With the Cubs winning a title...

[Howie115]

Are the Detroit Lions now the saddest franchise in professional sports?

I think so.

 

[broncosmitty]

Are the Detroit Lions now the saddest franchise in professional sports?

I think so.

Browns.

We have a lot more sucking to do if we're gonna challenge.

 

[Howie115]

Browns.

We have a lot more sucking to do if we're gonna challenge.

True, but the current version of the Browns hasn't been around that long. The original Browns franchise has won two Super Bowls, even if they had to get out of Cleveland to do so.

 

[broncosmitty]

True, but the current version of the Browns hasn't been around that long. The original Browns franchise has won two Super Bowls, even if they had to get out of Cleveland to do so.

Doing it in Baltimore only makes the Browns worse imo.

Clippers and Lions can't even hang with that.

Can you imagine watching the London Lions hoist The Lombardi?

 

[Thruthefog]

San Antonio Lions

 

[RP-29]

Browns.

We have a lot more sucking to do if we're gonna challenge.

The Lions have won 1 playoff game in 12 tries since 1957.

The Browns have won 7 playoff games in 23 tries since 1957.

 

[jayfan]

Browns.

We have a lot more sucking to do if we're gonna challenge.

Disagree.

In the Superbowl Era (1967 - present), The Browns have qualified for the playoffs 20 times, have won 6 playoff games, and have been to 3 conference championship games, nearly winning two of them.

In the same period of time, the Lions have qualified for the playoffs 12 times, and have won 1 playoff game.

 

[Old Lion]

Enough with all this playoff nonsense.

Just winning in the playoffs is meaningless. Even getting to a SB means nothing. Championship is all that matters.

2nd place is just 1st loser.

 

[broncosmitty]

San Antonio Lions

Party at Fogs!

 

[broncosmitty]

It's not like the Cubs have been the worst team ery year. Just no championships.


Teams like the Mariners and Nationals/Expos have never even made the World Series.

But if people want to say the Lions are a worse off franchise than the Browns, I won't put up any more of a fight.

 

[Wamu]

Browns.

We have a lot more sucking to do if we're gonna challenge.

Your Lions have 1 playoff win ('91) since 1957. Even the pathetic Browns haven't gone that long w/o a playoff win.

 

[broncosmitty]

Your Lions have 1 playoff win ('91) since 1957. Even the pathetic Browns haven't gone that long w/o a playoff win.

True.

There can't be many fanbases who collectively remember where they were, what the weather was like, who they were with, what they ate, etc, for EVERY. SINGLE. PLAYOFF game in their lifetime.

I know I can.

 

[Wamu]

True, but the current version of the Browns hasn't been around that long. The original Browns franchise has won two Super Bowls, even if they had to get out of Cleveland to do so.

That's not correct. If the Ravens were really the Browns then Jim Brown would be their all time leading rusher. When the Colts moved to Indy all of their franchise records went w/ them. That didn't happen to the Browns when Art 'the weasel' Modell moved them.

 

[Beengay fudgepackers]

You have the clippers too. They are pretty good right now, but I doubt they break their championship drought any time soon. I got to think the lions are the Cubs of the NFL. It's sad, but whenever the bears suck, I always find myself saying, at least they aren't the lions.

 

[Wamu]

True.

There can't be many fanbases who collectively remember where they were, what the weather was like, who they were with, what they ate, etc, for EVERY. SINGLE. PLAYOFF game in their lifetime.

I know I can.

As long as Jimmy Haslam owns the Browns they'll be 1 of the biggest jokes in the NFL year in & year out. I'm convinced that Haslam is by far the most incompetent owner in the league.

 

[broncosmitty]

As long as Jimmy Haslam owns the Browns they'll be 1 of the biggest jokes in the NFL year in & year out. I'm convinced that Haslam is by far the most incompetent owner in the league.

I still have faith in Kevin Costner as GM though.

Dude knows who he wants and he's gonna take em. Come hell or high water or pregnant girlfriends.

 

[Mebert]

It is not often you find an argument about who's shit is smellier. Both franchises are steamy dumps, further analysis solves nothing.

 

[Howie115]

Teams like the Mariners and Nationals/Expos have never even made the World Series.

Expos -- 1969 expansion team
Mariners -- 1976 expansion team

Super Bowl began in 1967, and the Lions drought goes back to 1957.

Of pro sports teams that were in existence pre-Super Bowl era, you've pretty much got the Lions having the longest stretch of never making it to the final championship round/game of its sport. Even the sucky Maple Leafs won a Stanley Cup in '67.

 

[Howie115]

LONGEST TITLE DROUGHTS, 4 MAJOR SPORTS:

Baseball -- Cleveland Indians (1948, 68 years)
Football -- Detroit Lions (1957, 59 years)
Basketball -- Sacramento Kings (1951, as Rochester Royals, 65 years)
Hockey -- Toronto Maple Leafs (1966-67, 49 years)

I guess one can make the case for the Kings franchise in basketball being worse than the Lions. Their 1951 title season was also the last season they made it to the final round/game of their sport. If you go by championships only, the Indians are worst, though they've played in 3 World Series since their last title.

 

[broncosmitty]

Expos -- 1969 expansion team
Mariners -- 1976 expansion team

Super Bowl began in 1967, and the Lions drought goes back to 1957.

Of pro sports teams that were in existence pre-Super Bowl era, you've pretty much got the Lions having the longest stretch of never making it to the final championship round/game of its sport. Even the sucky Maple Leafs won a Stanley Cup in '67.

You're putting me in a tough spot Howie.

Defending the Lions has never been my thang.