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Eh. It's fine. Not really an upgrade over Arrieta but will still be a good rotation with Lester, Darvish, Quintana, Hendricks and Chatwood
Needs better roids.Arrieta was pretty meh last year. That 3.53 ERA was a bit lucky, not to mention he threw only 168.1 innings in 30 starts.
Needs better roids.
He's been pretty meh for 90% of his career imo.
He was pretty awesome from 2014-16, which make up for about half of the innings pitched in his career. I don't think he's been meh for 90% of his career. That being said, I also wouldn't expect 2014-16 Arrieta next season. His command has been pretty spotty the last couple of years, not to mention he's not getting swings outside the strike zone and swinging strikes like he used to.
I don't disagree although I will say the IP was more a function of how Joe used the pen . Pretty much all Cub starters averaged about 6 IP per start . I guess my point is the debate between the 2 is at best even ( if you're Darvish ) on a career front and you probably could've got Jake for less but I may be wrong . In any event I think adding Chatwood at 5 is a jigger upgrade than replacing Jake with DarvishArrieta was pretty meh last year. That 3.53 ERA was a bit lucky, not to mention he threw only 168.1 innings in 30 starts.
Not to be argumentative but I think there are 2 ways of looking at this.They can have him at that price. That's going to be a terrible back end of the contract.
It would be a bitch if they had 7 quality starters. After that, the depth would probably depend on the back end of the bullpen. As a Reds fan, this breaks my heart though I guess it's the way of life.that's a great rotation. Darvish/Quintana/Lester/Hendricks is a great 1-4 and Chatwood makes for a good #5 with considerable upside. Montgomery's a pretty good #6 guy as well, though the depth after that is questionable.
I compare this sort of pitcher to the Steve Stone phenomenon. Off and on, the gods of baseball are just right, and if a pitcher develops a new pitch, catches the league off guard, avoids a troublesome blister problem, maybe adjusts his personal life, loves his contract ... those are stars that don't align often for guys like Arrieta.90% is an exaggeration. But he's had more meh seasons than he hasn't. 2014 he was good, but very limited. That 2015 season stands out in almost every area. Great seasons do, but its extreme.
90% is an exaggeration. But he's had more meh seasons than he hasn't. 2014 he was good, but very limited. That 2015 season stands out in almost every area. Great seasons do, but its extreme.
I think your standards for "meh" might just be far far higher than mine. I don't see Darvish's 2014 as a "meh" level season at all and I think you're expecting too much from starters if you do.
Edit: nevermind, I was reading your comment as if it was about Darvish. That's my mistake.
He was talking about Arrieta.
I acknowledged my mistake in the post you quoted. It seemed... I don't know, I can't think of a good adjective to describe what deleting it entirely seemed like to me. Should I have done that instead?