Mid Major schools should have their own division

[Rolltide94]

Once again . You'd be playing 10 games not 12/13 and you'd be be giving 10 autobids. As stated I'm happy to use last year and hresk it down for you if you wish .

Yeah, like 10 games somehow makes it better.

I gave you a year, break that one down for me. I would let you do last year, but that would make the G5's look much better than they typically do.

An 8-4 team is a 7-3 team with two less games. As for your autobids, there have been multiple 6-6 conference winners...do they magically become 6-4 teams in your scenario. I guess they probably would because your ten game scenario eliminates mostly G5 losses to P5 teams.

 

[Rolltide94]

How bout I just do last year since it's fresh? Lol

Or maybe it's because it's one year that multiple G5's conference champs only had 2 losses...I suppose that happens a lot in scenario village?

 

[rmilia1]

Or maybe it's because it's one year that multiple G5's conference champs only had 2 losses...I suppose that happens a lot in scenario village?

All that matters is conference records man . There will only be 1 ooc game . I've got it figured . Just seeding based on Massey now

 

[Rolltide94]

All that matters is conference records man . There will only be 1 ooc game . I've got it figured . Just seeding based on Massey now

Hey, it's your time, feel free to waste it any way you like.

 

[4down20]

Teams would not be playing 12 games . They'd be playing 10. You'd have 10 league champs and 22 at larges . You'd like have 5-6 unbeatens ( especially at the G5 level ), 7-8 1 loss teams , the rest of the stuff larges would be 2 and 3 loss teams ( same as every other level of football )

No, that's not what would happen as I already explained.

You may claim they'll have less due to the 2 less games played, but guess what - those 2 games you'll be taking away are usually wins, especially for top25 teams - so NOPE, same losses, less wins.

You already said 9 conference games and 1 OOC game. So what's missing? 2 OOC games - the games that basically every top25 team wins.

The losses will be near the same, they will all have 2 less wins. Most likely exactly the same losses because the chances of that 1 OOC game being quality is slim, what's the point?

I wonder if any of you dumbasses ever think these things through. It's obvious you have no clue what would actually happen if such a system came into place.

 

[WizardHawk]

Only 1 OOC game, so ND has to join a conf for sure. It would require massive realignment. 9 game schedules still create massive unbalanced slates for conferences with more than 10 teams. The more teams, the more imbalanced. And yet he wants auto bids for 10 conference winners. And since he's taking away all but 1 OOC game, he's ensuring there is basically no chance that the winners of the G5's will have meat on their resumes.

There are so many flaws in this whole thing, that it's hard to pick just one.

 

[4down20]

Only 1 OOC game, so ND has to join a conf for sure. It would require massive realignment. 9 game schedules still create massive unbalanced slates for conferences with more than 10 teams. The more teams, the more imbalanced. And yet he wants auto bids for 10 conference winners. And since he's taking away all but 1 OOC game, he's ensuring there is basically no chance that the winners of the G5's will have meat on their resumes.

There are so many flaws in this whole thing, that it's hard to pick just one.

And in the end, we all still laugh at Iowa when they lose the first time they play a decent team.

 

[rmilia1]

Last year ( based on final conference records including auto bids prior to league title games and at larges based on Massey )

1. Clemson 9-1 vs 32 Toledo 8-2
16 Miami 9-1 vs 17 USC 8-2
8 Auburn 8-2 vs 25 Boise 8-2
9 UCF 10-0 vs 24. Wazzu 7-3
4 Alabama 9-1 vs 29 Troy 8-2
13 Michigan St 8-2 vs 20 So Carolina 7-3
5 Wisconsin 10-0 vs 28 Fresno State 8-2
12 TCU 8-2 vs 21 Virginia Tech 7-3
2 UGA 9-1 vs 31 App St 8-2
7 Penn St vs 26 Memphis 9-1
3 Oklahoma 9-1 vs 30 SDSU 8-2
6 Ohio St 9-1 vs 27 FAU 8-2
10 ND 9-1 vs 23 USF 8-2
11 Ok St 8-2 vs 22 Stanford 7-3
14 NW 8-2 vs 19 LSU 7-3
15 NC St 8-2 vs 18 Washington 8-2

As stated this factors in all true conference records and likelihood of an ooc win or loss based on actual results

So as you see there are zero 4 or 5 loss teams although the last at large was almost a 4 loss Miss St

 

[rmilia1]

No, that's not what would happen as I already explained.



You already said 9 conference games and 1 OOC game. So what's missing? 2 OOC games - the games that basically every top25 team wins.

The losses will be near the same, they will all have 2 less wins. Most likely exactly the same losses because the chances of that 1 OOC game being quality is slim, what's the point?

I wonder if any of you dumbasses ever think these things through. It's obvious you have no clue what would actually happen if such a system came into place.

You're missing the auto bids and subtracting ccg losses . It's explained above

 

[rmilia1]

So basically you'd he looking at one killer 1st round games and every game thereafter would be stellar . Replacing 30 bowls no one cares about with 31 awesome playoff games featuring much much better matchups . I can do more years if people are interested

 

[rmilia1]

Accidents note is I based my at larges off computer rankings from before CCGs. Obviously a committee nsy have chosen other teams so it is possible a 6-4 team would have been chosen but if they had it would've been St the expense of a team like USF or Mempjis

 

[Hitman Hart]

4 team playoff has been perfect. still gives the regular season that sudden death elimination type of feel, while giving us a great playoff at the end of the year.

i feel bad for the undefeated G5 teams, but college football regular season is special and i feel that something more than a 4 team playoff could screw that up.

 

[NU_FTW]

The argument of the regular season needing to "matter" is a bullshit tired excuse adding 8 or even 16 teams will not diminish it any more than the current format. Window licking bumkins afraid change might dethrone their current run are the only who really oppose it. The rest are just ignorant.

 

[Beengay fudgepackers]

The Mid Major schools should simply play other mid major schools and have their own mid major championship.

A 6 team playoff with all G5 champions and one at large for highest ranked independent that's not N.D.

As a mid major fan, you can go fuck yourself.

 

[Deep Creek]

The argument of the regular season needing to "matter" is a bullshit tired excuse adding 8 or even 16 teams will not diminish it any more than the current format. Window licking bumkins afraid change might dethrone their current run are the only who really oppose it. The rest are just ignorant.

I've seen some rationale that expanding would cause more regular season games to matter. Mainly other conference games would have more bearing on other conferences. But, it would only apply if there are more good quality interconference matchups. Then what is going on in a seemingly meaningless conference game in conference x has an impact on conferency Y's CFP chances.

I'll see if I can dig it up. It was a year or two ago.

 

[WizardHawk]

The argument of the regular season needing to "matter" is a bullshit tired excuse adding 8 or even 16 teams will not diminish it any more than the current format. Window licking bumkins afraid change might dethrone their current run are the only who really oppose it. The rest are just ignorant.

Yeah, because those who actually make these proposals are entirely on board with it right?

No, it is those unable to work things out to their ultimate conclusion that are the minority. Thankfully.

If going to some mega playoff format was actually better for football, we would have done so already. Or you would have credible plan ideas that have been floated around those that make these decisions. We do not. For a reason.

 

[NU_FTW]

Yeah, because those who actually make these proposals are entirely on board with it right?

No, it is those unable to work things out to their ultimate conclusion that are the minority. Thankfully.

If going to some mega playoff format was actually better for football, we would have done so already. Or you would have credible plan ideas that have been floated around those that make these decisions. We do not. For a reason.

We dont because of all the $$ in the bowl season for the advertisers.... thats been the reason for years thanks for playing though

 

[cwalke3408]

The argument of the regular season needing to "matter" is a bullshit tired excuse adding 8 or even 16 teams will not diminish it any more than the current format. Window licking bumkins afraid change might dethrone their current run are the only who really oppose it. The rest are just ignorant.

Or we just like college football the way it is and the way it always been.
Why fix whats not broken?

 

[rmilia1]

Yeah, because those who actually make these proposals are entirely on board with it right?

No, it is those unable to work things out to their ultimate conclusion that are the minority. Thankfully.

If going to some mega playoff format was actually better for football, we would have done so already. Or you would have credible plan ideas that have been floated around those that make these decisions. We do not. For a reason.

So honestly you, as a fan , are happier playing PSU in a bowl game no one will remember in 3 years than forgoing 2 crap ooc games and instead playing NCSU with the winner moving on to play UGA? I simply don't believe that

 

[NU_FTW]

Or we just like college football the way it is and the way it always been.
Why fix whats not broken?

It could be better and have more of it why not?