POLL You're starting an NFL franchise, who you select as your QB?

[cincygrad]

Really well thought out - if I may add one rebuttal to the Burrow thing - Higgins went over 1,000 yards, and Boyd wasn't far off. Uzomah had a career year with Burrow - while Chase certainly was the star of that WR corps, I think if you put weapons around him, he's going to use them to the best of his ability (which is petty good)...but I could see why there would be concern with the Burrow/Chase connection being mentioned, though IMO that would make me more worried about Chase than Burrow considering that Chase came in day-1 and obliterated the league after not playing a full year. I think that connection with Burrow was way more important to him than Burrow, but that's just my thoughts on it.

Solid reasoning throughout, though...nicely done.

There were two kinds of Chase plays last year.... The Chase takes the short throw for 80 yards to the house (against the Ravens and Chiefs) and the Chase makes ridiculous magic along the sideline. While the class clearly belong to Chase.... The second are a function of Burrow. Very few QBs can or will make the types of throws that Burrow executes with Chase.

 

[Dude]

Depends on the system.

 

[Sweetswingingsammysosa]

It's between Allen, Herbert, Burrow and Mahomie.

Mahomie too dumb and too injury prone
Allen is a risk for injury with his running style and his int's are too high this late in his career
Herbert: Average IQ, not much upside left he is what he is right now

My pick is Burrow, has more upside, already better than Allen while being younger and less experienced above average IQ and has the clutch gene. I' taking Burrow for sure.

 

[Edonidd]

I'm taking Burrow 100% of the time with any team and any system. Those other guys all took good teams and made them great. Well actually Herbert hasn't even done that yet. Burrow is the only one I watched just put a game on his back and will the team to victory.

Even the oldest of the big 4 has a good 8-10+ of expected top tier play with no expected drop off. That's like 1-2 complete roster changeovers away. So I don't consider age a factor at all. Honestly I don't see that significant of a difference in ability either. I just personally like Burrows swagger the best.

 

[Dude]

The true mark of a great QB is one that can lead and charge a team collectively. The top 4 on list can certainly do that.

 

[Clayton]

It's between Allen, Herbert, Burrow and Mahomie.

Mahomie too dumb and too injury prone
Allen is a risk for injury with his running style and his int's are too high this late in his career
Herbert: Average IQ, not much upside left he is what he is right now

My pick is Burrow, has more upside, already better than Allen while being younger and less experienced above average IQ and has the clutch gene. I' taking Burrow for sure.

Mahomes and Allen are injury prone and Burrow isn't? Huh?

 

[eaglesnut]

Nope. Mahomes has a career adjusted Adjusted EPA/Play around 300. Nobody is all that close outside of Allen.

You don't get to bring Andy Reid with him.

 

[Fountain City Blues]

You don't get to bring Andy Reid with him.

Mahomes is one of the most intelligent QB's I have ever seen. He would succeed virtually anywhere. 31 teams would very gladly swap their QB.

 

[eaglesnut]

Mahomes is one of the most intelligent QB's I have ever seen. He would succeed virtually anywhere.

You say he's intelligent, but Sweet swinging sammy mother fucking sosa says he's dumb

 

[Cincyfan78]

I mean, if we want to just get down to the nitty gritty of it all...

Joe Burrow took the Bengals to the Super Bowl.

Let that sink in...the Bengals. Super Bowl. Really.

And they were 1 second away from Burrow connecting with Chase to potentially WIN the Super Bowl....

LOL

 

[shopson67]

Nope. Mahomes has a career adjusted Adjusted EPA/Play around 300. Nobody is all that close outside of Allen.

A lot easier to build a team around a rookie contract QB than Mahomes' contract.

 

[shopson67]

That, and at some point Herbert will probably earn more than Mahomes if I had to guess.

But if you're starting your team today.....it's Herbert.

 

[shopson67]

I mean, if we want to just get down to the nitty gritty of it all...

Joe Burrow took the Bengals to the Super Bowl.

Let that sink in...the Bengals. Super Bowl. Really.

And they were 1 second away from Burrow connecting with Chase to potentially WIN the Super Bowl....

LOL

One second away LOL indeed.

 

[shopson67]

Mahomes is one of the most intelligent QB's I have ever seen. He would succeed virtually anywhere. 31 teams would very gladly swap their QB.

Automatically eliminated for sounding like Kermit

 

[Fountain City Blues]

A lot easier to build a team around a rookie contract QB than Mahomes' contract.

That doesn’t make up an EPA gap of .100 per play. Again, that’s roughly the difference of 2021 Rodgers and Kirk Cousins.

 

[Fountain City Blues]

Automatically eliminated for sounding like Kermit

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Kermit is a scholar and intellectual, mind you!

 

[shopson67]

That doesn’t make up an EPA gap of .100 per play. Again, that’s roughly the difference of 2021 Rodgers and Kirk Cousins.

The fact that you mentioned Cousins devalues Rodgers instead of validating your argument, lol.

 

[Fountain City Blues]

The fact that you mentioned Cousins devalues Rodgers instead of validating your argument, lol.

I am giving scale to how big the career adjusted EPA/Play gap is. Rodgers won an MVP. Cousins would struggle to crack a top 10 list.

 

[Sweetswingingsammysosa]

You say he's intelligent, but Sweet swinging sammy mother fucking sosa says he's dumb

His wonderlic was lower than Brett Favre's. Dude isn't very bright.

 

[Sweetswingingsammysosa]

Mahomes and Allen are injury prone and Burrow isn't? Huh?

Due to style of play. Mahomes and Allen's style of play is more conducive of more long term injury concerns than Burrow. Burrow has sustained a horrific knee injury but his style of play isn't indicative of long term injury issues unless the O-line gets worse.