior to the conference title games. That way you dont penalize a team for making it to the conference title game and losing, while rewarding teams that dont make it to their conference title game. Other than that my system is easy, it gives everyone a shot and the system we currently have wouldnt have to be scrapped to do it.

 

[rmilia1]

well, the games would be played on the field, instead of determined by opinions of who the best 2 teams are, if that's what you're asking lol

The assumption would be that if you can't win your conference, you're not the best team in the country.[/QUOTE

But you could not win your conference and be the 2nd best team in the country, right?

I dont think you need to win your conference to be the best team in the country. The reality is that some conferences are just much better than other conferences. The SEC has been the best conference for awhile so to shut Bama out while allowing a Louisville, WVU etc is stupid. There needs to be AT LEAST 8 teams ( probably 16 though) if you want a true gauge of who the best team in the country is. People say that every week in CFB is like a playoff right now but thats not true or else we'd be hyping up a LSU vs Houston National title game. The reality is that you cant have it both ways. You cant say that the national champion is the team that had the best season and then not reward an unbeaten team. I personally think a 16 team playoff would give us at least the best gauge of what team is the best at the end of the year. If you think that lessens the value of the regular season then you need to start rewarding 12-0 teams ahead of 11-1 teams right now.