Cleveland @ Texas June 17-20

[Duane1952]

I think Bush will be up soon. He's pitching well at Nashville.

 

[Nightcrawler]

Can't believe they actually DFA'd Smyly. They must follow this board.

When I saw it.....

I immediately thought of the rob Ryan “Eff yea” “eff yea” gif.

All smyly did while he was here is walk the bases loaded, turn winnable games into demoralizing blowout losses, exhaust the bullpen every 5th day, give up endless home runs and had a negative attitude about it the whole time.

His tenure compares to Matt Moore and Michael kirkman on the “terrible” rangers pitcher scale. The guy REALLY sucked.

 

[Nightcrawler]

Can't believe they actually DFA'd Smyly. They must follow this board.

The front office seems to be very stubborn about things. I think they viewed smyly as the “last hope” for the Cole hamels trade, but it looks like an absolute certainty that we sent Hamels to the cubs and got literally nothing of value out of it.

 

[saddles]

Because with so many teams tanking “Astros style” this year, it’s going to be a buyers market in July. The guys you trade to good teams won’t bring as much back as they normally would and the guys you receive from spares or bad teams probably won’t cost as many prospects. The league is very top heavy this year. I don’t think I’ve seen so many “bad” teams in the American League all at once before.

The rangers should look for their starters for the next year or two NOW or at least within the next few weeks.

It is not a buyer's market now.

There are usually decent free agents to be had and we have the money to get them. Since there is no rush to get them, nothing is hurt by waiting until November. Also, by November you will have a better idea as to the timetable of pitching prospects.

 

[saddles]

When I saw it.....

I immediately thought of the rob Ryan “Eff yea” “eff yea” gif.

All smyly did while he was here is walk the bases loaded, turn winnable games into demoralizing blowout losses, exhaust the bullpen every 5th day, give up endless home runs and had a negative attitude about it the whole time.

His tenure compares to Matt Moore and Michael kirkman on the “terrible” rangers pitcher scale. The guy REALLY sucked.

The Kirkman situation was bad for a different reason. It took about 10 years to give up on him. He wasn't as bad as Moore and Smyly, they just wouldn't ever give up.

 

[Nightcrawler]

It is not a buyer's market now.

There are usually decent free agents to be had and we have the money to get them. Since there is no rush to get them, nothing is hurt by waiting until November.

It will be. Just wait.

 

[Duane1952]

The Rangers management screwed up by not sending Odor down before he got his 5 years of service time in May.

 

[Nightcrawler]

The Rangers management screwed up by not sending Odor down before he got his 5 years of service time in May.

Doesn’t surprise me in the slightest. They seem to have placed all of their hope in a select group of young players. These players are given the “royal” treatment in regard to playing time, resources, excuses made for them, broadcast pimping, radio promoting....you name it.

Mazara, Guzman, Odor, and gallo can do no wrong in the eyes of the front office. Sadly, only 1 of the 4 deserve the all out treatment.

 

[Duane1952]

Smart baserunning by Elvis.

 

[Duane1952]

Odor batting, inning is over.

 

[saddles]

It will be. Just wait.

Then, it will be in November as well.

 

[Nightcrawler]

Odor batting, inning is over.

Did you expect anything else?

Meanwhile...... the legend of Danny Santana continues to grow.

 

[saddles]

The Rangers management screwed up by not sending Odor down before he got his 5 years of service time in May.

Yes, it is a horrendous mistake. That further weakens my confidence in our front office. It is a mistake that should bot be overlooked.

 

[saddles]

It will be. Just wait.

Looking at the standings there are only 6 or 7 teams playing so badly that you would have to assume that they have no hope for even next year. It could be argued that the other 22 or 23 teams could use a controllable pitcher to help them next season. If the market is for a pitcher to help next year and beyond then I don't think those numbers lend themselves to being described as a buyer's market.

I haven't looked into each teams assets and needs, but I am willing to bet the decent controllable pitchers on those 6 or 7 teams are outnumbered greatly by the needs on those other 22 or 23 teams.

 

[Nightcrawler]

Looking at the standings there are only 6 or 7 teams playing so badly that you would have to assume that they have no hope for even next year. It could be argued that the other 22 or 23 teams could use a controllable pitcher to help them next season. If the market is for a pitcher to help next year and beyond then I don't think those numbers lend themselves to being described as a buyer's market.

I haven't looked into each teams assets and needs, but I am willing to bet the decent controllable pitchers on those 6 or 7 teams are outnumbered greatly by the needs on those other 22 or 23 teams.

You can’t make the assumption that all 22 or 23 of those teams will be buyers in the trade deadline tho. Based on the standings, I predict a lot more sellers than buyers.

 

[saddles]

 

[saddles]

 

[saddles]

You can’t make the assumption that all 22 or 23 of those teams will be buyers in the trade deadline tho. Based on the standings, I predict a lot more sellers than buyers.

Then you can't make the assumption the Rangers should either.

There will be more sellers for expiring contracts at the deadline. The market for controllable pitchers is a different market though. The number of buyers is greater when next year is the reason to buy. Teams like the Rangers have no business in the market for help for this year only. If the Rangers are considered buyers for next year then it is only logical that many other teams would be too.

 

[jta4437]

Playoff quality? Occasionally against mediocre pitching but when they run into better than average pitching they look like the minor league team they are

They're 3rd in the majors in runs.... we have a good lineup outside of catcher and 2B, and 2B would be solid if Santana or Forsythe were there, which they would be if we were actually in the playoffs

 

[jta4437]

Odor, condor, Mazara, and Mathis / ikf have all been bad this year at the plate.

Bad is an exaggeration for Guzman and Mazara, they haven't been good, but I wouldn't call them bad either