Game of Thrones

[Sharkonabicycle]

Good post overall but I got a tiny minor quibble here. The Unsullied didn't go home. They set a course of Missandei's homeland. It's implied Greyworm is venturing off to finish freeing the people of his deceased girlfriend. I thought that was actually a nice little touch they did there. He can't keep his promise the two of them had to live out their lives in peace together but now he will protect her homeland and ensure their peace.

Okay so wtf happened to Greyworm? He's just.. good with everything? That's how I took it. And what happened to the Dothraki (SP?)? I felt like this all wrapped up way too quick.

 

[wildturkey]

Before reading a thing on the finale.... They had 1 hour and 20 minutes to tie all this up.... I think rhey did VERY well.... Two things I didn't care for, but will get over....

1) We need a Nights Watch, why?

And

2) Arya becomes Christopher fuckin Columbus? Really?

I actually liked Arya's ending and felt it made a lot of sense for her. She has always been independent or at the very least, had streaks of independence. Her setting out to do her own thing is totally in character for her. I can't remember if it was brought up early in the show or if I read it somewhere long ago, but I think she was once curious about what was beyond Westeros so it makes sense she'd sail of west of Westeros to go explore. I'm fairly positive I had seen that exact scenario theorized about her ending for a couple of years now too.

 

[juliansteed]

Before reading a thing on the finale.... They had 1 hour and 20 minutes to tie all this up.... I think rhey did VERY well.... Two things I didn't care for, but will get over....

1) We need a Nights Watch, why?

And

2) Arya becomes Christopher fuckin Columbus? Really?

I was wondering the same about the NW. At this point it seems like it would only serve as a punishment. Now that the North is an independent kingdom, are they expect to govern (behead deserters) and fund the NW themselves or do the other 6 kingdoms help out?

Arya going west could be lead to some interesting stories. It's unlikely we'll ever get to see or read them but I'd be interested.

 

[wildturkey]

Okay so wtf happened to Greyworm? He's just.. good with everything? That's how I took it. And what happened to the Dothraki (SP?)? I felt like this all wrapped up way too quick.

@Cowboyinexile addressed some of it in his post. He wasn't really "cool" with it so to speak but he's not one to just go apeshit and have his Unsullied kill everyone because Dany got murdered. Plus, he and the Unsullied have spent the entire time taking orders, not acting on their own. It sort of makes sense that even in that situation, he'd still respect order so to speak and go the route he went. Like from his perspective, Jon betrayed them, no one else did. His side still won but they just needed to find a new leader and then punish Jon. It wouldn't do any good for him to just wild out on everyone right then and there. But once everything got decided, he did bounce. He might not have liked the outcome of what Bran decided, but he decided it wasn't worth continuing to fight, especially in a foreign land of which he and his people have no ties to whatsoever. Now that he is truly free for the first time in his life, he decides to sail to Missandei's homeland and fight for those people instead, something he feels more loyal to.

As for the Dothraki, who knows. The has never given them much of a character at all. Even back in season 1 it was just Khal Drago grunting. They weren't important enough to really care about. Like Cowboy said, in the background it looks like they are kinda mingling into society a bit so there's that at least

 

[DetroitDevil]

... and just like that, Game of Thrones became forgettable.

 

[juliansteed]

You know what I just realized? Bronn won the game. This dude got High Garden and didn't even have to fight. And now he's the Master of Coin and can build all the brothels he wants. Put some respect on this man's game.

Yeah I don't get why he thinks brothels need funding from the Crown. They'd basically be a license to print money once King's Landing is rebuilt and re-populated.

 

[wildturkey]

I was wondering the same about the NW. At this point it seems like it would only serve as a punishment. Now that the North is an independent kingdom, are they expect to govern (behead deserters) and fund the NW themselves or do the other 6 kingdoms help out?

Arya going west could be lead to some interesting stories. It's unlikely we'll ever get to see or read them but I'd be interested.

Well, the NW was kind of just punishment to begin with as far as the people in the story were concerned with the show started. While the original purpose long ago might have been to guard against the WW, but the time this story starts, most of society thinks the Walkers are just a myth anyway. Being sent to the NW was basically just a punishment. They still did drills and scouting missions and all that but no one really thought there was a threat. Then it turned out that WW shit was real.

What's funny is basically Jon abandoned his post as soon as he got there. Instead of rejoining the NW, he dipped out North of the Wall to go live with the Free Folk.

 

[TheRangerDude]

Well, I was right about it being Jon to kill her not Arya. That's about the only thing I was right about all season though.

Really wish they did more overall with the winter story but overall I'm satisfied. More time for development would have been ideal though.

 

[juliansteed]

Thought there was GIANT symbolism in melting the throne and I was like, "The dragon fucking gets it!".... Then he flies off and the asshats name a ruler..... DOH! Listen to the fuckin dragon!!!

Yeah I took it as Drogon knew that the Iron Throne is what caused his mother to crazy which ultimately killed her, so he forgave Jon.

Grey Worm keeping his cool while we waited weeks for all of the other lords to arrive is a bit out of character for him. Maybe the pre-Missandei-dying Grey Worm would do that but not the one we saw the last couple of episodes.

 

[juliansteed]

How did anybody know jon killed Dany?

Well he's a pretty bad liar. Wouldn't even try in order to get Cersei to join the fight against the White Walkers. He's also not very good at keeping secrets.

 

[UVA_Guy81]

Well, the NW was kind of just punishment to begin with as far as the people in the story were concerned with the show started. While the original purpose long ago might have been to guard against the WW, but the time this story starts, most of society thinks the Walkers are just a myth anyway. Being sent to the NW was basically just a punishment. They still did drills and scouting missions and all that but no one really thought there was a threat. Then it turned out that WW shit was real.

What's funny is basically Jon abandoned his post as soon as he got there. Instead of rejoining the NW, he dipped out North of the Wall to go live with the Free Folk.

I was wondering what was going to stop him from going back to Winterfell, other than his honor. Nobody in the North would’ve said anything and the Dothraki and Unsullied were long gone and weren’t going to check on him to make sure he’s still there.
Another thing, it looked like if Jaime and Cersei had just waited it out in the map room for a little bit, they definitely could’ve escaped and gotten out of King’s Landing.
Finally, maybe it’s just me but did anyone else notice Tyrion’s scar wasn’t nearly as noticeable during the scene at the Dragon Pit?

 

[TheRangerDude]

What are the odds that an Arya in the unexplored wilderness spinoff sequel is announced within the next two weeks?

Its already been done:

 

[Mofo]

Veep had a better finale last week.

The writing this season's been atrocious. I'm fine with Daenerys getting killed. But after 7 seasons of her turning victimhood into virtue, a quick 3-episode arc turns her into a power-drunk monster, who's suddenly cool with indiscriminate killing of innocent civilians, r*pe and wanton destruction.

Bran as king makes no sense, since everything established before this season is that the 3-eyed raven doesn't desire or need fame or glory. It's as though the writers hit a wall and just decided that they'd just take a gamble on one of the remaining characters- who all happen to be the most virtuous.

It wasn't as crappy as Sopranos or Dexter for an ending, I guess.

 

[mr.hockey4242]

Since the North is independent and the nights watch basically unnecessary couldn’t Jon just go live in winterfell under the radar?

Sansa loves defying orders and the northern people wouldn’t give a fuck. Feel like he pretty easily could bail on the wall

 

[Duffman]

Since the North is independent and the nights watch basically unnecessary couldn’t Jon just go live in winterfell under the radar?

Sansa loves defying orders and the northern people wouldn’t give a fuck. Feel like he pretty easily could bail on the wall

Well he did bail on the wall. He went North with the Wildlings and Ghost.

 

[juliansteed]

I actually liked Arya's ending and felt it made a lot of sense for her. She has always been independent or at the very least, had streaks of independence. Her setting out to do her own thing is totally in character for her. I can't remember if it was brought up early in the show or if I read it somewhere long ago, but I think she was once curious about what was beyond Westeros so it makes sense she'd sail of west of Westeros to go explore. I'm fairly positive I had seen that exact scenario theorized about her ending for a couple of years now too.

Yeah in Season 6 she told her actress friend in Braavos that she wanted to explore west of Westeros.

 

[juliansteed]

Well, the NW was kind of just punishment to begin with as far as the people in the story were concerned with the show started. While the original purpose long ago might have been to guard against the WW, but the time this story starts, most of society thinks the Walkers are just a myth anyway. Being sent to the NW was basically just a punishment. They still did drills and scouting missions and all that but no one really thought there was a threat. Then it turned out that WW shit was real.

What's funny is basically Jon abandoned his post as soon as he got there. Instead of rejoining the NW, he dipped out North of the Wall to go live with the Free Folk.

Yeah it's always been used as a punishment, at least in the recent past, but it also served a purpose. By the time the White Walkers were forgotten or nobody believed in them, there were hostilities with the Wildlings. Now the White Walkers are gone and there are no more hostilities with the Wildliings. I suppose they might still view the Wildlings as an uncivilized society and would prefer to distance themselves from them.

 

[mr.hockey4242]

Well he did bail on the wall. He went North with the Wildlings and Ghost.

That was left pretty open as to what he was actually doing.

 

[juliansteed]

The Tullys are now the most powerful family in Westeros. Only Edmure has the Tully name but Hoster Tully's grandson is king of the 6 Kingdoms, his granddaughter is queen of the other kingdom, his son is Lord of the Riverlands, and his grandson is Lord of the Vale.

 

[juliansteed]

Why does Bran need a Master of Whisperers?