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He's also only 19. He's going to improve simply by being around better players. This doesn't even account for the own work he will do on his own to improve his game.
 

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Dude, you know the Knicks, Magic will see him as a savior and the Cavs will think he's a selling point for LeBron.

That's his floor.

I think Young came out when he should. Hell he should have stopped playing on New Years. If he went back to school he'd fall like a rock. I'm not saying he won't be good but he got exposed as someone that can be bullied. He had nowhere to go but down.
 

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I'm sorry. I'm just not sold on him. I've seen a ton of OU games this year on TV given that I'm in the DFW area. And I never came away impressed.

He's good but he's playing with trash. And his game does have holes. Doesn't mean he can't fix it. But he shouldn't have to get his ass beat by being triple teamed another season so he can get drafted later than he will this year.
 

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He's good but he's playing with trash. And his game does have holes. Doesn't mean he can't fix it. But he shouldn't have to get his ass beat by being triple teamed another season so he can get drafted later than he will this year.

Yeah makes zero sense unless he wants to lose money
 

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I just need to know if those results means that Boston gets nothing? If so...awwwesome

No, they get swap rights with Sacramento next year, so they'll be right back in the top 5 while probably playing in the Finals. Good move Colangelo...
 

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Not sure Doncic can play the 3 but maybe he can.
Not sure Doncic can play the 3 but maybe he can.


I am not sold on Doncic........He is a great ball handler - I will give him that but He is not great at anything else........He only shot 31% from the 3 last season in Europe......He not a physical guy, AVG under 5 rebounds per game last season and I am not sure he is great at finding the open man as he only AVG 4.5 assists........Finishing off the drive in the paint will be much more difficult in the NBA with the increased size and athleticism...............I understand that NBA scouts know a hell of a lot more about evaluating talent than me - he is getting a ton of love.....Lots of guys have him in the top 3 in the best Europeans ever to be drafted in the NBA........I dont think the kid will be a total bust - but I just think that he will not live up to being a top 1-3 pick.........AS another SG/SF, I think Mikal Bridges will turn out to be a much better player............Guess time will tell.
 

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I'm laughing my ass off at any team that picks Trae Young. That was a kid that should've went back to school a 2nd year.


Agree 1000%.............There are probably 3 other PG's that I like better including Aaron Holiday out of UCLA......I think Holiday will surprise some people despite his size.
 

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Yo.....The Suns have the 16th pick too?

Shit....

If they go Ayton, they could possibly get Gilgeous-Alexander at 16 or trade back and get Brunson, Holiday, Milton....

If they take Doncic, they could go Robert Williams, Jontay Porter, Mitchell Robinson...

They have hella options.

Especially when you remember they have #31 too.
 

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No, they get swap rights with Sacramento next year, so they'll be right back in the top 5 while probably playing in the Finals. Good move Colangelo...
I'm pretty sure the Celtics flat out get the Kings' pick, no pick swap.
 

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Yo.....The Suns have the 16th pick too?

Shit....

If they go Ayton, they could possibly get Gilgeous-Alexander at 16 or trade back and get Brunson, Holiday, Milton....

If they take Doncic, they could go Robert Williams, Jontay Porter, Mitchell Robinson...

They have hella options.

Especially when you remember they have #31 too.
They're gonna have a very nice starting lineup next year if they use the picks and even FA money wisely. I could see them drafting Luka and trying to throw a boatload of cash at a big in free agency. Capela would help but I don't expect the Rockets to let them go unless they can get LeBron and aren't able to keep him. But right now I expect them to take Ayton.
 

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Congrats @Bolts . My prediction skills didn't get you #1 but it was still good enough guarantee you a shot at one of the two best players (Ayton and Doncic) in the draft. That is, unless Vlade and Vivek Kings this up and take someone like Trae Young. But think good thoughts!

And polite golf claps to @Mecca for predicting the Suns would win :clap:
 

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Finally, the Suns have the number 1 over all pick! Welcome to back to AZ Ayton!
 

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Congrats @Bolts . My prediction skills didn't get you #1 but it was still good enough guarantee you a shot at one of the two best players (Ayton and Doncic) in the draft. That is, unless Vlade and Vivek Kings this up and take someone like Trae Young. But think good thoughts!

And polite golf claps to @Mecca for predicting the Suns would win :clap:
Obviously no player is a guaranteed star, but those 2 look like the best in the draft and have been most talked about at the top of draft boards since the season ended. I think Vlade would love Doncic but Ayton might fit a need better. Even though it'd have been great for them to get #1, there's a bit less pressure on them because whichever one the Suns take 1st the Kings can just take the other instead of having to choose one over the other.

But as always, there's still a chance they fuck it up...
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Obviously no player is a guaranteed star, but those 2 look like the best in the draft and have been most talked about at the top of draft boards since the season ended. I think Vlade would love Doncic but Ayton might fit a need better. Even though it'd have been great for them to get #1, there's a bit less pressure on them because whichever one the Suns take 1st the Kings can just take the other instead of having to choose one over the other.

But as always, there's still a chance they fuck it up...
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Trae Young at 2 would be such a Vlade/Ranadive move.

Most were wishing you luck before the lottery. I will wish you luck now. Not out of the woods yet!
 

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I am not sold on Doncic........He is a great ball handler - I will give him that but He is not great at anything else........He only shot 31% from the 3 last season in Europe......He not a physical guy, AVG under 5 rebounds per game last season and I am not sure he is great at finding the open man as he only AVG 4.5 assists........Finishing off the drive in the paint will be much more difficult in the NBA with the increased size and athleticism...............I understand that NBA scouts know a hell of a lot more about evaluating talent than me - he is getting a ton of love.....Lots of guys have him in the top 3 in the best Europeans ever to be drafted in the NBA........I dont think the kid will be a total bust - but I just think that he will not live up to being a top 1-3 pick.........AS another SG/SF, I think Mikal Bridges will turn out to be a much better player............Guess time will tell.

I completely agree with this. I think Doncic will end up being a decent pro, but I think he's more of a 12-15 ppg guy than a 20+ ppg guy like you would expect out of a scoring type top 3 pick. Lack of athleticism will hurt him at the rim and on D at the pro level. I also agree that Mikal Bridges will be a better value guy at 8-10 ... I think he can be at around the same ppg level as Doncic when it's all said and done while being a better "overall" player.
 

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I completely agree with this. I think Doncic will end up being a decent pro, but I think he's more of a 12-15 ppg guy than a 20+ ppg guy like you would expect out of a scoring type top 3 pick. Lack of athleticism will hurt him at the rim and on D at the pro level. I also agree that Mikal Bridges will be a better value guy at 8-10 ... I think he can be at around the same ppg level as Doncic when it's all said and done while being a better "overall" player.

Well,

Doncic is 19 and playing against grown men. Much tougher competition than college basketball.

As for the assist numbers, they don't pad assists stats in Europe like they do here. Kid can pass. That is 100% certain.

The question is whether or not he will be able to defend effectively and whether he will be merely good, or great offensively. I think his floor is probably as a Goran Dragic type player, while his ceiling is somewhere on the Nash/Harden spectrum.

I was very impressed from what I saw.
 

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@Wamu if you could give me 1 of 2 options

1. The Cavs beat Boston...

or

2. The Cavs get swept by Boston but win the lotto

I choose win the lotto- since it would mean LBJ is going nowhere and will retire a Cav.



Is there a 3.?
 
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