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Game Thread: #7 Notre Dame @ #3 Georgia, 8 pm EST, CBS

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Well, I guess it's from the many thousands of callers and the local radio show hosts that put it at the forefront of game discussion … dayum near every week.

Hell, Kelly's pressers are riddled with "well we really need to clean up the silly mistakes". It's become somewhat of a running joke around here when they discuss the games each & every week.

But, I get it ... we're all wet & you're right. It's just me making this "assumption". :rolleyes2:

is notre among the most penalized teams in college football? or you just basing your opinion on what callers are saying? personally, i don't listen to sports shows because i think they just want rile people up to get attention.

i didn't say i knew why notre dame was penalized, you are the one saying it's definitely on kelly. kelly probably has 20 coaches working for him.

i'll say one thing for kelly and notre dame, they've exceeded expectations 2 seasons in row, and again tonight. kelly was also AP coach of the year 2018. as i recall there were quite a few on this board saying he should be fired in threads a couple seasons ago.
 

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is notre among the most penalized teams in college football? or you just basing your opinion on what callers are saying? personally, i don't listen to sports shows because i think they just want rile people up to get attention.

i didn't say i knew why notre dame was penalized, you are the one saying it's definitely on kelly. kelly probably has 20 coaches working for him.

i'll say one thing for kelly and notre dame, they've exceeded expectations 2 seasons in row, and again tonight. kelly was also AP coach of the year 2018. as i recall there were quite a few on this board saying he should be fired in threads a couple seasons ago.
It's the stupid false starts & LOS type penalties that plague this team and those can be pretty easily corrected if stressed.

This isn't hard.

I'd think you'd notice this glaring fact if you watch this team every week for years under Kelly.

Now, do you just wanna argue or try to acknowledge a simple fact that thousands of others seem to constantly notice & agree upon? JFC.
 

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It's the stupid false starts & LOS type penalties that plague this team and those can be pretty easily corrected if stressed.

This isn't hard.

I'd think you'd notice this glaring fact if you watch this team every week for years under Kelly.

Now, do you just wanna argue or try to acknowledge a simple fact that thousands of others seem to constantly notice & agree upon? JFC.

sorry, i'm not a herd kind of guy.

statistically, in 2018, they were ranked 36th out of 130 schools for fewest penalties.

College Football Stats - College FB Team Penalties per Game on TeamRankings.com
 

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sorry, i'm not a herd kind of guy.

statistically, in 2018, they were ranked 36th out of 130 schools for fewest penalties.

College Football Stats - College FB Team Penalties per Game on TeamRankings.com
sorry, i'm not a herd kind of guy.

statistically, in 2018, they were ranked 36th out of 130 schools for fewest penalties.

College Football Stats - College FB Team Penalties per Game on TeamRankings.com
Great. I'd bet half (if not more) of those penalties are procedural/LOS penalties.

Tell me ... do you watch ND each & every week? To know that it's not so much the 'quantity' of penalties as much as it is with the 'quality' (unquality, to be more frank). It's the silly, untimely BS that they pull during key situations that were not normally found under more disciplined ND teams.

Now, again … even Kelly eludes to these glaring 'errors' on his own team, quite often. You might know this if you'd pay more attention & clued in. You're evidently not.

You came over from KFFL didn't you?

Anyway, I'm done 'debating' this with a guy from Tucson that I don't see much on ND board or many threads. Just seems like you show up after games & like to troll fanbase without really showing a whole lot of regard, otherwise.
 

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Great. I'd bet half (if not more) of those penalties are procedural/LOS penalties.

Tell me ... do you watch ND each & every week? To know that it's not so much the 'quantity' of penalties as much as it is with the 'quality' (unquality, to be more frank). It's the silly, untimely BS that they pull during key situations that were not normally found under more disciplined ND teams.

Now, again … even Kelly eludes to these glaring 'errors' on his own team, quite often. You might know this if you'd pay more attention & clued in. You're evidently not.

You came over from KFFL didn't you?

Anyway, I'm done 'debating' this with a guy from Tucson that I don't see much on ND board or many threads. Just seems like you show up after games & like to troll fanbase without really showing a whole lot of regard, otherwise.

i see most of their games, and no i don't think, in general, in the kelly era, penalties have been a major problem, although tonight they were, for whatever reason. when your out manned and playing on the road in front of 95,000 mistakes can happen. them being notre dame and a religious school, referees don't do them any favors, either. and there were a couple crucial calls tonight that were questionable. that said, they don't play to perfection either. no team does, particularly not college teams.

every coach eludes to errors in their team's play, not just kelly.

i have no idea what kffl is.

i don't spend much time in sports threads because i think it's mostly a waste of time. and if you don't like my posts, then don't reply to them. statistics just don't support your argument, regardless of where you might live.
 

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i see most of their games, and no i don't think, in general, in the kelly era, penalties have been a major problem, although tonight they were, for whatever reason. when your out manned and playing on the road in front of 95,000 mistakes can happen. them being notre dame and a religious school, referees don't do them any favors, either. and there were a couple crucial calls tonight that were questionable. that said, they don't play to perfection either. no team does, particularly not college teams.

every coach eludes to errors in their team's play, not just kelly.

i have no idea what kffl is.

i don't spend much time in sports threads because i think it's mostly a waste of time. and if you don't like my posts, then don't reply to them. statistics just don't support your argument, regardless of where you might live.
Statistics are really great, but try to put them in 'context', if you will.

I've seen enough ND games over the decades and Kelly's teams are very bad/undisciplined in the untimely silly department at crucial points in games. I've seen way too many 3rd & shorts turn into 3rd & longs over stupid stuff. It's consistent & a pattern.

That you don't/won't see/concede to the thousands of others that have noted these very same glaring errors is lost on you … not me.

Now, when you've seen enough & followed this team as closely as I have over many years, you can definitely put it all into a contextual realm of stupid errors that coaches could/should fix. Kelly doesn't seem to be very good in cutting down on the silly & correctable BS.

Now, if you wanna keep arguin for the sake of it … have at it. I'm done with the dude from Tuscon when I live it week in & week out, here, locally to know better.
 

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Statistics are really great, but try to put them in 'context', if you will.

I've seen enough ND games over the decades and Kelly's teams are very bad/undisciplined in the untimely silly department at crucial points in games. I've seen way too many 3rd & shorts turn into 3rd & longs over stupid stuff. It's consistent & a pattern.

That you don't/won't see/concede to the thousands of others that have noted these very same glaring errors is lost on you … not me.

Now, when you've seen enough & followed this team as closely as I have over many years, you can definitely put it all into a contextual realm of stupid errors that coaches could/should fix. Kelly doesn't seem to be very good in cutting down on the silly & correctable BS.

Now, if you wanna keep arguin for the sake of it … have at it. I'm done with the dude from Tuscon when I live it week in & week out, here, locally to know better.

meh, you are entitled to your opinion, just like everyone else is.

the so called experts were wrong about firing kelly 2 seasons ago, and they are probably still wrong.
 

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i said georgia was the better team, i'm sure what more you want.
I want you to stop being a pussy and admit the refs were letting them play all night, and calling PI on the last play would have been wrong considering the precedent the refs had set throughout the game. Until then, you’re just an excuse making flailing fag.
 

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I want you to stop being a pussy and admit the refs were letting them play all night, and calling PI on the last play would have been wrong considering the precedent the refs had set throughout the game. Until then, you’re just an excuse making flailing fag.

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I want you to stop being a pussy and admit the refs were letting them play all night, and calling PI on the last play would have been wrong considering the precedent the refs had set throughout the game. Until then, you’re just an excuse making flailing fag.

this thread is funny, I have a notre dame saying i'm trolling notre dame fans for not completely blaming Kelly, and you saying i'm a notre dame homer for criticizing the officiating on 2 plays, one that you even agree on. this is exactly why I avoid sports threads.

sorry, I just call'em like I see them. the Georgia defender had his hand on the receiver's shoulder and pulled him down. there was no precedent set for that.
 

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this thread is funny, I have a notre dame saying i'm trolling notre dame fans for not completely blaming Kelly, and you saying i'm a notre dame homer for criticizing the officiating on 2 plays, one that you even agree on. this is exactly why I avoid sports threads.

sorry, I just call'em like I see them.

And the way you see it is retarded.
 

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this thread is funny, I have a notre dame saying i'm trolling notre dame fans for not completely blaming Kelly, and you saying i'm a notre dame homer for criticizing the officiating on 2 plays, one that you even agree on. this is exactly why I avoid sports threads.

sorry, I just call'em like I see them.
:L … you seem to have some real issues, evidently, with comprehension/context.

But, but … let's put the real onus on a couple of potentially blown calls by refs … that's where the real crux of this game lies. Another :L
 

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I'm startin to lean this way.

I'm curious as to what these two plays in question on the refs involved …

I'm assuming 1 was that personal foul on yall's first possession, which was a bad call, but it still gave yall 1st and 10 after the play.

The other was them not calling PI on the 4th down play at the end of the game when they hadn't been calling it all night.
 

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:L … you have some real issues, evidently, with comprehension/context.

But, but … let's put the real onus on a couple of potentially blown calls by refs … that's where the real crux of this game lies. Another :L

apparently you have issues and comprehension problems. I mentioned the penalties on nd being the deciding factor several times. you even stated it your it yourself. i'm just not going to hang the cause for them all on Kelly. i'm sure they work on it in practice, like every major college program does. this isn't high school football. the problem was they went to a silent count because of the 90,000 screaming Georgia fans.

however, a pi not being called on the final ND play of the game, in Georgia territory, is definitely a factor. and many people that saw it agree with me.

now quit wasting my time with your nonsense.
 
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I'm assuming 1 was that personal foul on yall's first possession, which was a bad call, but it still gave yall 1st and 10 after the play.

The other was them not calling PI on the 4th down play at the end of the game when they hadn't been calling it all night.
I thought so.

Yeah … retarded, if that's where ya wanna point the real finger at. There were close calls on PI all nite long on both sides and I thought the refs did a pretty good job of staying out of that fray and letting the kids play football & let their play decide the game.

I didn't really see a PI on that last 4th down play, considering how the refs officiated this aspect most of the nite, and I didn't see how they could call it there. I had no beef with the no-call, but more of a beef with the way Long/Kelly dictated some of the play calling that put Book in some bad situations whereby he went into somewhat of a panic mode. Book did the best he could in a hostile environment.

I've no shame with the way the ND players poured it out on that field last nite. They played hard, made it competitive and were in it at the end with a chance to actually win the damn game. I put more of the onus on a lot of the stupid mistakes in key situations that shot themselves in the foot than on any refs' calls.
 

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apparently you have issues and comprehension problems. I mentioned the penalties on nd being the deciding factor several times. you even stated it your it yourself. i'm just not going to hang the cause for them all on Kelly. i'm sure they work on it in practice, like every major college program does. this isn't high school football. the problem was they went to a silent count because of the 90,000 screaming Georgia fans.

however, a pi not being called on the final play of the game, in Georgia territory, is definitely a factor. and many people that saw it agree with me.

now quit wasting my time with your nonsense.
And I NEVER stated that it was ALL on Kelly's undisciplined team that was the ALL emcompassing reason ND lost … that's my point. It's the constant pattern of silly mistakes that I keep repeating to a door knob that doesn't wanna take into account, evidently.

Nonsense … indeed. Carry on, son.
 

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And I NEVER stated that it was ALL on Kelly's undisciplined team that was the ALL emcompassing reason ND lost … that's my point. It's the constant pattern of silly mistakes that I keep repeating to a door knob that doesn't wanna take into account, evidently.

Nonsense … indeed. Carry on, son.

here, i'll type slower for you.

you're blaming Kelly for the penalties, post 456. sorry, I don't necessarily agree. and I've already shown you nd is not one of the more penalized major college football programs.

and even the announcers saw the pi on the final play.
 

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here, i'll type slower for you.

you're blaming Kelly for the penalties, post 456. sorry, I don't necessarily agree. and I've already shown you nd is not one of the more penalized major college football programs.

and even the announcers saw the pi on the final play.
Can a coach control what refs call?

Can a coach take steps in & help control the minimizing of his players' committing stupid penalties via mental mistakes?

Not rocket science, son.
 
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